IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-10-02

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  3. [00:08:06] <mfbot> [[currency-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=9149 * Guillaume Lebleu * (+1636) XBRL -
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  6. [00:32:38] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  13. [01:45:50] <mfbot> [[currency-formats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=9150 * Lachlan Hunt * (+0) XBRL - Fixed URI for XBRL site.
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  18. [02:52:00] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  23. [04:47:47] <mfbot> [[profile-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=profile-examples&diff=0&oldid=9151 * Lachlan Hunt * (+443) Examples in the Wild -
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  26. [05:11:54] <veeliam_> so is this serious: http://microformats.org/wiki/profile-examples
  27. [05:12:13] <veeliam_> adult match maker in AU is using microformats?
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  30. [05:17:18] <jibot> veeliam is William Lawrence of Quiddities Dev out of Santa Cruz
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  33. [05:30:11] <jibot> Cloud is http://www.johnbreslin.com/
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  35. [05:53:01] <veeliam> so has anyone looked at http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=9150
  36. [05:53:30] <veeliam> Examples in the Wild links?
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  42. [06:41:32] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  45. [06:51:37] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  50. [07:15:09] <jibot> Cloud is http://www.johnbreslin.com/
  51. [07:19:12] <mfbot> [[irc]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc&diff=0&oldid=9152 * Cloud * (+25)
  52. [07:19:38] <mfbot> [[irc]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc&diff=0&oldid=9153 * Cloud * (+6) People on irc -
  53. [07:26:04] <mfbot> [[User:Cloud]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Cloud * Cloud * (+1508)
  54. [07:26:25] <mfbot> [[User:Cloud]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Cloud&diff=0&oldid=9154 * Cloud * (-1)
  55. [07:26:46] <Cloud> Quick question - is it mf or uf? :)
  56. [07:27:21] <bengee> mf or µf
  57. [07:28:00] <Cloud> Hi bengee :)
  58. [07:28:09] <bengee> heya :)
  59. [07:28:15] <Cloud> Haven't seen you in a bit
  60. [07:28:49] <bengee> yeah, true..
  61. [07:29:20] <bengee> saw you're doing nice graphs once again
  62. [07:29:55] <Cloud> Trying to anyway
  63. [07:34:39] <Cloud> :)
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  66. [08:02:06] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  71. [08:21:19] <CaptSolo> /win 19
  72. [08:21:24] <CaptSolo> ups :)
  73. [08:23:06] <Cloud> CaptSolo for the win
  74. [08:34:30] * Atamido wants to win.
  75. [08:35:40] <Atamido> Cloud: I am almost certain it is "mf" as "microformat" is more of a proper noun than a description of the size of the format.
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  77. [08:36:32] <Cloud> Okay, good point - maybe someone should update the mailing list acronym
  78. [08:36:37] <Atamido> Besides, "muff" is more fun to say than "uoof".
  79. [08:37:11] <Cloud> :D
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  82. [08:49:38] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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  84. [09:11:19] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  92. [10:18:26] <mfbot> [[profile-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=profile-examples&diff=0&oldid=9155 * Lachlan Hunt * (+43) Examples in the Wild - Added When2Date
  93. [10:19:27] <mfbot> [[profile-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=profile-examples&diff=0&oldid=9156 * Lachlan Hunt * (+37) Contributors -
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  107. [11:26:56] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  112. [11:49:19] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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  124. [12:41:16] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  129. [13:07:14] <jibot> Cloud is http://www.johnbreslin.com/
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  134. [13:18:10] <jibot> edsu is Ed Summers from the Library of Congress <http://www.inkdroid.org>
  135. [13:32:29] <mearso> Hi all
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  137. [13:33:23] <jibot> Cloud_ is Cloud
  138. [13:35:31] <mearso> Is anyone aware of a problem with the Tails extension adding a time to events, when viewed in the object view?
