IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-06-28

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  3. [00:06:02] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  9. [00:25:54] <jibot> edsu is Ed Summers from the Library of Congress <http://www.inkdroid.org>
  10. [00:36:34] <briansuda> drewinthehead_, you are probably not around, but i'll send anyway... the hkit-signup misses my phone number (http://suda.co.uk/contact/)
  11. [00:37:13] <briansuda> Otherwise, very cool. I'd like to see a favlet for this sort of thing... auto-complete from URL
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  35. [03:36:17] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  44. [04:43:59] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  57. [06:05:19] <mfbot> [[to-do-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do-fr&diff=0&oldid=6984 * ChristopheDucamp * (+359) Organisation Communauté Francophone - ajout rubrique volontaires + nomenclatures
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  59. [06:13:40] <mfbot> [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=6985 * ChristopheDucamp * (+505) Beau travail! - Merci Rémi. J'aimerais bien imaginer aussi de construire un blog francophone sur les microformats ?
  60. [06:14:16] <mfbot> [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=6986 * ChristopheDucamp * (-2) Beau travail! -
  61. [06:14:52] <mfbot> [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=6987 * ChristopheDucamp * (-37) Beau travail! -
  62. [06:21:23] <mfbot> [[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=6988 * Tantek * (+4320) reorganization to make it easier to add implementations and implementors
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  64. [06:23:28] <tantek> greetings
  65. [06:24:10] <tantek> I have done a major rewrite/reorganization of the implementations section to hopefully make it easier to add *every* implementation in a flat list, plus *every* company/organization/developer in a flat list as well, with links between them.
  66. [06:24:35] <tantek> I could definitely use some help with adding implementations and implementors to the page: http://microformats.org/wiki/implementations
  67. [06:24:57] <tantek> The page is definitely quite incomplete, and thus I very much do need your help. Thanks!
  68. [06:27:59] <mfbot> [[implementations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=6989 * Tantek * (+53)
  69. [06:35:01] <mfbot> [[implementations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=6990 * Tantek * (+305) Companies / Developers / Organizations -
  70. [06:35:42] <mfbot> [[implementations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=6991 * Tantek * (+1) Andy Hume -
  71. [06:37:03] <mfbot> [[implementations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=6992 * Tantek * (+143) Applications / Plugins / Services / Tools -
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  75. [07:04:16] <mfbot> [[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=6994 * Tantek * (+1146) add Scott, Drew, Assaf, Dan
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  77. [07:14:57] <mfbot> [[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=6995 * Tantek * (+528) add Dreamweaver Microformats Extension
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  82. [08:00:22] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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  94. [09:31:12] <mfbot> [[suggested-reading-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/suggested-reading-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+1641) translation of suggested-reading
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  100. [09:55:13] <mfbot> [[testimonials-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/testimonials-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+5036) testimonials : à relire
  101. [09:57:59] <mfbot> [[introduction-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-fr&diff=0&oldid=6996 * ChristopheDucamp * (+102) Pages en rapport -
  102. [10:00:00] <mfbot> [[podcasts]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=podcasts&diff=0&oldid=6997 * DrewMcLellan * (+359) this year -
  103. [10:04:01] <mfbot> [[implement-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/implement-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+1721) translation of "implement"
  104. [10:04:38] <mfbot> [[implement-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implement-fr&diff=0&oldid=6998 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2) Ainsi vous voulez implémenter les microformats ? -
  105. [10:07:19] <mfbot> [[microformats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=microformats-fr&diff=0&oldid=6999 * ChristopheDucamp * (+43) les principes des microformats -
  106. [10:10:20] <mfbot> [[semantic-xhtml-design-principles-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/semantic-xhtml-design-principles-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+46) #REDIRECT [[SemanticXhtmlDesignPrinciples-fr]]
  107. [10:12:11] <mfbot> [[Template:semantic-xhtml-design-principles-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:semantic-xhtml-design-principles-fr&diff=0&oldid=7000 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1) typo
  108. [10:12:37] <mfbot> [[SemanticXhtmlDesignPrinciples-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/SemanticXhtmlDesignPrinciples-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+39)
  109. [10:15:08] <mfbot> [[SemanticXhtmlDesignPrinciples-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=SemanticXhtmlDesignPrinciples-fr&diff=0&oldid=7001 * ChristopheDucamp * (-27) deleted
  110. [10:15:29] <mfbot> [[SemanticXHTMLDesignPrinciples-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/SemanticXHTMLDesignPrinciples-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+39)
  111. [10:26:50] <mfbot> [[podcasts-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=podcasts-fr&diff=0&oldid=7002 * ChristopheDucamp * (+469) cette année - ajout podcast pau boag -> cette page reste à traduire
  112. [10:28:41] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7003 * ChristopheDucamp * (+95) Add page status : to be synchronized with [[implementations]]
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  114. [11:05:48] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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  116. [13:01:49] <trovster> Anyone up to help with hatom implementation?
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  118. [13:04:15] <jibot> ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
  119. [13:20:28] <drewinthehead> trovster - back in 20mins and will take a look
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  121. [13:21:06] <trovster> Schweet.
