IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-08-11
Timestamps are in UTC.
- [00:03:48] * hober (n=ted@unaffiliated/hober) Quit ("nil")
 
- [00:12:10] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@c-67-162-230-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [00:12:42] * cotton_ (n=cotton@65-78-0-225.c3-0.arl-ubr2.sbo-arl.ma.cable.rcn.com) Quit ()
 
- [00:14:22] <mfbot> 
[[hcard]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=8084 * Adactio * (+109) Examples in the wild -
 
- [00:48:09] * cotton_ (n=cotton@65-78-0-225.c3-0.arl-ubr2.sbo-arl.ma.cable.rcn.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [00:49:07] * cotton_ (n=cotton@65-78-0-225.c3-0.arl-ubr2.sbo-arl.ma.cable.rcn.com) Quit (Client Quit)
 
- [01:02:36] * briansuda (n=briansud@ACA438DA.ipt.aol.com) Quit ()
 
- [01:14:57] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@c-67-162-230-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) Quit ()
 
- [01:15:04] * johnallsopp (n=johnalls@CPE-60-227-71-192.nsw.bigpond.net.au) has joined #microformats
 
- [01:36:57] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@c-67-162-230-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [01:52:49] * mlinksva (n=mlinksva@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/mlinksva) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
 
- [02:00:58] * cotton_ (n=cotton@65-78-0-225.c3-0.arl-ubr2.sbo-arl.ma.cable.rcn.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [02:13:24] * Atamido (n=atamido@cpe-67-9-173-252.austin.res.rr.com) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.73-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.8.0.1/2006012608]")
 
- [02:14:13] * kingryan (n=kingryan@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ()
 
- [02:16:30] * Jonnay (n=jonny@d199-126-185-156.abhsia.telus.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [02:16:30] <jibot> 
Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
 
- [02:41:47] * Atamido (n=atamido@cpe-67-9-173-252.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [02:41:48] <jibot> 
Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
 
- [02:48:53] * factoryjoe (n=cmessina@dsl081-246-197.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ()
 
- [02:55:33] * cotton_ (n=cotton@65-78-0-225.c3-0.arl-ubr2.sbo-arl.ma.cable.rcn.com) Quit ()
 
- [02:57:45] * Atamido (n=atamido@cpe-67-9-173-252.austin.res.rr.com) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.73-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.8.0.1/2006012608]")
 
- [03:19:29] * cotton_ (n=cotton@c-66-30-9-194.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [03:41:41] * brianoberkirch (n=brianobe@adsl-065-005-209-171.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [03:45:05] * brianoberkirch (n=brianobe@adsl-065-005-209-171.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) Quit (Client Quit)
 
- [03:50:03] * csarven (i=nevrasc@modemcable153.95-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) Quit ()
 
- [03:55:00] <mfbot> 
[[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=8085 * ChristopheDucamp * (+83) Discussions Exploratoires -   ajout group
 
- [03:55:46] <mfbot> 
[[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=8086 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Discussions Exploratoires -
 
- [03:59:32] <mfbot> 
[[group-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=group-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=8087 * ChristopheDucamp * (-255) Exemples du Vrai Monde -
 
- [04:02:37] * factoryjoe (n=cmessina@dsl081-246-197.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [04:02:53] <mfbot> 
[[group-examples-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/group-examples-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+684) [fr:sync with group-examples]
 
- [04:05:40] * briansuda (n=briansud@ACA438DA.ipt.aol.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [04:05:40] * ChanServ sets mode +o briansuda 
 
- [04:05:41] <jibot> 
briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
 
- [04:05:54] * cotton__ (n=cotton@c-66-30-9-194.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [04:08:39] <mfbot> 
[[group-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=group-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=8088 * ChristopheDucamp * (+762)
 
- [04:09:25] * briansuda (n=briansud@ACA438DA.ipt.aol.com) Quit (Client Quit)
 
- [04:13:46] <mfbot> 
[[vcard-implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=8089 * ChristopheDucamp * (+230) Microsoft Outlook -
 
- [04:15:41] * pnhChris (n=cac6982@c-68-39-65-171.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit ()
 
