IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-08-11

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  16. [02:16:30] <jibot> Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
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  18. [02:41:48] <jibot> Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
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  26. [03:55:00] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=8085 * ChristopheDucamp * (+83) Discussions Exploratoires - ajout group
  27. [03:55:46] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=8086 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Discussions Exploratoires -
  28. [03:59:32] <mfbot> [[group-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=group-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=8087 * ChristopheDucamp * (-255) Exemples du Vrai Monde -
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  33. [04:05:41] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  35. [04:08:39] <mfbot> [[group-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=group-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=8088 * ChristopheDucamp * (+762)
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  37. [04:13:46] <mfbot> [[vcard-implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=8089 * ChristopheDucamp * (+230) Microsoft Outlook -
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  39. [04:18:42] <mfbot> [[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8090 * ChristopheDucamp * (+113) Exemples "dans la jungle" - ajout zeldman
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  41. [04:23:08] <mfbot> [[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8091 * ChristopheDucamp * (+123) Nouveaux Exemples -
  42. [04:31:39] <mfbot> [[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8092 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2147) Exemples - restoring list following original hCard
  43. [04:34:50] <mfbot> [[Main Page-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=8093 * IwaiMasaharu * (+79) sync: english: 20:41, 10 Aug 2006
  44. [04:36:51] <mfbot> [[Main Page-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=8094 * IwaiMasaharu * (-1) ディスカッション - 原文の意味が上手く訳せてない気がするので英語に戻す。
  45. [04:43:12] <mfbot> [[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8095 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2941) Exemples - création
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  54. [06:15:37] <jibot> Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
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  58. [06:35:31] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  67. [08:12:24] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  69. [08:23:01] <mfbot> [[what-can-you-do-with-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=what-can-you-do-with-microformats&diff=0&oldid=8097 * BenWest * (+786)
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  72. [08:45:11] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  78. [09:56:16] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
  79. [09:56:30] <drewinthehead> mornin'
  80. [09:57:04] <drewinthehead> travel around London is not recommended for today. grumble, grumble.
  81. [09:57:13] <trovster> really? ouch
  82. [09:57:53] <drewinthehead> took me 3 hours to get in this morning
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  84. [10:00:49] <jibot> Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
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  87. [10:18:20] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  90. [11:30:42] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
  91. [11:31:31] <trovster> drewinthehead: We should all publish our club backgrounds/desktop screenshot ;)
  92. [11:31:53] <drewinthehead> it's not be hugely interesting, to be fair ;)
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  94. [11:32:00] <trovster> hehe. so!
  95. [11:32:41] <gsnedders> desktop screenshots are _so_ old :P
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  99. [12:34:22] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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  103. [12:58:19] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  111. [13:30:02] <jibot> Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
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  113. [13:37:06] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  115. [13:53:26] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=8098 * GdfsGersccz * (+18449)
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  117. [13:59:40] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  120. [14:20:15] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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  122. [14:34:15] <jibot> remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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  124. [14:50:16] <jibot> McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
  125. [14:54:27] <McNulty> Is there any hAtom support for enclosures? I'm thinking of a blog with hyperlinks in taht becomes a podcast
  126. [14:55:36] <trovster> Not sure, but I'm sure it could be added.
  127. [14:55:46] <trovster> <a href="" class="enclosure">
  128. [14:55:53] <McNulty> or @rel
  129. [14:56:05] <McNulty> hm, ok
  130. [14:56:40] <McNulty> It stems from a discussion over lunch with a friend who has a blog and posts MP3s from time to time. I asked why he didn't make it a podcast and he said it all seems really complicated.
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  132. [15:00:43] <trovster> http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-enclosure ...
  133. [15:00:52] <trovster> <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/kevinmarks/wwdc2005.mov" rel="enclosure">WWDC 2005 Keynote with chapters</a> -- it was rel
  134. [15:02:41] <McNulty> hm, thanks
  135. [15:03:34] <McNulty> I guess that's what I'm looking for
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  137. [15:23:23] <pnhChris> any wiki admins on?
  138. [15:24:30] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=8099 * ChrisCasciano * (-18449) reverting spam
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  140. [15:25:50] <drewinthehead> have you been spamming the home page again, pnhChris?
  141. [15:25:57] <pnhChris> i have
  142. [15:26:22] <trovster> I haven't broken anything!
  143. [15:26:25] <pnhChris> for my new site
  144. [15:26:36] <pnhChris> p****y4all.info
  145. [15:26:48] <pnhChris> its got hcards of all the hot teens
  146. [15:27:01] <trovster> ace
  147. [15:27:18] <pnhChris> though i had to hack in support for x-body-measurements
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  149. [15:42:03] <jibot> ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
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  151. [15:42:33] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end developer at RD2, Inc.
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  153. [15:47:15] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  158. [16:35:06] <cgriego> I have an hCard parsing question in relation to tel type/value. could one tel element contain multiple types and values?
  159. [16:35:24] <cgriego> http://pastie.caboo.se/8142
  160. [16:45:23] <cgriego> What does this mean in English? `For properties which can be plural (e.g. "TEL"), each class instance should create a instance of that property. Plural properties with subtypes (e.g. TEL with WORK, HOME, CELL) can be optimized to share a common element for the property itself, with each instance of subtype being an appropriately classed descendant of the property element.`
  161. [17:00:18] <qid> is that from the vcard spec?
  162. [17:00:51] <qid> I would suggest not taking advantage of that optimization if you can to be less ambiguous
  163. [17:03:23] <qid> pnhChris: Girls Gone Semantic?
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  165. [17:12:08] <jibot> bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
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  167. [17:13:09] <trovster> Why do I read that as bicurious!
