IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-03-02

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  4. [00:23:42] <jibot> chimezie is Chimezie Ogbuji - He is a mammal
  5. [00:24:19] <mfbot> [[adr-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=adr-examples&diff=0&oldid=13869 * JamesCraig * (+82) removed non-neutral "using address is awkward" comment and added css example to replace the awkward code
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  23. [02:48:43] <jibot> redmonk is Steve Ivy, http://redmonk.net and is linklogging at http://deliciouslymeta.com
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  37. [05:36:43] <mfbot> [[plant-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=plant-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=13871 * ChristopheDucamp * (+65) typo + add bluegrass garden - sync'd
  38. [05:37:14] <mfbot> [[plant-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=plant-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=13872 * ChristopheDucamp * (+0) [http://www.crocus.co.uk/findplant/ Crocus] -
  39. [05:38:00] <mfbot> [[plant-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=plant-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=13873 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) typo
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  42. [06:07:37] <mfbot> [[species-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/species-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+11319) translation in progress - to be continued
  43. [06:32:29] <mfbot> [[species-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-fr&diff=0&oldid=13874 * ChristopheDucamp * (+628) Proposition - translation draft in progress
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  45. [06:35:06] <jibot> Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
  46. [06:37:25] <mfbot> [[species-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-fr&diff=0&oldid=13875 * ChristopheDucamp * (+135) Taxonomies existantes -
  47. [06:40:01] <mfbot> [[species-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-fr&diff=0&oldid=13876 * ChristopheDucamp * (+12) Contributeurs & Supporters -
  48. [06:40:32] <mfbot> [[species-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-fr&diff=0&oldid=13877 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) Voir aussi -
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  50. [06:42:18] <mfbot> [[Template:species-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:species-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+574) à localiser
  51. [06:45:15] <mfbot> [[plant-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/plant-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+31) redirect plan-examples-fr
  52. [07:02:16] <mfbot> [[adr-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=adr-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=13878 * ChristopheDucamp * (+59) sync'd
  53. [07:14:58] <mfbot> [[to-do-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do-fr&diff=0&oldid=13879 * ChristopheDucamp * (+138) add [[species-examples-fr]] to be sync'd
  54. [07:15:24] <mfbot> [[to-do-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do-fr&diff=0&oldid=13880 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) hListing (proposition) -
  55. [07:24:50] <mfbot> [[to-do]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=13881 * ChristopheDucamp * (+185) Christophe Ducamp (french localization) - updating
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  59. [07:43:02] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  61. [08:10:38] <mfbot> [[hresume]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume&diff=0&oldid=13882 * BradT * (+223)
  62. [08:18:29] <mfbot> [[User:BradT]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:BradT * BradT * (+554)
  63. [08:21:55] <mfbot> [[User:BradT]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:BradT&diff=0&oldid=13883 * BradT * (+92)
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  67. [08:39:13] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  72. [08:58:06] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  74. [08:58:17] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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  78. [09:05:21] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  82. [09:10:24] <jibot> davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
  83. [09:11:54] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Phae * (+0) blocked "User:TehLiqE" with an expiry time of never: vandalism
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  96. [10:23:41] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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  100. [10:56:39] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  104. [11:05:32] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  111. [11:39:46] <mfbot> [[species-examples-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=13884 * ChristopheDucamp * (+15863) content sync'd -> to be translated
  112. [11:40:22] <mfbot> [[species-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=13885 * ChristopheDucamp * (+5) Unspecified species -
  113. [11:44:03] <mfbot> [[species-examples-quantitative-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/species-examples-quantitative-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+13996)
  114. [11:46:49] <mfbot> [[species-examples-regrouped-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/species-examples-regrouped-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+13850) A traduire
  115. [12:12:41] <mfbot> [[species-examples-quantitative]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-quantitative&diff=0&oldid=13886 * AndyMabbett * (+443) Evidence - List of Prokaryotic (Bacterial) names (>2,000)
  116. [12:22:22] <mfbot> [[species-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-fr&diff=0&oldid=13887 * ChristopheDucamp * (+0)
  117. [12:29:38] <mfbot> [[species-brainstorming-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/species-brainstorming-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+49435) [fr:species-brainstorming reste à traduire]
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  123. [12:55:31] <mfbot> [[species-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13888 * ChristopheDucamp * (+473) Proposition Epouvantail -
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  125. [13:08:01] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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  127. [13:14:57] <mfbot> [[hproduct-feedback]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hproduct-feedback&diff=0&oldid=13889 * Etoastw * (+80)
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  133. [14:20:46] <jibot> edsu is Ed Summers from the Library of Congress <http://www.inkdroid.org>
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  136. [14:27:31] <mfbot> [[species-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13890 * ChristopheDucamp * (+182) Proposition -
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  139. [14:29:20] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  142. [14:46:43] <mfbot> [[species-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13891 * ChristopheDucamp * (+527) translation to be continued
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  144. [14:55:55] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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  150. [15:25:23] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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  155. [15:33:26] <mfbot> [[hresume-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-fr&diff=0&oldid=13892 * ChristopheDucamp * (+219)
  156. [15:37:52] <mfbot> [[User:JeremyBoggs]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:JeremyBoggs&diff=0&oldid=13893 * JeremyBoggs * (+210)
  157. [15:38:23] <mfbot> [[User:JeremyBoggs]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:JeremyBoggs&diff=0&oldid=13894 * JeremyBoggs * (+23)
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  159. [15:41:24] <jibot> SamRose is found at http://smartmobs.com, http://communitywiki.org, http://blog.p2pfoundation.com, http://barcampbank.com, and http://cooperationcommons.com
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  165. [15:52:49] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  186. [17:21:48] <mkaply> anyone have example xpath for "nearest in parent" that's not terribly expensive?
