IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-05-29
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[[irc]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc&diff=0&oldid=6470 * Remi * (+35) People on irc - added myself
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[[hbib]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/hbib * 1148867664 * (+6886)
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[[Talk:rest/rex-proposal]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:rest/rex-proposal * 1148867728 * (+6886)
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[[User:Tim White]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Tim_White * 1148867796 * (+6886)
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[[Talk:faqs-for-rdf]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:faqs-for-rdf * 1148867796 * (+6886)
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[[Talk:htodo]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:htodo * 1148867844 * (+6886)
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[[Talk:screencasts]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:screencasts * 1148867905 * (+6886)
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[[Special:Log/delete]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/delete&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) deleted "Talk:screencasts": spam
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[[rest/examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/examples&diff=0&oldid=6472 * Tantek * (-6886) Reverted edit of 1148867905, changed back to last version by RobertBachmann
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- [01:45:41] <tantek>
took them 8 minutes to spam (with 4 accounts) what it took me 2 minutes to clean.
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all clear.
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00)
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00)
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
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RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: UTC+02)
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
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- [21:09:11] <evanpro>
http://evan.prodromou.name/RDFa_vs_microformats
- [21:09:21] <evanpro>
That's something I just wrote today about my worries w/r/t microformats
- [21:13:30] <_fil_>
interesting evanpro
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thx
- [21:14:22] <evanpro>
well, I'm thinking hard about where to go with implementation plans for microformats
- [21:14:38] <_fil_>
simplicity and observation of existing uses are key in microformats (from what i've understood)
- [21:14:54] <evanpro>
yes
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RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: UTC+02)
- [21:15:43] <_fil_>
it seems that the two approaches are not de facto/de jure but also top-down / bottom-up in a way
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- [21:18:43] <_fil_>
I had never looked at RDFa but I'm glad to see that it's very similar to mf
- [21:18:48] <evanpro>
it is
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too similar to stay separate, IMHO
- [21:19:22] <_fil_>
so in fact a robot could parse a mf-enabled page and make it mf+rdfa-enabled
- [21:19:37] <evanpro>
yes
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iwbni there were a way to add a single URL to a page to give a "default RDFa namespace", ...
- [21:20:00] <_fil_>
a small post-production filter like tidy for example
- [21:20:54] <evanpro>
...such that saying "I'm using metadata from http://microformats.org/wiki/hCard" would be enough to make the page RDFa-compatible
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There's GRDDL (Gleaning Resource Descriptions from Dialects of Languages) for transforming XML and XHTML into RDF
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and there's also a proposal for hGRDDL (an extraction from Microformats to RDFa)
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<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Apr/0069.html>
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- [21:26:11] <evanpro>
so, there are these two microscopically different formats...
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...and I'm going to have to use some sort of programmatic interface to convert between them?
- [21:27:17] <RobertBachmann>
microscopically?
- [21:32:30] <evanpro>
OK, macroscopically but still quite small B-)
- [21:36:20] <mfbot>
[[faqs-for-rdf]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faqs-for-rdf&diff=0&oldid=6473 * RobertBachmann * (+3) So how do I get the data out? - Updated link to GRDDL draft
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[[faqs-for-rdf]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faqs-for-rdf&diff=0&oldid=6474 * RobertBachmann * (+84) So how do I get the data out? - Added: hGRDDL
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[[faqs-for-rdf]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faqs-for-rdf&diff=0&oldid=6475 * RobertBachmann * (+1) So how do I get the data out? -
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