- [04:18:42] <mfbot> 
[[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8090 * ChristopheDucamp * (+113) Exemples "dans la jungle" -   ajout zeldman
 
- [04:22:20] * cotton_ (n=cotton@c-66-30-9-194.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
 
- [04:23:08] <mfbot> 
[[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8091 * ChristopheDucamp * (+123) Nouveaux Exemples -
 
- [04:31:39] <mfbot> 
[[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8092 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2147) Exemples -   restoring list following original hCard
 
- [04:34:50] <mfbot> 
[[Main Page-ja]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=8093 * IwaiMasaharu * (+79) sync: english: 20:41, 10 Aug 2006
 
- [04:36:51] <mfbot> 
[[Main Page-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=8094 * IwaiMasaharu * (-1) ディスカッション -  原文の意味が上手く訳せてない気がするので英語に戻す。
 
- [04:43:12] <mfbot> 
[[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8095 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2941) Exemples -   création
 
- [04:45:28] * cotton__ (n=cotton@c-66-30-9-194.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has left #microformats
 
- [04:50:24] <mfbot> 
[[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8096 * ChristopheDucamp * (-10) Nouveaux Exemples -  gardening
 
- [04:57:53] * ryanlowe (n=chatzill@CPE00045a734098-CM001225d89e7c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]")
 
- [05:19:24] * drewinthehead (n=drewinth@chauchcr.gotadsl.co.uk) Quit ("back soon, no doubt")
 
- [05:23:02] * cori[s] (n=cori[s]@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) has joined #microformats
 
- [05:41:38] * Zeo (n=zeo@218.111.48.189) has joined #microformats
 
- [05:52:24] * lisppaste4 (n=lisppast@common-lisp.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
 
- [06:15:37] * Atamido (n=atamido@cpe-67-9-173-252.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [06:15:37] <jibot> 
Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
 
- [06:23:01] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@c-67-162-230-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) Quit ()
 
- [06:32:35] * Jonnay (n=jonny@d199-126-185-156.abhsia.telus.net) has left #microformats
 
- [06:35:31] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [06:35:31] <jibot> 
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
 
- [06:35:34] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek 
 
- [06:41:38] * Atamido_ (n=atamido@cpe-67-9-173-252.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [06:49:45] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
 
- [06:55:56] * Atamido (n=atamido@cpe-67-9-173-252.austin.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
 
- [07:12:50] * Atamido_ (n=atamido@cpe-67-9-173-252.austin.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
 
- [07:27:11] * cori[s] is now known as cori[s]|zZz
 
- [08:07:06] * dc__ (n=dctanner@bb-87-81-165-34.ukonline.co.uk) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
 
- [08:12:23] * trovster (n=trov@creation1.plus.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [08:12:24] <jibot> 
trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
 
- [08:16:14] * dc__ (n=dctanner@bb-87-81-165-34.ukonline.co.uk) has joined #microformats
 
- [08:23:01] <mfbot> 
[[what-can-you-do-with-microformats]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=what-can-you-do-with-microformats&diff=0&oldid=8097 * BenWest * (+786)
 
- [08:38:02] * bear42 (n=bear@c-71-230-109-9.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
 
- [08:45:10] * bergie (n=bergie@kone1.tmvvision.finnetcom.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [08:45:11] <jibot> 
bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
 
- [08:48:57] * bear42 (n=bear@c-71-230-109-9.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [09:04:14] * bergie (n=bergie@kone1.tmvvision.finnetcom.net) Quit ()
 
- [09:13:33] * pecus (n=pecus@194.65.5.235) Quit ()
 
- [09:14:05] * pecus (n=pecus@194.65.5.235) has joined #microformats
 
- [09:56:16] * drewinthehead (n=mclellan@nat-fw.london.corp.yahoo.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [09:56:16] <jibot> 
drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
 
- [09:56:30] <drewinthehead> 
mornin'
 
- [09:57:04] <drewinthehead> 
travel around London is not recommended for today. grumble, grumble.
 