  187. [17:22:26] * mkaply wonders if hatom2atom xsl has that
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  191. [17:25:53] <mkaply> <xsl:when test="extension:node-set($elements)/descendant::xhtml:address[contains(concat(' ',normalize-space(@class),' '),' author ')]">
  192. [17:25:53] <mkaply> −
  193. [17:25:53] <mkaply> <xsl:for-each select="extension:node-set($elements)/descendant::xhtml:address[contains(concat(' ',normalize-space(@class),' '),' author ')][1]">
  194. [17:25:53] <mkaply> −
  195. [17:25:54] <mkaply> <xsl:for-each select="descendant-or-self::xhtml:*[contains(concat(' ',normalize-space(@class),' '),' vcard ')]">
  196. [17:25:57] <mkaply> −
  197. [17:25:59] <mkaply> <author>
  198. [17:26:01] <mkaply> <xsl:call-template name="vcard"/>
  199. [17:26:03] <mkaply> </author>
  200. [17:26:05] <mkaply> </xsl:for-each>
  201. [17:26:07] <mkaply> </xsl:for-each>
  202. [17:26:11] <mkaply> </xsl:when>
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  204. [17:26:32] <mkaply> that finds the first address in the document, doesn't it?
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  208. [17:31:27] <mkaply> briansuda: In XPath, how do you say "ancestor that contains an address element"
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  210. [17:34:02] <briansuda_> ancestor::address
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  212. [17:34:17] <briansuda_> or ancestor::*//address
  213. [17:35:34] <mkaply> is this even remotely lcose then
  214. [17:35:37] <mkaply> var xpathExpression = "ancestor::*[address and contains(concat(' ', @class, ' '), ' author ')]";
  215. [17:36:00] * mkaply so doesn't know XPath. Lots of copying and pasting
  216. [17:38:31] <briansuda_> node() = 'address'
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  222. [17:59:32] <mkaply> anyone see the error here:
  223. [17:59:33] <mkaply> var xpathExpression = "ancestor::*[(node() = address) and contains(concat(' ', @class, ' '), ' author ')]";
  224. [17:59:42] <mkaply> var xpathExpression = "ancestor::*[node() = address]"; is working to find the address...
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  228. [18:28:25] <briansuda_> "address" needs to be quoted
  229. [18:31:40] <mkaply> briansuda: so ancestor::*[node() = 'address'] says find the first ancestor that has a child node that is an address
  230. [18:32:04] <mkaply> doesn't that "and contains" actually apply to the ancestor node, not the result of the node() = ?
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  232. [18:33:14] <briansuda_> no, that will find all of them... for-each ... or you need to add [1] to the end of the XPath
  233. [18:34:01] <briansuda_> it is an AND so the contains is on the node()
  234. [18:34:27] <briansuda_> it has to be A) an ancestor, B) node() = address AND C) contain class of author
  235. [18:35:24] <mkaply> hmm. I tried var xpathExpression = "ancestor::*[contains(concat(' ', @class, ' '), ' vcard ')]"; and it's not finding it in this case either, so must be something more interesting
  236. [18:36:01] <briansuda_> i use ancestors in the GEO xslt to find a vcard, then go back down that tree to find the FN
  237. [18:36:11] <mkaply> briansuda: that's what I do as well
  238. [18:36:13] <briansuda_> so it is ancestors and decensands of that ancestor...
