IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-11-17

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  2. [00:16:40] <tantek> bewest - didn't see the microformats mention in that architecturejournal article
  3. [00:16:51] <tantek> could you paste a quote about microformats from that article?
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  7. [00:38:37] <bewest> yeah
  8. [00:38:38] <bewest> maybe
  9. [00:38:47] * bewest rummages around for a minute
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  11. [00:44:06] <bewest> tantek: The considerable variety of data these days includes an extensive array of XML-based formats, as well as increasingly widespread, lighter weight data formats such as the JavaScript Object Notation (JSON) and microformats.
  12. [00:44:16] <bewest> http://www.architecturejournal.net/2006/issue8/F5_Patterns/default.aspx
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  14. [00:44:49] <tantek> awesome
  15. [00:45:02] <tantek> bewest, could you add that to http://microformats.org/wiki/press ?
  16. [00:45:11] <tantek> including the quote
  17. [00:45:32] <bewest> the quote...
  18. [00:45:36] <bewest> doesn't seem too meaninful
  19. [00:46:23] <bewest> hmm how to do quotes?
  20. [00:49:30] <bewest> the bot down?
  21. [00:49:37] * bewest likes seeing his edits show up here
  22. [00:49:50] <bewest> tantek: done :-)
  23. [00:51:07] <tantek> thanks bewest
  24. [00:51:19] <tantek> ok - someone please ping RyanKing when you see him pop back on here about mfbot
  25. [00:51:31] <tantek> i'm just now getting to block/clearing some spam i didn't see before
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  35. [01:28:01] <jibot> remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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  43. [03:50:55] <BobJonkman> Hi all: I've got a question on "appropriate links" on the Wiki...
  44. [03:52:50] <BobJonkman> I updated the http://microformats.org/wiki/genealogy page today to add links to the authoritative (normative?) definitions for the GEDCOM format. I see that some other links have been added for genealogy software, but I fail to see the applicability to microformats. I'd delete them, but don't want to get into an edit war
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  48. [04:26:18] <BobJonkman> ...And, while we're in this hotbed of activity: I want to submit one or two genealogy brainstorming ideas. Should I just add a new section the the existing page, or should I create a new page? Seems wasteful, somehow.
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  51. [04:55:21] <jibot> Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
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  53. [05:02:54] <Lachy> tantek, as I promised, I've started proving more feedback about the hCard spec on the hcard-feedback page
  54. [05:03:46] <Lachy> oh, I see tantek has quit! oh well.
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  58. [06:10:27] <Frederic> morning
  59. [06:12:27] <Azath0th> good evening :)
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  61. [06:40:53] <Lachy> hey tantek
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  69. [07:44:40] <kapowaz> I need an American!
  70. [07:45:09] <kapowaz> since the new Kettle Chips beta is only for the US
  71. [07:45:12] <kapowaz> http://www.cabel.name/2006/11/kettle-chips-beta.html
  72. [07:49:18] <cbarrett> Hey
  73. [07:49:57] <cbarrett> Have you guys read the poisonous people article?
  74. [07:50:14] <cbarrett> http://www.red-bean.com/dav/presentations/Poisonous-people.pdf
  75. [07:50:18] <cbarrett> it's very interesting
  76. [07:51:54] <cbarrett> I fear we may have one or two Poisonous Pepole on the lists though :(
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  82. [09:18:35] <drewinthehead> hey kapowaz - i just noticed i missed a question from you about bgsleight
  83. [09:30:50] <kapowaz> heh, so you did.
  84. [09:30:52] <kapowaz> no worries
  85. [09:30:59] <kapowaz> turns out I can't use it anyway... I remembered why
  86. [09:31:11] <kapowaz> I must have used it in the past and forgotten
  87. [09:31:36] <kapowaz> if I use a background image that's bigger or smaller than the target element, it scales to fill that element
  88. [09:31:57] <kapowaz> but I use background images like that all over the place, for rollovers etc.
  89. [09:32:46] <kapowaz> I went over to a colleague's desk to show him something and suddenly the whole design looked screwed in IE, where only a few minutes earlier it had mostly worked.
  90. [09:32:57] * kapowaz shakes his fist at IE6 yet again
  91. [09:44:47] <drewinthehead> there are different scaling modes that you can use
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  93. [09:46:01] <drewinthehead> i use a version of the script where i detect the CSS background properties on each element and then change the scaling mode accordingly
  94. [09:46:43] <drewinthehead> there's loads of stuff that can be done - but the filter's so unstable i don't like to encourage its use *too* much ;)
  95. [09:55:25] <McNulty> someone remind me which wiki page the hCard IM-in-URL examples are on?
  96. [09:56:00] <McNulty> never mind, got it
  97. [09:56:03] <McNulty> Morning everyone!
  98. [09:56:43] <kapowaz> ah, I didn't know that
  99. [09:56:46] <kapowaz> well maybe I'll revisit it
  100. [09:56:53] <kapowaz> and good morning to you too, McNulty
  101. [09:57:02] <kapowaz> it is Children In Need Of A Good Hiding day today
  102. [09:57:17] <kapowaz> so we're being all 'charitable' in the office and playing games at lunchtime.