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  125. [13:42:12] <drewinthehead> ping: trovster
  126. [13:42:19] <trovster> pong
  127. [13:42:31] <drewinthehead> so, hAtom then?
  128. [13:42:43] <trovster> Yup yup - I have this page -> http://paste.css-standards.org/1229
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  130. [13:44:10] <drewinthehead> specific problems, or just wondering if it's correct?
  131. [13:44:58] <trovster> Well, I'm trying to parse it, (to see what it's all about!) using http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Implementations
  132. [13:45:17] <trovster> First ones don't work, and http://www.lukearno.com/projects/hatom2atom/ gives me an error
  133. [13:46:21] <trovster> hmm, pasting the view through it seems to work, now
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  135. [13:48:25] <drewinthehead> yeah, looks ok
  136. [13:48:59] <drewinthehead> how digestible did you find the hAtom spec?
  137. [13:49:02] <trovster> I've removed the XHTML syntax from the online version, as I'm debugging some code and get XML parse errors, fun
  138. [13:50:19] <trovster> I just looked at the examples. Although, I was told that I couldn't have <p class="date published" title="2006-06-22T12:11:15+01:00">Posted on Thursday, June 22nd, 2006</p> as it needed to be in an <abbr> which isn't ideal
  139. [13:50:49] <trovster> Also, I couldn't find out whether 'entry-content' is required, as I going to replace 'entry-summary' instead, for the archives
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  142. [13:58:23] <jibot> dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
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  145. [14:02:38] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
  146. [14:28:59] <mfbot> [[introduction-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-fr&diff=0&oldid=7004 * ChristopheDucamp * (+91) Articles -
  147. [14:37:11] <mfbot> [[introduction-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-fr&diff=0&oldid=7005 * ChristopheDucamp * (+250)
  148. [14:41:56] <trovster> drewinthehead: Still in 'bout?
  149. [14:42:28] * drewinthehead nods
  150. [14:43:14] <trovster> http://paste.css-standards.org/1248/view is the same code as http://pk2.creation2.com/latest-news/ -- except first is text/html second is application/xhtml+xml -- the first one works on the hatom2atom script, the second gives the error 'Could not parse sourcetree'
  151. [14:43:17] <mfbot> [[naming-conventions-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=naming-conventions-fr&diff=0&oldid=7006 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) Convention de nomenclature des pages du wiki Microformats -
  152. [14:45:53] <drewinthehead> is this with the hosted version of hatom2atom?
  153. [14:46:12] <trovster> Both through that website http://www.lukearno.com/projects/hatom2atom/
  154. [14:47:06] <drewinthehead> hmm ... well there's no mime type requirements in the spec, so could be a quirk of hatom2atom, or that install of it
  155. [14:48:16] <trovster> the other conversions are down
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  157. [14:57:16] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00)
  158. [14:57:53] <mfbot> [[naming-principles]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=naming-principles&diff=0&oldid=7007 * ChristopheDucamp * (+652) structure translated
  159. [14:58:08] <trovster> drewinthehead: Any other tool I can use to convert?
  160. [14:58:41] <drewinthehead> not that I know of
  161. [14:58:47] <trovster> I'm serving the site as HTML4.01 but need to convert to XHTML through tidy to get it into the parser. BUT it doesn't seem to work with a correct mime-type for XHTML
  162. [14:59:35] <drewinthehead> are you tidying it to xhtml? you need to watch tidy too .. sometimes it's too aggressive - it'll strip elements you want sometimes
  163. [15:00:08] <trovster> No, I'm not using tidy at all.
  164. [15:01:04] <mfbot> [[naming-principles]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=naming-principles&diff=0&oldid=7008 * ChristopheDucamp * (+118) Principes de Design XHTML Sémantique -
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  166. [15:16:16] <trovster> drewinthehead: I'm sending HTML4.01Strict. The convertor needs XHTML. It says tidy can be used. But when I give it proper XHTML it complains
  167. [15:16:39] <drewinthehead> so are you using tidy or not?
  168. [15:16:46] <trovster> No. I'm not.
  169. [15:17:20] <drewinthehead> it should be ok with your HTML if it's well-formed
  170. [15:17:57] <trovster> I'm using a small script to change /> to > and xhtml=>html (doctype+content-type) serverside. So I've tried it with XHTML AND HTML.
  171. [15:18:01] <trovster> i get 'Could not parse sourcetree.' with HTML
  172. [15:19:02] <drewinthehead> I'm not sure then. Perhaps ask Luke.
  173. [15:20:26] <trovster> I've downloaded the .xsl
  174. [15:21:22] <drewinthehead> are you on a mac?
  175. [15:21:53] <trovster> No, although I can be.
  176. [15:22:24] <drewinthehead> this lot have some great tools for working with XML on the mac: http://scan.dalo.us/
  177. [15:23:27] <drewinthehead> I used AquaPath a lot for XPath queries, but they have an XSL tool as well which should let you apply that .xsl against your document
  178. [15:23:41] <mfbot> [[naming-principles]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=naming-principles&diff=0&oldid=7009 * ChristopheDucamp * (+851) naming-principles : translation to be reviewed
  179. [15:24:47] <mfbot> [[naming-principles]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=naming-principles&diff=0&oldid=7010 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1) typo
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  181. [15:31:13] <mfbot> [[process-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=process-fr&diff=0&oldid=7011 * ChristopheDucamp * (+151) typo
  182. [15:37:00] <tantek> hmm... looks like naming-principles got translated in-situ rather than on a *-fr page.
