IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-05-29

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  1. [00:02:47] <mfbot> [[irc]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc&diff=0&oldid=6470 * Remi * (+35) People on irc - added myself
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  27. [01:43:57] <mfbot> [[rest/examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/examples&diff=0&oldid=6472 * Tantek * (-6886) Reverted edit of 1148867905, changed back to last version by RobertBachmann
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  38. [01:45:41] <tantek> took them 8 minutes to spam (with 4 accounts) what it took me 2 minutes to clean.
  39. [01:45:44] <tantek> all clear.
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  57. [04:19:06] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  75. [08:49:21] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  84. [10:30:59] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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  86. [10:53:28] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  90. [11:47:49] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  93. [12:10:13] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  111. [15:49:42] <jibot> evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
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  114. [16:28:14] <jibot> RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: UTC+02)
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  120. [16:57:25] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  130. [18:05:37] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  136. [18:13:42] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  151. [21:09:11] <evanpro> http://evan.prodromou.name/RDFa_vs_microformats
  152. [21:09:21] <evanpro> That's something I just wrote today about my worries w/r/t microformats
  153. [21:13:30] <_fil_> interesting evanpro
  154. [21:13:59] <evanpro> thx
  155. [21:14:22] <evanpro> well, I'm thinking hard about where to go with implementation plans for microformats
  156. [21:14:38] <_fil_> simplicity and observation of existing uses are key in microformats (from what i've understood)
  157. [21:14:54] <evanpro> yes
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  159. [21:15:30] <jibot> RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: UTC+02)
  160. [21:15:43] <_fil_> it seems that the two approaches are not de facto/de jure but also top-down / bottom-up in a way
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  162. [21:18:43] <_fil_> I had never looked at RDFa but I'm glad to see that it's very similar to mf
  163. [21:18:48] <evanpro> it is
  164. [21:18:54] <evanpro> too similar to stay separate, IMHO
  165. [21:19:22] <_fil_> so in fact a robot could parse a mf-enabled page and make it mf+rdfa-enabled
  166. [21:19:37] <evanpro> yes
  167. [21:19:58] <evanpro> iwbni there were a way to add a single URL to a page to give a "default RDFa namespace", ...
  168. [21:20:00] <_fil_> a small post-production filter like tidy for example
  169. [21:20:54] <evanpro> ...such that saying "I'm using metadata from http://microformats.org/wiki/hCard" would be enough to make the page RDFa-compatible
  170. [21:22:42] <RobertBachmann> There's GRDDL (Gleaning Resource Descriptions from Dialects of Languages) for transforming XML and XHTML into RDF
  171. [21:22:42] <RobertBachmann> and there's also a proposal for hGRDDL (an extraction from Microformats to RDFa)
  172. [21:22:50] <RobertBachmann> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Apr/0069.html>
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  175. [21:26:11] <evanpro> so, there are these two microscopically different formats...
  176. [21:26:31] <evanpro> ...and I'm going to have to use some sort of programmatic interface to convert between them?
  177. [21:27:17] <RobertBachmann> microscopically?
  178. [21:32:30] <evanpro> OK, macroscopically but still quite small B-)
  179. [21:36:20] <mfbot> [[faqs-for-rdf]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faqs-for-rdf&diff=0&oldid=6473 * RobertBachmann * (+3) So how do I get the data out? - Updated link to GRDDL draft
  180. [21:37:26] <mfbot> [[faqs-for-rdf]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faqs-for-rdf&diff=0&oldid=6474 * RobertBachmann * (+84) So how do I get the data out? - Added: hGRDDL
  181. [21:38:12] <mfbot> [[faqs-for-rdf]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faqs-for-rdf&diff=0&oldid=6475 * RobertBachmann * (+1) So how do I get the data out? -
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