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  170. [15:12:26] <jibot> evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
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  173. [15:21:06] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  175. [15:24:32] <jibot> veeliam is William Lawrence of Quiddities Dev out of Santa Cruz
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  182. [15:34:47] <veeliam> The "Examples in the Wild" on the Profile Examples wiki page lists AdultMatchMaker Austrailia. Is this serious? http://microformats.org/wiki/profile-examples
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  184. [15:36:31] <jibot> Cloud is http://www.johnbreslin.com/
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  187. [15:43:51] <jibot> evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
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  191. [16:03:36] <mfbot> [[profile]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/profile * AndyMabbett * (+30) redirect
  192. [16:04:42] <mfbot> [[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9157 * AndyMabbett * (+116) Quantitative evidence -
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  195. [16:12:08] <jibot> Cloud is http://www.johnbreslin.com/
  196. [16:24:38] <mfbot> [[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9158 * AndyMabbett * (+272) Notable websites - US Govt
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  202. [16:43:27] <csarven> http://www.paintercreativity.com/articles/top-10-lies.html
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  206. [16:52:33] <briansuda> uhg, when will folks learn... APML (http://www.touchstonelive.com/apml/) NAXF (not another xml format)
  207. [16:54:42] <bewest> what does APML hope to do?
  208. [16:55:13] <briansuda> from the site: The idea is to boil down all forms of Attention Data – including Browser History, OPML, Attention.XML, Email etc – to a portable file format containing a description of ranked user interests.
  209. [16:55:36] <briansuda> sounds like lists of lists to me... xoxo?
  210. [16:56:22] <bewest> hmmm
  211. [16:56:52] <bewest> briansuda: have you used xhtml for data?
  212. [16:57:09] <briansuda> sure, it is just XML
  213. [16:57:39] <bewest> do you have any examples I can look at? I've been experimenting with xhtml as a format for non-document centric data
  214. [16:57:42] <briansuda> and is there even a problem to be solved with Attention Data? - they must think so?
  215. [16:57:53] <bewest> and I posted on the list, and so did someone else
  216. [16:58:18] <bewest> gah be back later... meeting
  217. [16:58:28] <briansuda> i'll see if i can dig something up that i can show
  218. [17:02:50] <Atamido> If it is non-document centric data, why use xhtml?
  219. [17:03:30] <briansuda> because data can still be pulled into HTML to be viewed easily
  220. [17:03:56] <briansuda> i can publish weather data in some crazy weatherXML format, or i can published it with divs and classes and just slurp it straight into HTML
  221. [17:04:51] <briansuda> at the end of the day, if it is internal, then you can use what ever format you want, but if you are PUBLISHING, then you should seriously consider using a "viewable" format - you get loads of "bonuses" for free
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  244. [19:31:12] <drewinthehead> hello peoples of the internet
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  246. [19:38:59] <veeliam> howdy ya'll!
  247. [19:39:15] <drewinthehead> hi veeliam. how goes?
  248. [19:39:17] <kingryan_> hi veeliam
  249. [19:39:49] <veeliam> it goes well.
  250. [19:40:29] <veeliam> i was watching the wiki logs last night and i noticed the profiles examples updated. did anyone else look at that?
  251. [19:40:36] <veeliam> or am i just being prude?
  252. [19:41:10] <veeliam> here's the link: http://microformats.org/wiki/profile-examples
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  254. [19:43:31] <drewinthehead> the dating site, veeliam?
  255. [19:43:38] <drewinthehead> i don't spot a profile in there
  256. [19:44:47] <veeliam> yea. at first i was confused when i saw that.
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  258. [19:44:55] <drewinthehead> ah, user profiles, not mf profiles
  259. [19:45:51] <veeliam> yea. those are examples in the wild of what to look at for ideas on making standards for profiles
  260. [19:46:45] <drewinthehead> well, take it on face value, i say. they have a microid in there, so chances are it's not just spam.
  261. [19:47:00] <veeliam> so my question is, is that a legitimate example to shoot towards? when i first looked at it i thought that it was added as
  262. [19:47:10] <veeliam> spam
  263. [19:47:38] <drewinthehead> an example is an example - i guess the filtering stage comes a bit further down the road
  264. [19:48:51] <veeliam> got it.