- [09:57:13] <trovster> 
really? ouch
 
- [09:57:53] <drewinthehead> 
took me 3 hours to get in this morning
 
- [10:00:48] * Phae (n=Chatuser@212.2.31.157) has joined #microformats
 
- [10:00:49] <jibot> 
Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
 
- [10:16:47] * Phae (n=Chatuser@212.2.31.157) Quit ("Leaving")
 
- [10:18:20] * bergie (n=bergie@kone1.tmvvision.finnetcom.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [10:18:20] <jibot> 
bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
 
- [10:18:30] * bergie (n=bergie@kone1.tmvvision.finnetcom.net) Quit (Client Quit)
 
- [11:30:41] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [11:30:42] <jibot> 
gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
 
- [11:31:31] <trovster> 
drewinthehead: We should all publish our club backgrounds/desktop screenshot ;)
 
- [11:31:53] <drewinthehead> 
it's not be hugely interesting, to be fair ;)
 
- [11:31:56] * cori[s]|zZz is now known as cori[s]
 
- [11:32:00] <trovster> 
hehe. so!
 
- [11:32:41] <gsnedders> 
desktop screenshots are _so_ old :P
 
- [11:55:34] * brianoberkirch (n=brianobe@adsl-065-005-209-171.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [12:20:23] * lisppaste4 (n=lisppast@common-lisp.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [12:34:22] * csarven (i=nevrasc@modemcable153.95-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #microformats
 
- [12:34:22] <jibot> 
csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
 
- [12:41:53] * brianoberkirch (n=brianobe@adsl-065-005-209-171.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) Quit ()
 
- [12:56:00] * brianoberkirch (n=brianobe@adsl-065-005-209-171.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [12:58:19] * mlinksva (n=mlinksva@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/mlinksva) has joined #microformats
 
- [12:58:19] <jibot> 
mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
 
- [13:01:01] * brianoberkirch (n=brianobe@adsl-065-005-209-171.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) Quit ()
 
- [13:05:39] * lisppaste4 (n=lisppast@common-lisp.net) Quit ("Want lisppaste4 in your channel? Email lisppaste-requests AT common-lisp.net.")
 
- [13:07:42] * lisppaste4 (n=lisppast@common-lisp.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [13:20:59] * brianoberkirch (n=brianobe@adsl-065-005-209-171.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [13:23:55] * plaes (n=plaes@ns.store20.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
 
- [13:23:55] * brianoberkirch (n=brianobe@adsl-065-005-209-171.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) Quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
 
- [13:30:02] * Jonnay (n=jonny@d199-126-185-156.abhsia.telus.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [13:30:02] <jibot> 
Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
 
- [13:37:06] * sreynen (n=sreynen@216.81.176.51) has joined #microformats
 
- [13:37:06] <jibot> 
sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
 
- [13:38:27] * plaes (n=plaes@ns.store20.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [13:53:26] <mfbot> 
[[Main Page]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=8098 * GdfsGersccz * (+18449)
 
- [13:59:40] * pnhChris (n=cac6982@c-68-39-65-171.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [13:59:40] <jibot> 
pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
 
- [14:04:08] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) Quit ()
 
- [14:20:15] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [14:20:15] <jibot> 
gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
 
- [14:34:15] * remi (n=remi@c207.134.19-156.clta.globetrotter.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [14:34:15] <jibot> 
remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
 
- [14:50:16] * McNulty (n=McNulty@nat-195.157.130.52.maximalls.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [14:50:16] <jibot> 
McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
 
- [14:54:27] <McNulty> 
Is there any hAtom support for enclosures?  I'm thinking of a blog with hyperlinks in taht becomes a podcast
 
- [14:55:36] <trovster> 
Not sure, but I'm sure it could be added.
 
- [14:55:46] <trovster> 
<a href="" class="enclosure">
 
- [14:55:53] <McNulty> 
or @rel
 
- [14:56:05] <McNulty> 
hm, ok
 
- [14:56:40] <McNulty> 
It stems from a discussion over lunch with a friend who has a blog and posts MP3s from time to time.  I asked why he didn't make it a podcast and he said it all seems really complicated.
 