  168. [17:13:31] <bewest> dunno
  169. [17:13:33] <bewest> hehe
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  171. [17:16:48] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
  172. [17:17:53] <bewest> Why do I read that as Linkslayer?
  173. [17:18:38] <qid> you guys must have illegible fonts or something
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  179. [17:50:52] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  182. [17:54:10] <jibot> Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
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  184. [17:57:04] <gsnedders> I just realised quite how many people here have in their heralds where they work
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  190. [18:16:52] <pnhChris> quiet day so far online and off.. kinda refreshing
  191. [18:18:35] <pnhChris> any wiki mods on kingryan , tantek ? i reverted some main page spam earlier today but didn't ban the perp
  192. [18:18:56] <kingryan> hi pnhChris
  193. [18:18:59] <kingryan> I'll ban 'em
  194. [18:19:27] <kingryan> I assume you're talking about http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&curid=1&diff=8099&oldid=8098&rcid=10066 ?
  195. [18:19:39] <pnhChris> yup
  196. [18:19:46] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * RyanKing * (+0) blocked "User:GdfsGersccz" with an expiry time of indefinite: spammer!
  197. [18:19:53] <kingryan> :)
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  201. [18:42:47] <briansuda> cgriego, did you ever get your question answered from earlier?
  202. [18:49:28] <mfbot> [[group-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=group-examples&diff=0&oldid=8100 * Jim Dalton * (+1858) added real world examples
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  205. [19:00:54] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
  206. [19:01:17] <kingryan> hi drewinthehead
  207. [19:01:34] <drewinthehead> hi kingryan :)
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  210. [19:07:34] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  213. [19:28:53] <drewinthehead> back again!
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  216. [19:34:08] <cgriego> briansuda: I did not get my question answered.
  217. [19:34:28] <briansuda> do you want to re-ask it, it was the second time i got it this week
  218. [19:35:00] <cgriego> yes, maybe tantek can answer it.
  219. [19:35:22] <cgriego> What does this mean, in English? From Singular vs. Plural Properties: "For properties which can be plural (e.g. "TEL"), each class instance should create a instance of that property. Plural properties with subtypes (e.g. TEL with WORK, HOME, CELL) can be optimized to share a common element for the property itself, with each instance of subtype being an appropriately classed descendant of the property element."
  220. [19:37:51] <cgriego> does it mean that multiple type/value properties can be the child of a single tel property?
  221. [19:39:17] <briansuda> my thoughts on that are NO
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  223. [19:40:00] <briansuda> the main reason is because once you have children with class="type" and class="value" there is no way to tel which TYPE goes with which VALUE
  224. [19:40:20] <briansuda> also somewhere we have a statement that all class="value"s are concatenated together
  225. [19:40:37] <briansuda> this would violate this case
  226. [19:41:41] <cgriego> is there another option, other than changing the markup elements (which microformats is not about) for marking up this example? http://pastie.caboo.se/8142
  227. [19:41:52] <tantek> briansuda, I think you are correct
  228. [19:41:59] * tantek is trying to reintrepret his own words.
  229. [19:42:49] <briansuda> well cgriego, Day | Evening are not valid types anyway
  230. [19:42:50] <tantek> cgriego - that paragraph needs to be rewritten
  231. [19:43:02] <tantek> I agree that it is not sufficiently clear
  232. [19:43:24] <drewinthehead> that paragraph could almost be a quote from the British sitcom Yes Minister
  233. [19:43:57] <tantek> now that I reread it a few times, I think the second sentence is actually completely obsolete
  234. [19:44:39] <tantek> it is a hold over from the previous method of "type"ing TELs by using class names for the types, rather than making the types visible and using class="type"
  235. [19:44:53] <tantek> no wonder it wasn't making much sense
  236. [19:45:23] * tantek is downing leftover grapes from a couple of days ago for brunch.
  237. [19:46:46] <mfbot> [[hcard]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=8101 * Tantek * (-230) Singular vs. Plural Properties - removed obsolete sentence leftover from previous method of encoding "type" information on TEL etc.
  238. [19:47:05] <tantek> cgriego - better now?
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  240. [19:47:36] <drewinthehead> <37Signals> Less Logorrhoea! </37Signals>
  241. [19:49:37] <cgriego> tantek: the statement is more clear now, yes, but it doesn't really help me with trying to use tel with a definition list
  242. [19:50:23] <tantek> cgriego, i think i know what you are trying to do, and unfortunately DL is a bit limited
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  244. [19:51:02] <tantek> if you really want to use DL like that, you have to have a series of mini-DLs, each themselves having class="tel" with class="type" on the DT and class="value" on the DD
  245. [19:51:21] * tantek wonders if he read cgriego's mind correctly.
  246. [19:52:30] <cgriego> so it would have to be broken into two separate lists instead of remaining one
  247. [19:53:34] <tantek> right
  248. [19:53:39] <tantek> however many tels you have
  249. [19:54:33] * tantek really wants lists with continuation semantics
  250. [19:54:39] <tantek> so you can break them across parts of a page
  251. [19:54:42] <tantek> or across pages
  252. [19:56:46] <cgriego> would <tag class="vcard adr"> be heresy?
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  254. [19:58:06] <cgriego> since adr is its own format, I feel find doing it, but I imagine it wouldn't be picked up in a parsed hCard
  255. [19:58:27] <cgriego> fine*
  256. [19:58:36] <drewinthehead> the adr needs to be on a descendant of the element with the vcard for it to be considered part of the hCard, to my mind
  257. [19:58:53] <drewinthehead> it would stand on its own, however
  258. [19:59:40] <cgriego> it's too bad that there's no way to tie together multiple adr elements, because I could pull that off
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  269. [21:25:07] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  306. [23:57:26] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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