IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-05-15
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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hey tantek -- how you doing?
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hey imajes - recovering from the Singularity Summit
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i always love the whole conf recovery
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never get enough sleep during them
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had to get up at 7am to get there on time, and sessions/events lasted until 10pm
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always the way
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i wish CSS could fix the height problem
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heh, i just realized reading that i sound like a moron
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:)
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tantek: was the work done with microformats ever specifically incorporated in dicussions at the Singularity Summit? just out of curiosity...
- [01:55:27] <tantek>
there were certainly numerous microformats discussions in small groups at the breaks and in the general cluster of folks hanging around after the formal sessions, but there were no explicit discussions of microformats, or data formats, or open data, during the formal presentations
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Cory Doctorow did touch a bit on owning your own data, with respect to having control and ownership over the software/media/data that you purchase such as CDs.
- [01:56:08] <PhilipAshlock>
well good to know it was active in the background
- [01:56:36] <tantek>
certainly it didn't hurt that I was wearing my microformats tshirt ;)
- [01:57:16] <tantek>
the discussions around the Singularity are quite an interesting contrast to microformats. huge changes that will alter things in possibly unpredictable ways, in contrast to small changes that will alter things in predictably useful and productive ways.
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well put, but sometimes it's hard not to see these small changes as sparks to the bigger ones
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are tshirts available for order one the website somewhere?
- [01:59:44] <tantek>
I believe Chris Messina setup a store somewhere but I don't remember the exact place
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aha, via goodstorm? - https://www.goodstorm.com/item/microformats/microformats_we_do_it_with_class
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yes, that's it
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thanks, shirt ordered. If only A List Apart would re-open their store.
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ah, some photos have already been posted: http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformatstshirt/
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impressively fashionable
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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bewest is curious about emerging standards
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RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: UTC+02)
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: UTC+02)
- [18:35:16] <smackman>
Hey -- I sent a message to microformats-rest last week, and *then* joined it. Is it sitting in some queue somewhere? Should I just resend it?
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- [18:35:59] <freeside>
would it be possible to add an example to http://microformats.org/about/ , please.
- [18:38:07] <RobertBachmann>
smackman: IMO, just resend it.
- [18:38:21] <RobertBachmann>
freeside: what example?
- [18:38:38] <smackman>
RobertBachmann: thanks. i was worried i'd look like a dork sending the same message twice. but now i already look like a dork.
- [18:45:18] <RobertBachmann>
ah microtemplates.
- [18:46:05] <smackman>
RobertBachmann:yep =)
- [18:47:20] <smackman>
(tantek said uf-rest might reach a broader audience interested in ajax, etc)
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- [18:50:13] <Sam_Elowitch>
hi all
- [18:50:38] <Sam_Elowitch>
question: how does the hCard format deal with things like married couples and other relationships?
- [18:51:13] <smackman>
i think you want xfn for relationships between people
- [18:51:17] <smackman>
rel="spouse", iirc
- [18:51:24] <Sam_Elowitch>
aha
- [18:52:02] <Sam_Elowitch>
so one could create what amounts to a semi-relational database using hCard
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- [18:52:38] <Sam_Elowitch>
one of the things that has driven me crazy for years is how PalmOS and many PIMs have such a primitive view of contact information
- [18:52:47] <Sam_Elowitch>
it's like they never imagine a couple living together
- [18:52:50] <Sam_Elowitch>
with the same last name
- [18:52:53] <Sam_Elowitch>
same home address
- [18:52:59] <Sam_Elowitch>
different business contact info
- [18:53:39] <Sam_Elowitch>
hCard could change all that, couldn't it?
- [18:54:46] <Sam_Elowitch>
well I'm very intrigued
- [18:54:51] <Sam_Elowitch>
this is cool stuff
- [18:56:56] <Sam_Elowitch>
well thanks for the info! gotta run
- [18:56:57] <Sam_Elowitch>
..
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- [19:52:29] <mfbot>
[[hcard-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=6371 * Tantek * (+342) msnim: doesn't work on MacOSX
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RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: UTC+02)
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