IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-11-17
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- [00:16:40] <tantek>
bewest - didn't see the microformats mention in that architecturejournal article
- [00:16:51] <tantek>
could you paste a quote about microformats from that article?
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- [00:38:37] <bewest>
yeah
- [00:38:38] <bewest>
maybe
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- [00:44:06] <bewest>
tantek: The considerable variety of data these days includes an extensive array of XML-based formats, as well as increasingly widespread, lighter weight data formats such as the JavaScript Object Notation (JSON) and microformats.
- [00:44:16] <bewest>
http://www.architecturejournal.net/2006/issue8/F5_Patterns/default.aspx
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- [00:44:49] <tantek>
awesome
- [00:45:02] <tantek>
bewest, could you add that to http://microformats.org/wiki/press ?
- [00:45:11] <tantek>
including the quote
- [00:45:32] <bewest>
the quote...
- [00:45:36] <bewest>
doesn't seem too meaninful
- [00:46:23] <bewest>
hmm how to do quotes?
- [00:49:30] <bewest>
the bot down?
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- [00:49:50] <bewest>
tantek: done :-)
- [00:51:07] <tantek>
thanks bewest
- [00:51:19] <tantek>
ok - someone please ping RyanKing when you see him pop back on here about mfbot
- [00:51:31] <tantek>
i'm just now getting to block/clearing some spam i didn't see before
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- [01:28:01] <jibot>
remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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- [03:50:55] <BobJonkman>
Hi all: I've got a question on "appropriate links" on the Wiki...
- [03:52:50] <BobJonkman>
I updated the http://microformats.org/wiki/genealogy page today to add links to the authoritative (normative?) definitions for the GEDCOM format. I see that some other links have been added for genealogy software, but I fail to see the applicability to microformats. I'd delete them, but don't want to get into an edit war
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- [04:26:18] <BobJonkman>
...And, while we're in this hotbed of activity: I want to submit one or two genealogy brainstorming ideas. Should I just add a new section the the existing page, or should I create a new page? Seems wasteful, somehow.
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- [04:55:21] <jibot>
Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
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- [05:02:54] <Lachy>
tantek, as I promised, I've started proving more feedback about the hCard spec on the hcard-feedback page
- [05:03:46] <Lachy>
oh, I see tantek has quit! oh well.
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- [06:10:27] <Frederic>
morning
- [06:12:27] <Azath0th>
good evening :)
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- [06:40:53] <Lachy>
hey tantek
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- [07:44:40] <kapowaz>
I need an American!
- [07:45:09] <kapowaz>
since the new Kettle Chips beta is only for the US
- [07:45:12] <kapowaz>
http://www.cabel.name/2006/11/kettle-chips-beta.html
- [07:49:18] <cbarrett>
Hey
- [07:49:57] <cbarrett>
Have you guys read the poisonous people article?
- [07:50:14] <cbarrett>
http://www.red-bean.com/dav/presentations/Poisonous-people.pdf
- [07:50:18] <cbarrett>
it's very interesting
- [07:51:54] <cbarrett>
I fear we may have one or two Poisonous Pepole on the lists though :(
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- [09:18:35] <drewinthehead>
hey kapowaz - i just noticed i missed a question from you about bgsleight
- [09:30:50] <kapowaz>
heh, so you did.
- [09:30:52] <kapowaz>
no worries
- [09:30:59] <kapowaz>
turns out I can't use it anyway... I remembered why
- [09:31:11] <kapowaz>
I must have used it in the past and forgotten
- [09:31:36] <kapowaz>
if I use a background image that's bigger or smaller than the target element, it scales to fill that element
- [09:31:57] <kapowaz>
but I use background images like that all over the place, for rollovers etc.
- [09:32:46] <kapowaz>
I went over to a colleague's desk to show him something and suddenly the whole design looked screwed in IE, where only a few minutes earlier it had mostly worked.
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- [09:44:47] <drewinthehead>
there are different scaling modes that you can use
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- [09:46:01] <drewinthehead>
i use a version of the script where i detect the CSS background properties on each element and then change the scaling mode accordingly
- [09:46:43] <drewinthehead>
there's loads of stuff that can be done - but the filter's so unstable i don't like to encourage its use *too* much ;)
- [09:55:25] <McNulty>
someone remind me which wiki page the hCard IM-in-URL examples are on?
- [09:56:00] <McNulty>
never mind, got it
- [09:56:03] <McNulty>
Morning everyone!
- [09:56:43] <kapowaz>
ah, I didn't know that
- [09:56:46] <kapowaz>
well maybe I'll revisit it
- [09:56:53] <kapowaz>
and good morning to you too, McNulty
- [09:57:02] <kapowaz>
it is Children In Need Of A Good Hiding day today
- [09:57:17] <kapowaz>
so we're being all 'charitable' in the office and playing games at lunchtime.