  183. [15:37:54] <mfbot> [[naming-principles-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/naming-principles-fr * Tantek * (+8968) move French translation here
  184. [15:38:45] <mfbot> [[naming-principles]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=naming-principles&diff=0&oldid=7012 * Tantek * (-1612) reverted to last English version of page
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  187. [15:49:52] <mfbot> [[include-pattern-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+4731)
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  193. [16:13:13] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  195. [16:14:20] <trovster> Hey tantek.
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  200. [16:24:45] <mfbot> [[hlisting-proposal-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hlisting-proposal-fr&diff=0&oldid=7013 * ChristopheDucamp * (+580) Propsoition hListing - translation in progress
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  203. [16:35:56] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7014 * ChristopheDucamp * (+7250) en cours de restructuration
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  205. [16:44:05] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  207. [16:48:16] <DanC> any hCalendar folks going to the CALSIFY IETF meeting in Montreal?
  208. [16:48:32] <tantek> hey trovster
  209. [16:48:39] <tantek> DanC, what does it cost to attend the meeting?
  210. [16:48:47] <tantek> and are there public minutes taken?
  211. [16:48:48] <DanC> usually around $150 ...
  212. [16:48:52] <DanC> yes, public records
  213. [16:49:08] <tantek> has an agenda been published for the meeting
  214. [16:49:31] <DanC> eek... it's gone up quite a bit... "The registration fee is USD $550.00 if received by the EARLY-BIRD CUT-OFF OF 12:00 ET (16:00 UTC/GMT), FRIDAY, 30 June 2006. "
  215. [16:49:36] <DanC> http://www.ietf.org/meetings/66-reg_form_66.html
  216. [16:50:08] <DanC> ah... "Full-time students with proper ID are eligible to receive a special USD $150 student rate." Maybe I used to get the academic rate.
  217. [16:50:42] <DanC> as to agenda... you aren't following the calsify list all that closely either, huh? ;-)
  218. [16:50:52] * DanC is browsing around http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/ietf-calsify/2006-June/thread.html
  219. [16:51:02] <DanC> there seems to be a new draft, with timezones and recur back in.
  220. [16:51:11] <DanC> 22 Jun http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2445bis-01.txt
  221. [16:52:04] <DanC> "CALSIFY No presentation files, no agenda, no minutes" -- https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=66
  222. [16:52:16] <DanC> (crying out for hCalendar; somebody converted it to .ics format... )
  223. [16:53:02] <DanC> ah... the time info is https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_agenda_html.cgi?meeting_num=66 ; I converted an earlier one to hCalendar
  224. [16:53:22] <DanC> WEDNESDAY, July 12, 2006 0900-1130 Morning Session I
  225. [16:53:51] <DanC> the March 2007 timezone change issue got raised recently. http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/ietf-calsify/2006-June/001003.html
  226. [16:54:03] <tantek> saw that
  227. [16:54:07] <tantek> made me smile
  228. [16:54:59] * tantek believes that VTIMEZONE objects only provide a false sense of precision. And the March 2007 timezone change only proved the point.
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  230. [17:06:10] <jibot> Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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  232. [17:11:48] <mfbot> [[implementations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=7015 * ChristopheDucamp * (+0) typo
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  236. [17:17:10] * pnhChris looks around for drew and notes http://devzone.zend.com/node/view/id/584
  237. [17:17:55] <deanero> hi all.
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  239. [17:18:08] <deanero> i'm looking for info on music related microformats
  240. [17:18:30] <KevinMarks> to solve what problem?
  241. [17:18:34] <deanero> particularly for track listings artists and the like if they exist or are being developed
  242. [17:18:49] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7016 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1100) Page synchronized with [[implementations]
  243. [17:19:01] <KevinMarks> media-info is being developed
  244. [17:19:34] <KevinMarks> http://microformats.org/wiki/media-info-examples
  245. [17:20:58] <deanero> i develop for a larger independent record label and i oodles of tracks and artists that i'd like to present in a systemized way
  246. [17:21:03] <deanero> thanks, i'll look
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  249. [17:21:36] <mfbot> [[to-do-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do-fr&diff=0&oldid=7017 * ChristopheDucamp * (-14) Nomenclatures - copyedit
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  255. [17:37:02] <DanC> the .vcf to hcard conversion hasn't been implemented yet, has it?
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  257. [17:38:37] <kingryan> not that I know of, DanC
  258. [17:39:07] <mfbot> [[to-do-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do-fr&diff=0&oldid=7018 * ChristopheDucamp * (+811) Page restructurée et mise à jour
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  260. [17:40:05] <tantek_> DanC, first we need a "nice looking" hCard template
  261. [17:40:43] <DanC> well, maybe I can outsource that, using kid templates
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  263. [17:46:46] <chimprawk> hey folks - i've tried twice in two days to subscribe to the microformats list and not recieved anything back from mailman
  264. [17:46:57] <kingryan> which list?