  103. [09:57:36] <kapowaz> I have volunteered to host a game of Werewolf, so that should be fun
  104. [09:57:53] <McNulty> Is it? Today?
  105. [09:59:11] <McNulty> Is xmpp:ciaranmcnulty@gmail.com?message a valid URL value?
  106. [09:59:20] * McNulty is reading http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc4622.html
  107. [10:01:15] <drewinthehead> morning McNulty
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  109. [10:28:57] <McNulty> huh, where's mfbot?
  110. [10:30:56] <drewinthehead> hmm ... MIA
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  114. [11:27:34] <kapowaz> has anyone seen this? tremendously cool: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/click-to-call-in-google-maps.html
  115. [11:28:58] <defunkt> http://www.valleywag.com/tech/latest-wizardry/prank-calls-from-google-maps-215193.php
  116. [11:29:04] <defunkt> >:)
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  118. [11:30:08] <kapowaz> oh man
  119. [11:30:11] <kapowaz> that is so good!
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  135. [14:20:47] <briansuda_> Google Base 1st Birthday (http://googlebase.blogspot.com/2006/11/happy-birthday-google-base.html) they are asking for suggestions - anyone want to email them about Microformats?
  136. [14:20:51] <briansuda_> feedback-base@google.com
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  143. [15:09:17] <McNulty> So, I have a page where users can basically post comments, and I thought it'd be an idea to hCard them (they have name + optional email/website).
  144. [15:09:44] <McNulty> I'm not sure if I can just put @class="fn" around their names though... what if they do it in a crazy format that doesn't follow the implied-n optimisation
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  148. [15:15:14] <trovster> I'm doing that, but using drew's n-optimisation best-guess script
  149. [15:15:20] <whafro> good morning folks
  150. [15:15:37] <McNulty> trovster - Hm, that's a thought
  151. [15:15:47] <McNulty> Is there not a sort of 'I dunno what this is' value I can use?
  152. [15:16:07] <McNulty> <span class="n fn"><span class="nickname">Ciaran McNulty</span></span> maybe?
  153. [15:31:57] <tantek> McNulty, you should only specify n if you are going to explicitly specify n sub-properties like given-name and family-name
  154. [15:32:43] <McNulty> tantek - Hm, ok
  155. [15:36:15] <tantek> otherwise you should use the implied n shortcuts
  156. [15:40:46] <Frederic> evenign
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  216. [21:42:15] * DanC finds another reason to do OmnioOutliner<->XOXO ; starts coding...
  217. [21:44:49] <DanC> hmm... it's a plist; anybody done plist2JSON?
  218. [21:45:21] <DanC> ew; nasty RTF
  219. [21:45:54] * DanC has been battling RTF since the late 1980's
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  221. [21:50:19] * DanC wonders if anybody else sees "Firefox can't find the server at microformats.org" or if it's just me
  222. [21:50:31] <DanC> I see quite a few DNS glitches
  223. [21:52:46] <Phae> It's working okay for me.
  224. [21:54:40] <DanC> hmm... somebody mailed me about XSLT to handle omnioutliner format a while ago, following a discussion on 20 Sep http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2006-09-20
  225. [21:55:40] * DanC hunts for it...
  226. [21:55:56] <bewest> microformats.org. 2400 IN A 69.55.232.130
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  228. [21:56:10] <DanC> DNS glitch has passed here
  229. [21:58:38] <veeliam> hello all! is there, somewhere, an hCalendar creator like there's an hCard creator?
  230. [21:59:14] <bewest> there is
  231. [21:59:26] <veeliam> Really?
  232. [21:59:35] <bewest> yes
  233. [21:59:40] <bewest> afaik there are creators for every microformat
  234. [21:59:42] <DanC> dang; firefox crashed when posting to delicious again
  235. [21:59:54] <bewest> if there is one missing, I'd consider that a bug
  236. [21:59:58] <bewest> fixable by me
  237. [22:00:43] <Phae> http://microformats.org/code/hcalendar/creator
  238. [22:00:53] <veeliam> thank you Phae.
  239. [22:01:01] <Phae> s'alright
  240. [22:01:12] <bewest> it's a bit hard to find
  241. [22:01:12] <bewest> http://microformats.org/code/hcalendar/creator
  242. [22:01:13] <bewest> oh
  243. [22:01:18] <bewest> beat me to it!
  244. [22:01:34] <Phae> It's not hard to find
  245. [22:01:34] <veeliam> i know i did a search and found the comments feed to theryanking's blog
  246. [22:01:39] <Phae> Its linked on the main site under code
  247. [22:02:04] <veeliam> well, that would be a way to easy approach this type of ordeal
  248. [22:02:30] <Phae> It's also linked to in the intro to hCal
  249. [22:02:35] <Phae> on the wiki
  250. [22:03:38] <Phae> Sorry. I'm tired! It's been a long week :(
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  252. [22:05:28] <DanC_lap> hmm... I wonder if the "new file format" of omnioutliner is just XML with no RTF
  253. [22:06:01] <veeliam> no problems. really.
  254. [22:09:58] <Phae> :)
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