- [14:59:05] * Zeo (n=zeo@218.111.48.189) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
 
- [15:00:43] <trovster> 
http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-enclosure ...
 
- [15:00:52] <trovster> 
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/kevinmarks/wwdc2005.mov" rel="enclosure">WWDC 2005 Keynote with chapters</a> -- it was rel
 
- [15:02:41] <McNulty> 
hm, thanks
 
- [15:03:34] <McNulty> 
I guess that's what I'm looking for
 
- [15:11:39] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit ("The computer fell asleep")
 
- [15:23:23] <pnhChris> 
any wiki admins on?
 
- [15:24:30] <mfbot> 
[[Main Page]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=8099 * ChrisCasciano * (-18449) reverting spam
 
- [15:24:52] * McNulty (n=McNulty@nat-195.157.130.52.maximalls.net) has left #microformats
 
- [15:25:50] <drewinthehead> 
have you been spamming the home page again, pnhChris?
 
- [15:25:57] <pnhChris> 
i have
 
- [15:26:22] <trovster> 
I haven't broken anything!
 
- [15:26:25] <pnhChris> 
for my new site
 
- [15:26:36] <pnhChris> 
p****y4all.info
 
- [15:26:48] <pnhChris> 
its got hcards of all the hot teens
 
- [15:27:01] <trovster> 
ace
 
- [15:27:18] <pnhChris> 
though i had to hack in support for x-body-measurements
 
- [15:42:02] * ryanlowe (n=chatzill@CPE00045a734098-CM001225d89e7c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [15:42:03] <jibot> 
ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
 
- [15:42:33] * cgriego (n=cgriego@e2.87.5d45.static.theplanet.com) has joined #Microformats
 
- [15:42:33] <jibot> 
cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end developer at RD2, Inc.
 
- [15:47:14] * briansuda (n=briansud@h-68-166-252-239.chcgilgm.covad.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [15:47:15] <jibot> 
briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
 
- [15:47:15] * ChanServ sets mode +o briansuda 
 
- [15:52:26] * Zeo (n=zeo@60.49.108.107) has joined #microformats
 
- [16:21:26] * drewinthehead (n=mclellan@nat-fw.london.corp.yahoo.com) has left #microformats
 
- [16:22:31] * mlinksva (n=mlinksva@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/mlinksva) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
 
- [16:35:06] <cgriego> 
I have an hCard parsing question in relation to tel type/value. could one tel element contain multiple types and values?
 
- [16:35:24] <cgriego> 
http://pastie.caboo.se/8142
 
- [16:45:23] <cgriego> 
What does this mean in English? `For properties which can be plural (e.g. "TEL"), each class instance should create a instance of that property. Plural properties with subtypes (e.g. TEL with WORK, HOME, CELL) can be optimized to share a common element for the property itself, with each instance of subtype being an appropriately classed descendant of the property element.`
 
- [17:00:18] <qid> 
is that from the vcard spec?
 
- [17:00:51] <qid> 
I would suggest not taking advantage of that optimization if you can to be less ambiguous
 
- [17:03:23] <qid> 
pnhChris: Girls Gone Semantic?
 
- [17:12:07] * bewest (n=ben@httpcraft/bewest) has joined #microformats
 
- [17:12:08] <jibot> 
bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
 
- [17:12:17] * Zeo (n=zeo@60.49.108.107) Quit ("What the ...")
 
- [17:13:09] <trovster> 
Why do I read that as bicurious!
 
- [17:13:31] <bewest> 
dunno
 
- [17:13:33] <bewest> 
hehe
 
- [17:16:48] * mlinksva (n=mlinksva@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/mlinksva) has joined #microformats
 
- [17:16:48] <jibot> 
mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
 
- [17:17:53] <bewest> 
Why do I read that as Linkslayer?
 