- [09:57:36] <kapowaz>
I have volunteered to host a game of Werewolf, so that should be fun
- [09:57:53] <McNulty>
Is it? Today?
- [09:59:11] <McNulty>
Is xmpp:ciaranmcnulty@gmail.com?message a valid URL value?
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- [10:01:15] <drewinthehead>
morning McNulty
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- [10:28:57] <McNulty>
huh, where's mfbot?
- [10:30:56] <drewinthehead>
hmm ... MIA
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- [11:27:34] <kapowaz>
has anyone seen this? tremendously cool: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/click-to-call-in-google-maps.html
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http://www.valleywag.com/tech/latest-wizardry/prank-calls-from-google-maps-215193.php
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>:)
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- [11:30:08] <kapowaz>
oh man
- [11:30:11] <kapowaz>
that is so good!
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- [14:20:47] <briansuda_>
Google Base 1st Birthday (http://googlebase.blogspot.com/2006/11/happy-birthday-google-base.html) they are asking for suggestions - anyone want to email them about Microformats?
- [14:20:51] <briansuda_>
feedback-base@google.com
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- [15:09:17] <McNulty>
So, I have a page where users can basically post comments, and I thought it'd be an idea to hCard them (they have name + optional email/website).
- [15:09:44] <McNulty>
I'm not sure if I can just put @class="fn" around their names though... what if they do it in a crazy format that doesn't follow the implied-n optimisation
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- [15:15:14] <trovster>
I'm doing that, but using drew's n-optimisation best-guess script
- [15:15:20] <whafro>
good morning folks
- [15:15:37] <McNulty>
trovster - Hm, that's a thought
- [15:15:47] <McNulty>
Is there not a sort of 'I dunno what this is' value I can use?
- [15:16:07] <McNulty>
<span class="n fn"><span class="nickname">Ciaran McNulty</span></span> maybe?
- [15:31:57] <tantek>
McNulty, you should only specify n if you are going to explicitly specify n sub-properties like given-name and family-name
- [15:32:43] <McNulty>
tantek - Hm, ok
- [15:36:15] <tantek>
otherwise you should use the implied n shortcuts
- [15:40:46] <Frederic>
evenign
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- [21:44:49] <DanC>
hmm... it's a plist; anybody done plist2JSON?
- [21:45:21] <DanC>
ew; nasty RTF
- [21:45:54] * DanC has been battling RTF since the late 1980's
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- [21:50:19] * DanC wonders if anybody else sees "Firefox can't find the server at microformats.org" or if it's just me
- [21:50:31] <DanC>
I see quite a few DNS glitches
- [21:52:46] <Phae>
It's working okay for me.
- [21:54:40] <DanC>
hmm... somebody mailed me about XSLT to handle omnioutliner format a while ago, following a discussion on 20 Sep http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2006-09-20
- [21:55:40] * DanC hunts for it...
- [21:55:56] <bewest>
microformats.org. 2400 IN A 69.55.232.130
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- [21:56:10] <DanC>
DNS glitch has passed here
- [21:58:38] <veeliam>
hello all! is there, somewhere, an hCalendar creator like there's an hCard creator?
- [21:59:14] <bewest>
there is
- [21:59:26] <veeliam>
Really?
- [21:59:35] <bewest>
yes
- [21:59:40] <bewest>
afaik there are creators for every microformat
- [21:59:42] <DanC>
dang; firefox crashed when posting to delicious again
- [21:59:54] <bewest>
if there is one missing, I'd consider that a bug
- [21:59:58] <bewest>
fixable by me
- [22:00:43] <Phae>
http://microformats.org/code/hcalendar/creator
- [22:00:53] <veeliam>
thank you Phae.
- [22:01:01] <Phae>
s'alright
- [22:01:12] <bewest>
it's a bit hard to find
- [22:01:12] <bewest>
http://microformats.org/code/hcalendar/creator
- [22:01:13] <bewest>
oh
- [22:01:18] <bewest>
beat me to it!
- [22:01:34] <Phae>
It's not hard to find
- [22:01:34] <veeliam>
i know i did a search and found the comments feed to theryanking's blog
- [22:01:39] <Phae>
Its linked on the main site under code
- [22:02:04] <veeliam>
well, that would be a way to easy approach this type of ordeal
- [22:02:30] <Phae>
It's also linked to in the intro to hCal
- [22:02:35] <Phae>
on the wiki
- [22:03:38] <Phae>
Sorry. I'm tired! It's been a long week :(
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- [22:05:28] <DanC_lap>
hmm... I wonder if the "new file format" of omnioutliner is just XML with no RTF
- [22:06:01] <veeliam>
no problems. really.
- [22:09:58] <Phae>
:)
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