  265. [17:46:58] <chimprawk> think something might be up - the list is open
  266. [17:47:30] <chimprawk> one sec
  267. [17:47:39] <kingryan> 'cause the dev list is not open
  268. [17:47:46] <kingryan> despite appearences
  269. [17:47:59] <chimprawk> microformats-discuss
  270. [17:48:29] <chimprawk> tried to sub twice from the web interface, and once via mailman commands
  271. [17:48:31] <chimprawk> no love
  272. [17:48:53] <kingryan> what's your email address?
  273. [17:49:00] <chimprawk> fred@metalab.unc.edu
  274. [17:49:04] <deanero> i was able to just a few minutes ago...
  275. [17:49:49] <deanero> join, that is
  276. [17:50:13] <kingryan> I just added you, chimprawk- you should get a confirmation soon
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  279. [17:53:39] <chimprawk> kingryan - think we may have found the problem - i'm not getting these messages. i'll take a look at my mailserver and see whats up. they are coming from microformats.org correct?
  280. [17:53:47] <kingryan> yes
  281. [17:55:19] <deanero> i have an hcard question...
  282. [17:56:18] <deanero> if i set up my hcard as a dl, does it mungle things up to things like this:
  283. [17:56:32] <deanero> <dt class="tel type">Work</dt>
  284. [17:56:40] <kingryan> yes
  285. [17:56:46] <deanero> nuts
  286. [17:56:47] <kingryan> I can see where this is going :D
  287. [17:57:01] <kingryan> you need the type and value of the tel to be inside the .tel
  288. [17:57:14] <kingryan> definition lists are kinda annoying like that
  289. [17:57:27] <kingryan> but you can get the same stylistic effect with other constructs
  290. [17:57:31] <tantek_> don't use a screwdriver to hammer a nail
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  293. [17:57:52] <deanero> how about a rock? :)
  294. [17:58:21] <kingryan> I prefer a wet noodle
  295. [17:58:39] <chimprawk> kingryan - got the problem. microformats.org mailserver isn't using fully qualified host name in the helo (using microformats instead of microformats.org). The mailserver is rejecting as a result. Thx for your help.
  296. [17:58:40] <deanero> or a meatball
  297. [17:58:53] <kingryan> thanks chimprawk
  298. [17:58:57] <kingryan> I'll look into that
  299. [18:00:06] <kingryan> ah, its an easy fix
  300. [18:00:16] <deanero> so i oughtn't be using a dl, i gather?
  301. [18:00:55] <kingryan> probably not
  302. [18:01:46] <kingryan> chimprawk- the hostname should be right now, try signing up again
  303. [18:01:58] <chimprawk> kingryan - will do
  304. [18:02:41] <chimprawk> success.
  305. [18:03:04] <chimprawk> well, that was easy. thanks for your help.
  306. [18:03:17] <kingryan> np, thanks for the debugging :D
  307. [18:03:24] <chimprawk> my pleasure.
  308. [18:05:14] <mfbot> [[resume-examples-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/resume-examples-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+32610) translation in progress
  309. [18:07:14] <deanero> would something like this be unenlightened?
  310. [18:07:17] <deanero> <dt>Work Phone</dt>
  311. [18:07:17] <deanero> <dd class="tel"><span class="type" title="work"></span><span class="val">(206)441-8441</span></dd>
  312. [18:07:40] <mfbot> [[resume-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=resume-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=7019 * ChristopheDucamp * (+16) Experiences en microfomatage -
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  314. [18:08:06] <kingryan> @title only applies to abbr tags
  315. [18:10:02] <kingryan> and, deanero, hidden data is sub-optimal
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  317. [18:12:46] <deanero> yeah. i was making one last grasp, i guess.
  318. [18:15:38] <dglazkov> http://web.uwaterloo.ca/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
  319. [18:16:14] <KevinMarks> is there a hCard field for date of birth?
  320. [18:18:30] <tantek> Kevinmarks, check the back of your microformats.org one year anniversary t-shirt :D
  321. [18:19:06] <KevinMarks> aha
  322. [18:19:09] <KevinMarks> bday
  323. [18:19:31] <kingryan> and bday can be a date or datetime (as I learned the other day)
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  325. [18:25:10] <KevinMarks> if you are a serious astrology fan?
  326. [18:25:25] <kingryan> me?
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  329. [18:43:37] <mfbot> [[existing-classes-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/existing-classes-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+10627) translation to be reviewed
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  331. [18:45:17] <jibot> xtof is Christophe Ducamp you could find me on http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/Xtof/HomePage
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  336. [18:48:26] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
  337. [18:51:36] * DanC commits v1.1 of an ics to hcard mapping...
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  339. [18:52:43] <kingryan> nice DanC
  340. [18:52:47] <kingryan> w3c cvs?
  341. [18:52:52] <kingryan> or mercurial somewhere?
  342. [18:53:03] <DanC> well, I was about to commit to w3ccvs...