  265. [19:49:22] <mfbot> [[hcard-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-parsing&diff=0&oldid=9160 * RyanKing * (-12) removing spurious mailto:
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  273. [21:48:21] <mfbot> [[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9161 * AndyMabbett * (+172) Notable websites - UK Govt
  274. [21:53:07] <mfbot> [[distributed-conversation-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=distributed-conversation-formats&diff=0&oldid=9162 * Cloud * (+199) Microformats and SIOC
  275. [21:54:28] <Cloud> kingryan_ - of interest to you :)
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  277. [22:29:01] <mfbot> [[chat-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=chat-formats&diff=0&oldid=4663 * ChristopherStJohn * (+12777)
  278. [22:29:02] <mfbot> [[hatom]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom&diff=0&oldid=4664 * RyanKing * (-21663) Entry Permalink - removing some cruft
  279. [22:29:03] <mfbot> [[examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=examples&diff=0&oldid=4665 * Tantek * (+57) moved "not formats" to "not" section under "Behavior"
  280. [22:29:04] <mfbot> [[hreview-faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-faq&diff=0&oldid=4666 * Tantek * (+1996) use tags for stocks also
  281. [22:29:05] <mfbot> [[chat-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=chat-examples&diff=0&oldid=4667 * ChristopherStJohn * (+8337)
  282. [22:29:06] <mfbot> [[chat-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=chat-formats&diff=0&oldid=4668 * ChristopherStJohn * (+8534)
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  284. [22:29:12] <mfbot> [[chat-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=chat-examples&diff=0&oldid=4670 * ChristopherStJohn * (+9356)
  285. [22:29:14] <tantek> whoa
  286. [22:29:16] <mfbot> [[using-utf-8]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=using-utf-8&diff=0&oldid=4671 * Tantek * (+136) HTML -
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  288. [22:31:49] * pnhChris nodes in agreement with KevinMarks over the geo stuff on the list
  289. [22:32:10] <pnhChris> nods too, even
  290. [22:32:23] <KevinMarks> do the nodes have a radius ;)
  291. [22:34:16] <pnhChris> sure, but i couldn't say its a full circle, my head only moves a fixed number of degrees, and in this case nodding only along one particular plane
  292. [22:34:25] <pnhChris> so i'd have to define all that for you too :P
  293. [22:35:06] <pnhChris> with some fuzzyness because i don't know if my head was perfectly straight or slightly cocked to one side
  294. [22:36:18] <KevinMarks> if I wanted to troll, I'd have said 'we need 6 degrees of freedom for geo views - look at Google Earth and MS flight simulator'
  295. [22:37:44] <pnhChris> my problem is that I don't think its purely a zoom factor measurement
  296. [22:37:47] <pnhChris> mostly
  297. [22:37:59] <pnhChris> but that's a usability issue perhaps more then a format one
  298. [22:38:16] <KevinMarks> well, radius of interest is the useful worldspace parameter
  299. [22:38:46] <KevinMarks> which is readily derived from any given mapping tool (especially as it is really an order-of-magnitude parameter)
  300. [22:44:20] <pnhChris> what i kinda would love to see, from a user side, is not the option to zoom necessarily to control precision, because that runs into too many issues both of too large a jump in factors but also a loss of relationship to other points in the area.. but instead one more like the ability to define precision by "brush size" type option
  301. [22:45:14] <pnhChris> how that data is stored I have not put any thought to
  302. [22:45:52] <pnhChris> or how it difference from measuring precision based on zoom factor / significant digits of the known center of that blob
  303. [22:47:14] <KevinMarks> well, flickr's way of dragging onto a known zoom isn't bad
  304. [22:47:30] <pnhChris> the difference between saying "i was right here" or "i was 50-100 feet from around here"
  305. [22:47:31] <pnhChris> right
  306. [22:47:54] <pnhChris> but you can't zoom out to drop a less known position in between 2 known ones
  307. [22:48:18] <pnhChris> which i find happens rather often when i'm shooting along a trail
  308. [22:48:38] <KevinMarks> because of snap-to?