- [17:18:38] <qid> 
you guys must have illegible fonts or something
 
- [17:20:40] * pecus (n=pecus@194.65.5.235) has left #microformats
 
- [17:21:51] * pecus (n=pecus@194.65.5.235) has joined #microformats
 
- [17:41:01] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [17:41:11] * ChanServ sets mode +o KevinMarks 
 
- [17:50:51] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [17:50:52] <jibot> 
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
 
- [17:50:55] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek 
 
- [17:54:10] * Phae (n=phae@bb-87-80-218-92.ukonline.co.uk) has joined #microformats
 
- [17:54:10] <jibot> 
Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
 
- [17:55:12] * trovster (n=trov@creation1.plus.com) Quit ()
 
- [17:57:04] <gsnedders> 
I just realised quite how many people here have in their heralds where they work
 
- [18:00:26] * evanpro (n=evanpro@pdpc/supporter/silver/evanpro) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
 
- [18:01:15] * evanpro (n=evanpro@pdpc/supporter/silver/evanpro) has joined #microformats
 
- [18:06:37] * kingryan (n=kingryan@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [18:06:41] * ChanServ sets mode +o kingryan 
 
- [18:15:24] * Phae (n=phae@bb-87-80-218-92.ukonline.co.uk) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
 
- [18:16:52] <pnhChris> 
quiet day so far online and off.. kinda refreshing
 
- [18:18:35] <pnhChris> 
any wiki mods on kingryan , tantek ? i reverted some main page spam earlier today but didn't ban the perp
 
- [18:18:56] <kingryan> 
hi pnhChris
 
- [18:18:59] <kingryan> 
I'll ban 'em
 
- [18:19:27] <kingryan> 
I assume you're talking about http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&curid=1&diff=8099&oldid=8098&rcid=10066 ?
 
- [18:19:39] <pnhChris> 
yup
 
- [18:19:46] <mfbot> 
[[Special:Log/block]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * RyanKing * (+0) blocked "User:GdfsGersccz" with an expiry time of indefinite: spammer!
 
- [18:19:53] <kingryan> 
:)
 
- [18:26:27] * arapehl (n=chatzill@door.ml.nurun.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [18:27:50] * arapehl (n=chatzill@door.ml.nurun.com) Quit (Client Quit)
 
- [18:42:37] * Kura (n=Kura@80.187.147.107) has joined #microformats
 
- [18:42:47] <briansuda> 
cgriego, did you ever get your question answered from earlier?
 
- [18:49:28] <mfbot> 
[[group-examples]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=group-examples&diff=0&oldid=8100 * Jim Dalton * (+1858) added real world examples
 
- [18:52:41] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@63.98.55.146) has joined #microformats
 
- [19:00:53] * drewinthehead (n=drewinth@chauchcr.gotadsl.co.uk) has joined #microformats
 
- [19:00:54] <jibot> 
drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
 
- [19:01:17] <kingryan> 
hi drewinthehead
 
- [19:01:34] <drewinthehead> 
hi kingryan  :)
 
- [19:01:51] * Kura (n=Kura@80.187.147.107) Quit ()
 
- [19:07:33] * trovster (n=trovster@host217-42-180-219.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [19:07:34] <jibot> 
trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
 
- [19:18:51] * drewinthehead (n=drewinth@chauchcr.gotadsl.co.uk) Quit ()
 
- [19:25:29] * drewinthehead (n=drewinth@chauchcr.gotadsl.co.uk) has joined #microformats
 
- [19:28:53] <drewinthehead> 
back again!
 
- [19:32:59] * pnhChris (n=cac6982@c-68-39-65-171.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has left #microformats
 
- [19:33:21] * pnhChris (n=cac6982@c-68-39-65-171.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [19:34:08] <cgriego> 
briansuda: I did not get my question answered.
 
- [19:34:28] <briansuda> 
do you want to re-ask it, it was the second time i got it this week
 
- [19:35:00] <cgriego> 
yes, maybe tantek can answer it.
 
- [19:35:22] <cgriego> 
What does this mean, in English? From Singular vs. Plural Properties: "For properties which can be plural (e.g. "TEL"), each class instance should create a instance of that property. Plural properties with subtypes (e.g. TEL with WORK, HOME, CELL) can be optimized to share a common element for the property itself, with each instance of subtype being an appropriately classed descendant of the property element."
 
- [19:37:51] <cgriego> 
does it mean that multiple type/value properties can be the child of a single tel property?
 