  343. [18:54:05] <DanC> http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/vcardin.py v 1.1 2006/06/28 18:53:38
  344. [18:54:22] <DanC> uses kid and http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icslex.py
  345. [18:55:53] <mfbot> [[rel-design-pattern-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-design-pattern-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+1808)
  346. [18:56:13] <DanC> it seems to work for hcard test #1 ... now to test that...
  347. [18:58:14] <mfbot> [[to-do-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do-fr&diff=0&oldid=7020 * ChristopheDucamp * (-31) Design Patterns -
  348. [19:00:52] * DanC checks in the kid template... http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/contacts.kid
  349. [19:01:41] <DanC> oops! I'm late. hasta!
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  351. [19:04:31] <mfbot> [[introduction-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-fr&diff=0&oldid=7021 * ChristopheDucamp * (+36) Evolution du Web Design - typo
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  353. [19:12:41] * drewinthehead points to http://devzone.zend.com/node/view/id/584
  354. [19:18:32] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=7022 * ChristopheDucamp * (+14) Exemples -
  355. [19:19:23] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=7023 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) Discussions Exploratoires -
  356. [19:19:42] <kingryan> nice drewinthehead
  357. [19:20:25] <drewinthehead> I was paraphrased, but not misquoted. I think it came out ok
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  359. [19:37:36] <briansuda> me read the article earlier drewinthehead, i think it went very well
  360. [19:37:50] * briansuda read the article earlier drewinthehead, i think it went very well
  361. [19:37:55] <mfbot> [[wiki-formats-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/wiki-formats-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+13352) translation in progress
  362. [19:40:33] <drewinthehead> thanks briansuda
  363. [19:41:15] <briansuda> i think the word hCard was in just about every answer :)
  364. [19:42:48] <drewinthehead> probably is :)
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  366. [19:44:04] <briansuda> drewinthehead, where abouts in the UK are you based?
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  368. [19:48:04] <drewinthehead> i'm in Maidenhead, Berks
  369. [19:48:35] <jibot> Hwin is horseygurl, trying to go undercover.
  370. [19:49:19] <briansuda> i might be heading over to Euro OSCon in September and maybe touring around the UK before/after, i'd like to meetup sometime...
  371. [19:49:51] <drewinthehead> that'd be great
  372. [19:51:18] <drewinthehead> let me know when you have your plans together
  373. [19:51:51] * briansuda just found this about himself! http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/euos2006/view/e_sess/9508
  374. [19:52:46] <briansuda> anyone else going to EuroOSCON06?
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  376. [19:57:23] <tantek> Drew, definitely add http://devzone.zend.com/node/view/id/584 to the interviews page
  377. [19:58:05] <tantek> I mean press page
  378. [19:58:07] <tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/press
  379. [20:01:20] <tantek> excellent interview BTW
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  381. [20:05:16] <mfbot> [[press]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press&diff=0&oldid=7024 * DrewMcLellan * (+133) June -
  382. [20:05:27] <drewinthehead> done :)
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  389. [20:13:53] <mfbot> [[presentations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations&diff=0&oldid=7025 * Brian * (+144) Euro OS Con presentation
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  396. [20:50:28] * DanC tunes in for office hours
  397. [20:50:44] <DanC> hmm... testing this vcardin.py conversion to hcard, I'm getting an extra ; on the N field
  398. [20:50:51] <DanC> when I run x2v
  399. [20:51:06] <mfbot> [[wiki-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=wiki-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7027 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2) phpwiki -
  400. [20:52:46] * briansuda thought i fixed the extra
  401. [20:52:49] <briansuda> ';'
  402. [20:53:27] <mfbot> [[wiki-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=wiki-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7028 * ChristopheDucamp * (+83) phpwiki -
  403. [20:54:12] <DanC> it's wierd... I can run the tests, and they pass...
  404. [20:54:36] <DanC> i.e. bin/test-xsltproc.pl reports happiness...
  405. [20:54:44] <DanC> but when I try to use x2v to test my code, I get...
  406. [20:54:50] <briansuda> then maybe the tests are wrong?
  407. [20:55:05] <DanC> -N;CHARSET=UTF-8:King;Ryan;;;;
  408. [20:55:05] <DanC> +N;CHARSET=UTF-8:King;Ryan;;;
  409. [20:55:43] <DanC> hcard/03-implied-n.vcf is the relevant test
  410. [20:56:10] <drewinthehead> what's half a colon between friends?
  411. [20:56:16] <briansuda> ok, maybe i only fixed it on a few cases... there is about 3-4 different places N is computed, i might have missed one.