  309. [22:48:49] <pnhChris> yes, mostly
  310. [22:49:11] <pnhChris> but also because i want to influence it more then that
  311. [22:49:16] <pnhChris> because i know "about" where i was
  312. [22:49:25] <pnhChris> or somewhere on a line between A & B
  313. [22:50:08] <pnhChris> let me hit an example
  314. [22:50:13] <KevinMarks> no, I get it
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  316. [22:50:47] <KevinMarks> my point is that radius of interest is sufficient
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  318. [22:51:13] <pnhChris> http://flickr.com/map/?&user_id=93007059@N00&fLat=40.729451&fLon=-74.304334&zl=2
  319. [22:51:37] <pnhChris> the dots on the road and the pond are a lot more accurate then the ones in the 'woods' / green blob
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  321. [22:53:12] <pnhChris> though they're all positioned well in relation to each other.. i'd just want to be able to distinguish the fudged ones / ones that can't be dropped into a GPS device and visited to recreate the photo from ones that can be
  322. [22:54:31] <pnhChris> and upon repeat visits or other people visiting and marking photos in the area the precision that comes from the relationship of one to the other goes down hill as well
  323. [22:55:57] <KevinMarks> http://flickr.com/photos/tags/route66/map/
  324. [22:56:45] <whack> KevinMarks: Were you at the hackday demo session? I didn't see you come back on saturday.
  325. [22:56:56] <KevinMarks> I didn't come back on saturday, no
  326. [22:57:11] <whack> aah. You missed me do a live demo of the delicious file system.
  327. [22:57:15] <KevinMarks> my boys' soccer match was midday
  328. [22:57:17] <KevinMarks> cool
  329. [22:57:21] <KevinMarks> I saw the blogpost
  330. [22:57:37] <KevinMarks> you going to their BBQ tomorrow?
  331. [22:57:46] <KevinMarks> how did it go down?
  332. [22:57:53] <whack> hadn't heard about the bbq
  333. [22:57:58] <pnhChris> exactly kevin... landmarks can easily be joined.. but there's less precision in the open areas of the road..
  334. [22:58:13] <whack> most folks thought it was neat, one of the judges questioned the morality of it.
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  336. [22:58:32] <pnhChris> (btw, that's a really cool flickr maps example)
  337. [22:59:12] <KevinMarks> it could be a bit smarter about things, like putting the centroid of the tags in the centre of teh screen so zooming worked
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  339. [23:02:49] <KevinMarks> http://flickr.com/map/?&tag=willowglen&fLat=37.297467&fLon=-121.915969&zl=5&map_type=hyb
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  341. [23:08:17] <pnhChris> http://flickr.com/map/?&tag=yankeestadium&fLat=40.828081&fLon=-73.920821&zl=7
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  344. [23:09:04] <pnhChris> i like the photo at the bottom of manhattan
  345. [23:09:12] <pnhChris> (in my current view)
  346. [23:09:35] <pnhChris> http://flickr.com/photos/audunbakkeandersen/155040754/
  347. [23:10:31] <pnhChris> brings up all sorts of good geotagging/photo description fun
  348. [23:10:51] <pnhChris> 'taken form somwhere over manhattan of this specific place in the bronx'
  349. [23:11:01] <pnhChris> ;)
  350. [23:13:39] <KevinMarks> right, the 'taken of' vs 'taken from' distinction is interesting - you can see that here:
  351. [23:13:40] <KevinMarks> http://flickr.com/map/?&tag=yankeestadium&fLat=40.825621&fLon=-73.931078&zl=2&map_type=hyb
  352. [23:14:12] <pnhChris> and i'd add "taken near" to the list
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  354. [23:27:12] <bewest> "taken of"
  355. [23:27:17] <bewest> ?
  356. [23:27:27] <bewest> "representing" or "is"
  357. [23:28:05] <pnhChris> the object being photographed vs. the photographers position
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  360. [23:39:32] <pnhChris> another 'fun' one... http://flickr.com/map/?&tag=statueofliberty&fLat=40.677095&fLon=-74.05197&zl=5
  361. [23:42:21] <KevinMarks> the zl doesn't always update
  362. [23:42:25] <KevinMarks> I notice
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  364. [23:45:49] <pnhChris> all this playing around in flickr.. i could be doing something productive.. like playing around in lightroom
  365. [23:46:00] <pnhChris> :P
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