- [19:39:17] <briansuda> 
my thoughts on that are NO
 
- [19:39:18] * mlinksva (n=mlinksva@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/mlinksva) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
 
- [19:40:00] <briansuda> 
the main reason is because once you have children with class="type" and class="value" there is no way to tel which TYPE goes with which VALUE
 
- [19:40:20] <briansuda> 
also somewhere we have a statement that all class="value"s are concatenated together
 
- [19:40:37] <briansuda> 
this would violate this case
 
- [19:41:41] <cgriego> 
is there another option, other than changing the markup elements (which microformats is not about) for marking up this example? http://pastie.caboo.se/8142
 
- [19:41:52] <tantek> 
briansuda, I think you are correct
 
- [19:41:59] * tantek is trying to reintrepret his own words.
 
- [19:42:49] <briansuda> 
well cgriego, Day | Evening are not valid types anyway
 
- [19:42:50] <tantek> 
cgriego - that paragraph needs to be rewritten
 
- [19:43:02] <tantek> 
I agree that it is not sufficiently clear
 
- [19:43:24] <drewinthehead> 
that paragraph could almost be a quote from the British sitcom Yes Minister
 
- [19:43:57] <tantek> 
now that I reread it a few times, I think the second sentence is actually completely obsolete
 
- [19:44:39] <tantek> 
it  is a hold over from the previous method of "type"ing TELs by using class names for the types, rather than making the types visible and using class="type"
 
- [19:44:53] <tantek> 
no wonder it wasn't making much sense
 
- [19:45:23] * tantek is downing leftover grapes from a couple of days ago for brunch.
 
- [19:46:46] <mfbot> 
[[hcard]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=8101 * Tantek * (-230) Singular vs. Plural Properties -  removed obsolete sentence leftover from previous method of encoding "type" information on TEL etc.
 
- [19:47:05] <tantek> 
cgriego - better now?
 
- [19:47:07] * mlinksva (n=mlinksva@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/mlinksva) has joined #microformats
 
- [19:47:36] <drewinthehead> 
<37Signals> Less Logorrhoea! </37Signals>
 
- [19:49:37] <cgriego> 
tantek: the statement is more clear now, yes, but it doesn't really help me with trying to use tel with a definition list
 
- [19:50:23] <tantek> 
cgriego, i think i know what you are trying to do, and unfortunately DL is a bit limited
 
- [19:50:23] * factoryjoe (n=cmessina@dsl081-246-197.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ()
 
- [19:51:02] <tantek> 
if you really want to use DL like that, you have to have a series of mini-DLs, each themselves having class="tel" with class="type" on the DT and class="value" on the DD
 
- [19:51:21] * tantek wonders if he read cgriego's mind correctly.
 
- [19:52:30] <cgriego> 
so it would have to be broken into two separate lists instead of remaining one
 
- [19:53:34] <tantek> 
right
 
- [19:53:39] <tantek> 
however many tels you have
 
- [19:54:33] * tantek really wants lists with continuation semantics
 
- [19:54:39] <tantek> 
so you can break them across parts of a page
 
- [19:54:42] <tantek> 
or across pages
 
- [19:56:46] <cgriego> 
would <tag class="vcard adr"> be heresy?
 
- [19:57:26] * remi (n=remi@c207.134.19-156.clta.globetrotter.net) Quit ()
 
- [19:58:06] <cgriego> 
since adr is its own format, I feel find doing it, but I imagine it wouldn't be picked up in a parsed hCard
 
- [19:58:27] <cgriego> 
fine*
 
- [19:58:36] <drewinthehead> 
the adr needs to be on a descendant of the element with the vcard for it to be considered part of the hCard, to my mind
 
- [19:58:53] <drewinthehead> 
it would stand on its own, however
 
- [19:59:40] <cgriego> 
it's too bad that there's no way to tie together multiple adr elements, because I could pull that off
 
- [20:12:45] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) Quit ()
 
- [20:16:41] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [20:22:49] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) Quit ()
 
- [20:23:04] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) Quit ()
 
- [20:25:59] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [20:26:56] * hober (n=ted@unaffiliated/hober) has joined #microformats
 