  412. [20:56:43] <mfbot> [[wiki-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=wiki-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7029 * ChristopheDucamp * (+108) Other Resources -
  413. [20:56:46] <kingryan> I think that test is right
  414. [20:57:03] <kingryan> if not, its drewinthehead's fault
  415. [20:57:04] * DanC can't figure out what's going on
  416. [20:57:14] <DanC> ~/mf-hg/tests$ xsltproc --novalid ../x2v/xhtml2vcard.xsl hcard/03-implied-n.html
  417. [20:57:26] <briansuda> well, you have fname, lname, mname, prefix, suffix, so you'd need 4 ';'s and DanC is getting 5
  418. [20:57:29] <DanC> ^ when I run that, I get N;CHARSET=UTF-8:King;Ryan;;;;
  419. [20:58:05] <DanC> the test data has 5: N;CHARSET=UTF-8:King;Ryan;;;;
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  421. [20:58:31] * briansuda is investivating
  422. [20:58:39] <kingryan> right, unless you have a ; at the end
  423. [20:58:50] <kingryan> all the examples in that test have 5 ;'s
  424. [21:00:24] <DanC> 3-4 different places? hmm... not just n-prop?
  425. [21:00:39] <mfbot> [[wiki-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=wiki-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7030 * ChristopheDucamp * (+52) Extra-wiki Formatting Conventions -
  426. [21:01:13] <briansuda> no, because N is set if FN and ORG are equal, n-prop, and implied-n
  427. [21:01:39] <DanC> 69d83c776721: <xsl:text>&#x0A;N:;;;;;</xsl:text>
  428. [21:01:40] <mfbot> [[wiki-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=wiki-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7031 * ChristopheDucamp * (+60) Conventions de Mise en Page Extra-Wikis - broken links
  429. [21:02:23] <DanC> 43:69d83c776721 21 Jun updated the XSLTs to pass more tests, forked off a datetime.xsl to better test ISO dates and general clean-up
  430. [21:03:01] <mfbot> [[wiki-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=wiki-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7032 * ChristopheDucamp * (+17) Other Standards Efforts -
  431. [21:04:31] * DanC finds one example in the spec with 4 ;'s N:Public;John;Quinlan;Mr.;Esq.
  432. [21:04:38] <DanC> in http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/rfc2426#sec3.1.2
  433. [21:05:14] <DanC> n-value = 0*4(text-value *("," text-value) ";")
  434. [21:05:14] <DanC> text-value *("," text-value)
  435. [21:05:18] <DanC> definitely 4 ;'s
  436. [21:06:46] <briansuda> ok, i'll try to correct this
  437. [21:08:26] <DanC> what's this doing, brian? (substring(substring-after(normalize-space(@title), " "), 2,1) = ".")
  438. [21:09:02] <briansuda> it is looking for a single letter before a ., eg B. Suda
  439. [21:09:16] <briansuda> it is part of the fn->n optimization
  440. [21:10:28] <DanC> ew.
  441. [21:10:42] <briansuda> it gets pretty hariy!
  442. [21:11:48] <DanC> there seems to be special code for abbr/title in the n-optimization stuff... why not just compute the FN property value (looking in all the wierd places) and then to implied-n using that value?
  443. [21:13:15] <briansuda> that would certainly work!
  444. [21:13:29] <briansuda> i know you refactored the FN==ORG that way
  445. [21:14:29] * DanC tightens blinders; gets back to ;'s and vcard->hcard...
  446. [21:14:58] <briansuda> i'll clean-up the extra ';' issue in the next few days
  447. [21:15:36] <DanC> well, I'm prolly going to hack it locally for now so I can test my vcard->hcard thingy...
  448. [21:15:55] <DanC> I'm still confused about why it's inconsistent.
  449. [21:16:06] <DanC> i.e. why I'm sometimes gettting 4
  450. [21:16:22] <briansuda> why X2V is incosistant?
  451. [21:16:33] <DanC> well, something is inconsistent; I can't tell what.
  452. [21:17:03] <briansuda> probably because the N is being outputted in several different places, and i might have corrected one or two of them
  453. [21:17:26] <briansuda> ADR will/might have the same issue, or that might be the one i fixed?
  454. [21:17:56] <DanC> what's wierd is that the tests pass (using the tip in hg). But when I try to reuse x2v to check my v2x, I'm losing
  455. [21:18:23] <mfbot> [[wiki-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=wiki-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7033 * ChristopheDucamp * (+457) Summary -
  456. [21:18:52] <briansuda> i did fixed some of the ';'s in http://hg.microformats.org/x2v?cs=56f48fd3aef7 maybe they got lost somewhere or were never migrated from that BETA file?
  457. [21:18:54] <kingryan> hey, v2x
  458. [21:18:59] <mfbot> [[wiki-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=wiki-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7034 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1) wiki formats -
  459. [21:19:04] <kingryan> heh, even
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  461. [21:22:31] <DanC> aha! indeed; my v2x spells out the stuff longhand, and x2v produces a different number of ;'s when it's doing implied n
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  464. [21:27:28] <DanC> Passed: 50
  465. [21:27:28] <DanC> Failed: 29
  466. [21:27:28] <DanC> ew.
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  468. [21:30:26] <DanC> is there a way to run just the hcard tests? I seem to be failing a lot of hcalendar tests for unrelated reasons
  469. [21:30:42] <DanC> FAIL hcard/23-abbr-title-everything
  470. [21:30:45] <kingryan> bin/test-xsltproc.pl hcard
  471. [21:30:52] <DanC> ^known problem, yes?
