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lgonze is Lucas Gonze and blogs at http://www.gonze.com/
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http://pastebin.bafserv.com/1945
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- [03:15:32] <lgonze>
that pastebin stuff has two different syntaxes to express the same meaning. I'm trying to decide between them or find a better alternative.
- [03:16:18] <lgonze>
the background info for this question is that microformats should generally be unneccessary unless you really can't do it with plain old HTML, so I'm trying to avoid even writing a microformat.
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does it make sense to replicate the content resolver features of xspf in a microformat, or does that go beyond the purposeless-purposefullness restriction?
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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factoryjoe is Chris Messina
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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AndyHume is Andrew D. Hume and blogs at http://thedredge.org/ and has a wonderful use of hCards for commenters (see http://thedredge.org/2005/06/using-hcards-in-your-blog/ for details)
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RobertBachmann is in Austria
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dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com)
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factoryjoe is Chris Messina
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AndyHume is Andrew D. Hume and blogs at http://thedredge.org/ and has a wonderful use of hCards for commenters (see http://thedredge.org/2005/06/using-hcards-in-your-blog/ for details)
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hober is Edward O'Connor and works for EVDB on http://eventful.com/
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good evening
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RobertBachmann is in Austria
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[[rest/opacity]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/opacity&diff=0&oldid=2880 * DrErnie * (+578) The Bottom Line -
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[[rest/opacity]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/opacity&diff=0&oldid=2881 * DrErnie * (+73) Summary by Jon Hanna -
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factoryjoe is Chris Messina
- [21:36:48] <lgonze>
ping
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pong
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- [22:59:10] <lgonze>
issue to consider:
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the common pattern of having multiple independent alternatives from which to choose one
- [23:00:10] <lgonze>
Media RSS has multiple source URLs for the same podcast or videoblog
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SMIL has a switch statement to allow you to pick the source depending on what kind of media types you support
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ditto other playlist formats like ASX
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in HTML there are a couple possible approaches without resorting to a new microformat -- FIELDSET and SELECT
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but they're both pretty hacky.
- [23:02:01] <lgonze>
FIELDSET semantics are that items in the element are "thematically related"
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SELECT is pretty much spot on but is very hard to style, and there's a lot of kinds of content you can't put in an OPTION
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[[xoxo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xoxo&diff=0&oldid=2882 * RyanKing * (+137) added link to odeo
- [23:09:39] <lgonze>
the question is: is there really a need for a microformat? are any of these alternatives usable, or is there another way that I haven't considered?
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[[alternates-examples]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/alternates-examples * DavidJanes * (+595)
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[[alternates-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=alternates-examples&diff=0&oldid=2883 * DavidJanes * (+87) See Also -
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