- [20:31:21] * drewinthehead (n=drewinth@chauchcr.gotadsl.co.uk) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
 
- [20:31:48] * drewinthehead (n=drewinth@chauchcr.gotadsl.co.uk) has joined #microformats
 
- [21:12:04] * mlinksva (n=mlinksva@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/mlinksva) Quit (Connection timed out)
 
- [21:25:06] * tantek (n=tantek@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [21:25:07] <jibot> 
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
 
- [21:25:22] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek 
 
- [21:25:50] * trovster (n=trovster@host217-42-180-219.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) Quit ()
 
- [21:41:50] <mfbot> 
[[selected-test-cases-from-the-web]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=selected-test-cases-from-the-web&diff=0&oldid=8102 * Kwilson * (-147) Fixed display of hCard example.
 
- [21:48:03] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) Quit ()
 
- [21:49:26] <mfbot> 
[[User:Kwilson]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Kwilson * Kwilson * (+213) Adding some minimal content.
 
- [21:54:22] * valmont (n=chrishol@germany.pspdev.pas.earthlink.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [22:13:11] * tantek (n=tantek@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ()
 
- [22:18:39] * tantek (n=tantek@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
 
- [22:19:00] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek 
 
- [22:22:16] * sreynen (n=sreynen@216.81.176.51) Quit ()
 
- [22:38:42] * Atamido_ (n=atamido@cpe-67-9-173-252.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [22:38:50] * Atamido_ is now known as Atamido
 
- [22:38:51] <jibot> 
Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
 
- [22:39:33] * briansuda (n=briansud@h-68-166-252-239.chcgilgm.covad.net) Quit ()
 
- [22:45:40] * imajes (n=imajes@growl/imajes) Quit ()
 
- [23:00:35] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit ("The computer fell asleep")
 
- [23:07:36] * Atamido (n=atamido@cpe-67-9-173-252.austin.res.rr.com) Quit (Connection timed out)
 
- [23:11:44] * cgriego (n=cgriego@e2.87.5d45.static.theplanet.com) Quit ()
 
- [23:12:19] * imajes (n=imajes@cpc2-ware3-0-0-cust617.lutn.cable.ntl.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [23:24:14] * imajes (n=imajes@growl/imajes) Quit ()
 
- [23:24:50] * imajes (n=imajes@growl/imajes) has joined #microformats
 
- [23:24:50] * imajes (n=imajes@growl/imajes) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
 
- [23:24:56] * kingryan (n=kingryan@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ()
 
- [23:27:04] * imajes (n=imajes@cpc2-ware3-0-0-cust617.lutn.cable.ntl.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [23:31:18] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@63.98.55.146) Quit ()
 
- [23:37:27] * BenjaminCarlyle (n=fuzzy@c210-49-74-2.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) has joined #microformats
 
- [23:37:28] <jibot> 
BenjaminCarlyle is http://soundadvice.id.au/blog/, GMT 1000
 
- [23:45:12] * Atamido_ (n=atamido@cpe-67-9-173-252.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [23:45:22] * Atamido_ is now known as Atamido
 
- [23:46:43] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@63.98.55.146) has joined #microformats
 
- [23:48:35] * imajes (n=imajes@growl/imajes) Quit ()
 
- [23:48:56] * imajes (n=imajes@cpc2-ware3-0-0-cust617.lutn.cable.ntl.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [23:49:22] * imajes (n=imajes@growl/imajes) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
 
- [23:50:57] * imajes (n=imajes@growl/imajes) has joined #microformats
 
- [23:51:27] * csarven (i=nevrasc@modemcable153.95-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) Quit ()
 
- [23:57:25] * briansuda (n=briansud@ACA65B10.ipt.aol.com) has joined #microformats
 
- [23:57:26] <jibot> 
briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
 
- [23:57:26] * ChanServ sets mode +o briansuda 
 
- [23:59:57] * imajes (n=imajes@growl/imajes) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
 
These logs were automatically created by mflogbot on
chat.freenode.net
using a modified version of the Java IRC LogBot.
See http://microformats.org/wiki/mflogbot for more information.