  472. [21:30:56] <kingryan> yes
  473. [21:31:12] <DanC> Passed: 24
  474. [21:31:13] <DanC> Failed: 11
  475. [21:31:50] <mfbot> [[wiki-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=wiki-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7035 * ChristopheDucamp * (+405) straw proposals -
  476. [21:31:54] <DanC> FAIL hcard/33-area <- also known?
  477. [21:33:51] <kingryan> I didn' - looks like brian just changed it: http://hg.microformats.org/tests?fd=36b44af04408;file=hcard/33-area.vcf
  478. [21:34:14] <kingryan> he may not have fixed x2v to work with it yet, though
  479. [21:34:42] <kingryan> back to #23, though - it should be ok, its #24 that should fail
  480. [21:35:39] <DanC> 23 fails thusly:
  481. [21:35:39] <DanC> -ADR;CHARSET=UTF-8:Box 1234;Suite 100;123 Fake Street;San Francisco;California;12345-6789;United States of America;TODO add the type to ADR
  482. [21:35:39] <DanC> +ADR;CHARSET=UTF-8:Box 1234;Suite 100;123 Fake Street;San Francisco;California;12345-6789;United States of America
  483. [21:35:47] <tantek> yes, the AREA detail is fairly new to hcard-parsing
  484. [21:36:02] <tantek> but came from a real-world example that was quite interesting - an org chart
  485. [21:36:16] <kingryan> danc: you need to update your tests
  486. [21:36:20] <kingryan> pull from hg
  487. [21:36:30] <DanC> really? just in the last few minutes? ok...
  488. [21:36:47] <DanC> no changes found
  489. [21:36:59] <DanC> oops; I had neglected to update...
  490. [21:37:20] <briansuda> I only fail on 2, 35 and 24
  491. [21:38:11] * DanC considers enhancing the test report to list the failed cases in the summary
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  493. [21:40:30] <drewinthehead> I fail on 21 at the moment, but only slightly
  494. [21:40:46] <DanC> you don't fail hcard/33-area , briansuda ?
  495. [21:41:10] <briansuda> nope. I had to make changes to the TEST files
  496. [21:41:29] <DanC> have you pushed that change?
  497. [21:41:31] <briansuda> have also commited newer X2V code last week... pull/update that
  498. [21:41:53] <briansuda> yes, http://hg.microformats.org/tests?cs=68522695ecc0
  499. [21:42:03] <DanC> for x2v, I see 43:69d83c776721 Jun 21 as the tip
  500. [21:42:11] <mfbot> [[presentations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7036 * ChristopheDucamp * (+374) 2006 -
  501. [21:42:53] <DanC> - system("xsltproc $standalone --stringparam Source 'http://example.com/' ../x2v/$xslt_name $html_name | bin/normalize.pl > /tmp/x2v_test_2.ics");
  502. [21:42:53] <DanC> + system("xsltproc $standalone --stringparam Source 'http://example.com/' ~/localhost/projects/X2V/$xslt_name $html_name | bin/normalize.pl > /tmp/x2v_test_2.ics");
  503. [21:43:00] <DanC> ^ I wonder if you meant to commit that
  504. [21:43:46] <briansuda> i change that path for myself, and always forget to switch it back
  505. [21:44:27] <briansuda> DanC, that is my version ( 43:69d83c776721) as well
  506. [21:44:50] * DanC is caught up now, I think...
  507. [21:49:02] <mfbot> [[press-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press-fr&diff=0&oldid=7037 * ChristopheDucamp * (+142) 2006 -
  508. [21:52:38] <DanC> Passed: 32
  509. [21:52:38] <DanC> Failed: 3: hcard/03-implied-n hcard/24-multiple-value-concat hcard/35-include-pattern
  510. [21:53:19] <mfbot> [[hresume-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-fr&diff=0&oldid=7038 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1) Schéma -
  511. [21:53:49] <briansuda> FAILED #3?
  512. [21:53:54] <briansuda> what was the DIFF>
  513. [21:53:55] <kingryan> briansuda: if you want, we can make that path configurable at the command line
  514. [21:54:16] <briansuda> kingryan, it is up to you?
  515. [21:54:29] <kingryan> huh?
  516. [21:54:59] <briansuda> up to you if you want to make it configurable, you wrote the .sh script
  517. [21:55:17] <kingryan> I can make it configurable
  518. [21:55:35] <kingryan> so i'd be like bin/test-xsltproc.pl --x2v=/path/to
  519. [21:55:40] <kingryan> but defaults to the current setup
  520. [21:55:47] <briansuda> ok, then i'll leave it up to you, if you have time and can update it that would be great
  521. [21:56:28] <DanC> -N;CHARSET=UTF-8:King;Ryan;;;;
  522. [21:56:28] <DanC> +N;CHARSET=UTF-8:King;Ryan;;;
  523. [21:57:13] <briansuda> OK, so that is with the ';'s that will fix itself when i update the XSLT
  524. [21:57:37] <DanC> I fixed the ;s in the test files, and made some quick fixes to xhtml2vcard.xsl that works in all cases but 03-implied-n
  525. [21:58:22] <briansuda> ok, if you get it working, comitt and i'll pull/update, thanks
  526. [21:58:44] * DanC thought he pushed, but can't see it at http://hg.microformats.org/tests?cl=0
  527. [21:59:08] <DanC> ah. http://hg.microformats.org/tests?cs=6a92b5a185c0
  528. [21:59:34] <DanC> and http://hg.microformats.org/x2v?cs=4c09da3b855b
  529. [22:01:05] <mfbot> [[hresume-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-fr&diff=0&oldid=7039 * ChristopheDucamp * (+39)
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  531. [22:02:37] <DanC> hmm... you have to normalize.pl _both_ the expected results and the actual results? we don't store the expected results in normalized form? what a pain.
