IRC Log for #microformats on 2005-11-17

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  74. [03:11:51] <jibot> lgonze is Lucas Gonze and blogs at http://www.gonze.com/
  75. [03:15:01] <lgonze> http://pastebin.bafserv.com/1945
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  77. [03:15:32] <lgonze> that pastebin stuff has two different syntaxes to express the same meaning. I'm trying to decide between them or find a better alternative.
  78. [03:16:18] <lgonze> the background info for this question is that microformats should generally be unneccessary unless you really can't do it with plain old HTML, so I'm trying to avoid even writing a microformat.
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  91. [05:22:27] <lgonze> does it make sense to replicate the content resolver features of xspf in a microformat, or does that go beyond the purposeless-purposefullness restriction?
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  93. [05:23:52] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  105. [08:17:37] <jibot> factoryjoe is Chris Messina
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  108. [09:37:37] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  111. [10:19:58] <jibot> AndyHume is Andrew D. Hume and blogs at http://thedredge.org/ and has a wonderful use of hCards for commenters (see http://thedredge.org/2005/06/using-hcards-in-your-blog/ for details)
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  113. [10:37:28] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  119. [12:15:01] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  127. [15:01:11] <jibot> AndyHume is Andrew D. Hume and blogs at http://thedredge.org/ and has a wonderful use of hCards for commenters (see http://thedredge.org/2005/06/using-hcards-in-your-blog/ for details)
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  134. [17:10:43] <jibot> dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com)
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  138. [17:27:11] <jibot> factoryjoe is Chris Messina
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  140. [17:42:07] <jibot> AndyHume is Andrew D. Hume and blogs at http://thedredge.org/ and has a wonderful use of hCards for commenters (see http://thedredge.org/2005/06/using-hcards-in-your-blog/ for details)
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  146. [18:27:15] <jibot> hober is Edward O'Connor and works for EVDB on http://eventful.com/
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  152. [18:41:10] <neuro`> good evening
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  158. [18:53:57] <jibot> RobertBachmann is in Austria
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  161. [19:44:00] <mfbot> [[rest/opacity]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/opacity&diff=0&oldid=2880 * DrErnie * (+578) The Bottom Line -
  162. [19:44:31] <mfbot> [[rest/opacity]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/opacity&diff=0&oldid=2881 * DrErnie * (+73) Summary by Jon Hanna -
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  168. [20:58:34] <jibot> factoryjoe is Chris Messina
  169. [21:36:48] <lgonze> ping
  170. [21:38:29] <RobertBachmann> pong
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  174. [22:59:10] <lgonze> issue to consider:
  175. [22:59:37] <lgonze> the common pattern of having multiple independent alternatives from which to choose one
  176. [23:00:10] <lgonze> Media RSS has multiple source URLs for the same podcast or videoblog
  177. [23:00:37] <lgonze> SMIL has a switch statement to allow you to pick the source depending on what kind of media types you support
  178. [23:00:50] <lgonze> ditto other playlist formats like ASX
  179. [23:01:27] <lgonze> in HTML there are a couple possible approaches without resorting to a new microformat -- FIELDSET and SELECT
  180. [23:01:36] <lgonze> but they're both pretty hacky.
  181. [23:02:01] <lgonze> FIELDSET semantics are that items in the element are "thematically related"
  182. [23:02:35] <lgonze> SELECT is pretty much spot on but is very hard to style, and there's a lot of kinds of content you can't put in an OPTION
  183. [23:06:18] <mfbot> [[xoxo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xoxo&diff=0&oldid=2882 * RyanKing * (+137) added link to odeo
  184. [23:09:39] <lgonze> the question is: is there really a need for a microformat? are any of these alternatives usable, or is there another way that I haven't considered?
  185. [23:15:44] <mfbot> [[alternates-examples]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/alternates-examples * DavidJanes * (+595)
  186. [23:17:30] <mfbot> [[alternates-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=alternates-examples&diff=0&oldid=2883 * DavidJanes * (+87) See Also -
  187. [23:20:08] * Tantek (n=Tantek@dsl092-187-246.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
  188. [23:20:50] * ChanServ sets mode +o Tantek
  189. [23:21:30] <lgonze> Tantek: http://pastebin.bafserv.com/1961
  190. [23:25:31] <mfbot> [[hcalendar]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=2884 * Tantek * (+146) Examples in the wild -
  191. [23:29:07] <mfbot> [[hreview]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview&diff=0&oldid=2885 * Tantek * (+171) Examples in the wild -
  192. [23:31:03] <mfbot> [[alternates-brainstorming]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/alternates-brainstorming * DavidJanes * (+1690)
  193. [23:54:30] <mfbot> [[alternates-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=alternates-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=2886 * Greg Borenstein * (+527) Brainstorms -
  194. [23:56:31] <mfbot> [[alternates-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=alternates-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=2887 * Greg Borenstein * (-54) Brainstorms -

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