IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-01-02
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- [00:24:34] <_token>
.../wiki/relpayment-research is bad write
- [00:25:19] <_token>
who writes use "table/td/tr" in layout, and that examples do not have rel="payment" in attribute values
- [00:25:25] <_token>
check it tantek
- [00:25:38] <tantek>
_token - could you please add that criticism inline on the page?
- [00:26:12] <_token>
right, i could
- [00:26:19] <tantek>
much appreciated!
- [00:28:34] <_token>
but how can i start a discussion on article?
- [00:29:21] <tantek>
it's not a discussion. just put comments inline whereever there are problems in the article right next to the problems.
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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[[relpayment-research]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=relpayment-research&diff=0&oldid=12003 * Token * (+352) Amazon Associates -
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i hope be done the right thing
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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[[events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north&diff=0&oldid=12004 * JohnAllsopp * (+576) Summary -
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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Ronnos is Ron Kok, a friendly student Communication and Multimedia Design in The Netherlands
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Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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monkinetic is redmonk/Steve Ivy and can be found at http://redmonk.net
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[[Template:currency-related-pages]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:currency-related-pages * AndyMabbett * (+108)
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[[Template:currency-related-pages]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:currency-related-pages&diff=0&oldid=12005 * AndyMabbett * (+75) fmt
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[[Template:currency-related-pages]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:currency-related-pages&diff=0&oldid=12006 * AndyMabbett * (+9) fmt
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[[currency]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency&diff=0&oldid=12007 * AndyMabbett * (-87) Related pages - made template
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[[currency-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-examples&diff=0&oldid=12008 * AndyMabbett * (-47) related pages
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[[currency-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12009 * AndyMabbett * (+46) Related pages
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[[currency-proposal]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-proposal&diff=0&oldid=12010 * AndyMabbett * (+46) Related pages
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[[currency-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-issues&diff=0&oldid=12011 * AndyMabbett * (+67) Related pages & format last example
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[[currency-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-issues&diff=0&oldid=12012 * AndyMabbett * (+61) fmt
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[[currency-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-issues&diff=0&oldid=12013 * AndyMabbett * (+161) Comment
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[[currency-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12014 * AndyMabbett * (+202) Mike Schinkel - belated response
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[[currency-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12015 * AndyMabbett * (+70) abbr-design-pattern
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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[[tagcloud-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=tagcloud-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12016 * NicolasHoizey * (-1) the root elements -
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[[tagcloud-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=tagcloud-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12017 * NicolasHoizey * (+1) the root elements -
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anyone around to talk about tags?
- [17:46:04] <mkaply>
I'm wondering if I detect errors in a rel="tag" should I use the textContent of the tag (since that seems to be what is happening)
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- [17:56:01] <jibot>
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [17:59:30] <mkaply>
tantek: I just posted this.
- [18:00:05] <mkaply>
re: tags - I'm wondering if I detect errors in a rel="tag" should I use the textContent of the tag (since that seems to happen a fair bit)
- [18:00:12] <mkaply>
so far blogger and wordpress seem to be broke
- [18:00:38] <mkaply>
I'm having trouble drawing the line between being "correct" and giving users what they expect
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RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at> from Austria (TZ: 0100)
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
- [18:30:01] <tantek>
mkaply - being correct is what users expect
- [18:30:28] <tantek>
if implementations are broken, one of the best things to do is to blog about them publicly - give each a separate blog post
- [18:30:43] <mkaply>
ok. So far blogger is broke (on my site at least) and wordpress
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The painful thing is that my blog about microformats doesn't work right in Operator :)
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I'm looking for microformat-loving Wordpress users to test a vote-link plugin... http://redmonk.net/archives/2007/01/02/voteback-update-looking-for-testers/
- [18:34:02] <tantek>
mkaply - I totally understand - you should blog about, and be precise about what is wrong with their implementation
- [18:35:05] <tantek>
also - add their implementation to the appropriate "Implementations" section(s) on the microformats wiki pages for those microformats, and include your list of problems (or link to your blog post!) there as well so that we as a community are aware of which implementations have problems and can apply pressure as a community for those implementations to get fixed!
- [18:43:52] <RobertBachmann>
hello. does anybody know when Brian Suda comes around?
- [18:45:21] <mkaply>
tantek: http://www.kaply.com/weblog/
- [18:47:30] <tantek>
mkaply - thanks!
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[[firefox-extensions]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=firefox-extensions&diff=0&oldid=12018 * AndyMabbett * (+65) Operator - Operator author's blog
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[[rel-tag-faq]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-faq&diff=0&oldid=12019 * AndyMabbett * (+46) Related pages
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- [20:58:47] <BobJonkman>
mkaply, you still around?
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- [21:41:29] <mkaply>
BobJonkman: yep sorry
- [21:42:01] <BobJonkman>
s'allright...