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  533. [22:15:43] <DanC> ah... problem with test 3 was in the data
  534. [22:16:20] * DanC pushes 253:fb59ac15a716
  535. [22:16:41] <DanC> bleah...
  536. [22:16:42] <DanC> -N:;;;;
  537. [22:16:42] <DanC> +N;CHARSET=UTF-8:;;;;
  538. [22:22:11] <DanC> it would be nice if x2v would only spit out CHARSET=UTF-8 if non-ascii characters are used
  539. [22:24:20] <briansuda> the CHARSET is defined by the meta tag... (i think)
  540. [22:24:37] <briansuda> for the empty N, it probably can be omitted
  541. [22:25:26] <briansuda> I looked originally to see if XSLT has some function to get the Numberic value of a letter, but no luck, otherwise you could detect for letters greater than 256
  542. [22:28:37] <DanC> you can use string-translate to convert all ascii characters to '' and see if anything is left. ugly, but works.
  543. [22:29:14] <DanC> hm... 15-honorific-additional-single ...
  544. [22:29:14] <DanC> -FN;CHARSET=UTF-8:Mr. John Maurice Doe, Ph.D.
  545. [22:29:21] <DanC> +FN;CHARSET=UTF-8:Mr. John Maurice Doe\, Ph.D.
  546. [22:29:41] <briansuda> yes, that should be escaped, Ryan had an email to the Dev list about that and i responded
  547. [22:30:19] <DanC> ~/mf-hg/tests$ ./bin/test-xsltproc.pl -s hcard/15-honorific-additional-single.html
  548. [22:30:20] <DanC> Passed: 0
  549. [22:30:20] <DanC> Failed: 0:
  550. [22:30:23] <DanC> how do I run one test?
  551. [22:30:33] <briansuda> no .html
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  553. [22:30:38] <jibot> Remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
  554. [22:30:59] * briansuda gotta run, quitin' time
  555. [22:31:02] * briansuda (n=briansud@h-68-166-252-239.chcgilgm.covad.net) Quit ()
  556. [22:31:04] <DanC> hasta
  557. [22:31:38] <DanC> PHOTO;ENCODING=b;TYPE=png ... hmm.. type=png?
  558. [22:32:00] * DanC checks http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/rfc2426#sec3.1.4
  559. [22:32:12] <tantek> should be content-type AFAIk
  560. [22:32:29] <DanC> "The TYPE parameter values MUST
  561. [22:32:29] <DanC> be one of the IANA registered image formats or a non-standard image
  562. [22:32:29] <DanC> format."
  563. [22:32:33] <DanC> well, that sure narrows it down.
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  565. [22:34:27] <alexandermuse> Tantek: Our hResume plugin pings http://rpc.technorati.com/rpc/ping when you update your resume. Will this automatically ping Pingerati?
  566. [22:34:51] <alexandermuse> Or, should we bake in a specific Pingerati URI?
  567. [22:40:37] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@015-891-417.area5.spcsdns.net) Quit ()
  568. [22:45:19] <deanero> sorry to rehash my earlier(est) question, but beyond the beginnings of the media mf, has anyone worked on anything that be usable for audio metadata?
  569. [22:45:38] <deanero> more along the lines of track, artist, album title type of information
  570. [22:45:41] * drewinthehead is now known as drewinthebed
  571. [22:46:06] <deanero> isrc, upc and those sorts of things as well
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  573. [22:47:11] <deanero> p-line, c-line, publisher, track length, even lyrics
  574. [22:47:24] <deanero> i've got loads and loads of metadata
  575. [22:54:41] <DanC> -PHOTO;ENCODING=b;TYPE=png:
  576. [22:54:50] <DanC> +PHOTO;VALUE=uri:data:image/png
  577. [22:54:57] * DanC is not counting that as a bug...
  578. [23:10:51] <DanC> well, it works a little bit. http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/vcardin.py
  579. [23:20:58] <mfbot> [[hcard-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=7040 * Tantek * (+100) added ICAO MRTD format to informal references
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  583. [23:43:51] <mfbot> [[wiki-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=wiki-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7042 * ChristopheDucamp * (+212) ProWiki -
  584. [23:44:27] <mfbot> [[wiki-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=wiki-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7043 * ChristopheDucamp * (-4) ProWiki -
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  586. [23:56:56] * bear is now known as bear_afk
  587. [23:59:32] <deanero> i'm having trouble creating a wiki account- i keep being told that i'm not specifying a valid user name
  588. [23:59:42] <deanero> ?
  589. [23:59:52] <pnhChris> needs to be a wiki word

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