- [21:42:13] <BobJonkman>
Thanx for Operator, first of all...
- [21:43:25] <BobJonkman>
On my hResume it reports a syntax error in vCards for which I have an <object> reference back to the element that contains class="n fn"
- [21:43:47] <BobJonkman>
Is this expected behaviour since hResume isn't supported?
- [21:44:11] <BobJonkman>
example at http://sobac.com/resume
- [21:45:14] <mkaply>
actually, I don't handle object at all. Didn't know about that. So if the fn is empty, and the tagName is object, do a document.getElementById on the date= value and use that fn?
- [21:46:00] <BobJonkman>
Sounds right...
- [21:47:13] <mkaply>
ok. I'll add that now.
- [21:49:19] <BobJonkman>
Of course, I've altered that page to avoid the error. See http://sobac.com/oldindex.htm for actual errors.
- [21:49:50] <mkaply>
ok
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- [21:53:44] <BobJonkman>
And for curious bystanders, have a look at the alternate stylesheet "Visible Microformats" and let me know if it's aesthetically pleasing...
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- [21:57:01] * mkaply things that # sign was totally unnecessary in data
- [21:59:18] <BobJonkman>
the #vcard-name refers to the location of the vcard containing the "n fn" parts.
- [22:00:37] <BobJonkman>
That's documented in http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume#Job_Titles
- [22:00:50] <BobJonkman>
I >think< I've got it right...
- [22:03:57] * mkaply doesn't like the object spec. I think the # should refer to an ID for the other vcard, not for the indivudual items
- [22:04:13] <mkaply>
That would be a much easier spec to follow - "any data you don't get in this vcard, get from this one"
- [22:05:56] <BobJonkman>
I dislike the use of the <object> element, myself. Some browsers from Redmond now refuse to display that, anticipating malicious ActiveX code inside <object></object> element... sigh.
- [22:06:33] <mkaply>
BobJonkman, Your affiliation vcards are wrong, though - they have no fn
- [22:07:30] <BobJonkman>
That's one of the things I repaired with the aid of Operator.
- [22:08:12] <BobJonkman>
If you like, I'll fix "fn" in oldindex.htm as well, but leave the <object> stuff
- [22:08:31] <mkaply>
BobJonkman, nah, that's ok.
- [22:08:51] <mkaply>
I'm really wondering why the object stuff doesn't point back to the entire vcard. I don't understand why the spec has it point to individual items.
- [22:09:22] <mkaply>
That means that you have to have an <object> for each piece of data you want to use from another vcard
- [22:09:54] <mkaply>
vs. a solution where you say "any data you don't find in this vcard, use this other vcard"
- [22:10:47] <mkaply>
the tricky part is that I have no way of knowing what data is in the content that is pointed to by the object.
- [22:11:07] <BobJonkman>
that would be true for any parser
- [22:11:39] <BobJonkman>
so it's a weakness in the specification?
- [22:12:16] <mkaply>
I think so. It makes implementation difficult. Here's my code now: IF I don't find an fn, look for an object. IF there is an object, do a getelementbyid on that ID.
- [22:13:03] <mkaply>
but yet there was nothing about that object that said that the content I was looking for in the other card was an fn
- [22:13:43] <mkaply>
the object tag seems to say "go to this vcard to get the data you need" but it doesn't point to a vcard, it points to an element in the vcard.
- [22:14:44] <BobJonkman>
Perhaps it should be a construct like <object class="include fn" data="#vcard-name">myname</object>
- [22:14:44] <mkaply>
What they are expecting is that you retrieve that node and treat it as if it is a member of your vcard.
- [22:15:09] <mkaply>
but from an implementation point of view, that's non trivial
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- [22:15:45] <BobJonkman>
where the class attribute on <object> has "include" plus the element that needs to be included
- [22:16:32] <mkaply>
that would make it easier. Let me do some thinking on this. MAybe I can just duplicate the node somehow and not have it be present in the document. and use it when I am getting the data for the card
- [22:16:34] <BobJonkman>
mkaply, I presume you're looking at http://microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern ?
- [22:17:13] <mkaply>
BobJonkman: yep
- [22:18:49] <BobJonkman>
I'll summarize our discussion, and add it to http://microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern-feedback
- [22:19:24] <mkaply>
BobJonkman: thanks. For now I'll display the microformats in operator, but I won't be able to populate the data in the microformat yet. I have to think about that
- [22:19:36] <mkaply>
I was planning an operator release tomorrow, so it might wait until the next release
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- [22:21:21] <BobJonkma1>
I hate it when that happens.
- [22:25:10] <mkaply>
yeah. this becomes even tricker.
- [22:25:23] <mkaply>
What if that value was a "value" type combo. hmm. thinking
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- [22:28:42] <mkaply>
OK, got it working.
- [22:28:51] <mkaply>
but I couldn't make it an hresume only thing
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