  239. [18:36:42] <briansuda_> you should cut and paste that XPath and see if it works, because i know it does with xsltproc
  240. [18:37:30] <briansuda_> mkaply, are you on OSX
  241. [18:37:43] * mkaply would love to get to the point where his XPath wasn't trial and error
  242. [18:37:52] <mkaply> briansuda: No, but I have access to one
  243. [18:38:12] <briansuda_> there is a really good app to test Xpath easily
  244. [18:38:18] * briansuda_ finds link
  245. [18:38:52] <briansuda_> http://www.ditchnet.org/aquaxsl/ might help?
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  247. [18:39:17] <AGraf```> !
  248. [18:39:21] <AGraf```> cheers
  249. [18:39:39] <AGraf```> didn't know about that app
  250. [18:39:44] <briansuda_> actually, this one: http://www.ditchnet.org/aquapath/
  251. [18:39:52] <briansuda_> this is XPath, the other was XSLT
  252. [18:40:20] <mkaply> specify the context node. Ah. I think I'm going to cry. That's what want
  253. [18:40:22] * AGraf``` needs xslt anyway
  254. [18:40:32] * mkaply hopes his wife won't mind him installing that on her computer
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  256. [18:41:30] <briansuda_> it isn't an install, just a drag and drop, double click and use.
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  258. [18:41:41] <briansuda_> drag to trash when done
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  261. [18:41:46] <AGraf```> ... as with all osx apps
  262. [18:41:48] * mkaply loves that about Macs
  263. [18:41:59] <AGraf```> you can even use it from the disk image :)
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  266. [18:50:15] <mkaply> not working on my wife's 10.3 mac. bummer
  267. [18:50:49] <mkaply> briansuda: Now that I think about it, ancestor::*[contains(concat(' ', @class, ' '), ' vcard ')] isn't right, is it?
  268. [18:50:54] <mkaply> address isn't an ancestor
  269. [18:50:57] <mkaply> The address that is
  270. [18:51:01] <mkaply> It's a child of the ancestor
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  272. [18:51:42] <mkaply> the ancestor is the root document which has a child of "address"
  273. [18:52:04] <briansuda_> what do you mean root document?
  274. [18:52:11] <briansuda_> the root is just '/'
  275. [18:52:13] <mkaply> briansuda: In my case, root HTML
  276. [18:52:24] <mkaply> briansuda: not being clear
  277. [18:52:24] <briansuda_> you are looking for the first instance of 'address'?
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  279. [18:52:52] <mkaply> if the Entry Author is missing
  280. [18:52:52] <mkaply> * find the Nearest In Parent <address> element(s) with class name author and that is/are a valid hCard
  281. [18:53:23] <mkaply> I'm trying to execute a nearest in parent with XPath
  282. [18:53:29] <briansuda_> hm... ok
  283. [18:54:07] <briansuda_> i'm not sure if you do 'ancestor::*' that is finding from the HTML element down, or the current element up
  284. [18:54:56] <epeus> hCard question
  285. [18:55:54] <epeus> is <span class="street-address">8515 E Anderson</span> equivalent to <span class="street-address">8515</span><span class="street-address"> E Anderson</span>
  286. [18:56:18] <epeus> ie do street-address classes concatenate?
  287. [18:56:54] <mkaply> no, they don't
  288. [18:57:03] <briansuda_> values concatenate
  289. [18:57:03] <mkaply> If you want them to concatenate, you would use values
  290. [18:57:19] <epeus> so how would that look?
  291. [18:57:26] <briansuda_> (there are weird things with multiple street-addresses, they are comma seperated)
  292. [18:57:42] <epeus> ah
  293. [18:57:51] <briansuda_> <span class="street-address"> ... </span>
  294. [18:57:53] <mkaply> <span class="street-address"><span class="value">8515</span>you could have stuff here that wasn't in the address<span class="value"> E Anderson</span>
  295. [18:57:58] <briansuda_> there you go
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  304. [19:05:11] <mkaply> briansuda: the issue is something like this:
  305. [19:05:12] <mkaply> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4402
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  307. [19:05:21] <mkaply> If the hentry is the current node, what is the xpath to get the address
  308. [19:05:25] <mkaply> ummer
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  310. [19:05:28] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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  312. [19:05:47] <mkaply> briansuda: did you get any of that?
  313. [19:06:01] <briansuda> nope
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  315. [19:06:15] <mkaply> briansuda: the issue is something like this
  316. [19:06:15] <mkaply> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4402
  317. [19:06:21] <mkaply> sorry
  318. [19:06:21] <mkaply> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4403
  319. [19:06:30] <mkaply> If the hentry is the current node, what is the xpath to get the address
  320. [19:06:54] <briansuda> hm... ok
  321. [19:07:08] <briansuda> to find the FIRST address you could do...
  322. [19:07:11] <briansuda> /address[1]
  323. [19:07:20] <briansuda> "//address[1]"
  324. [19:07:39] <briansuda> and check that it is an hCard with the usual class contains
  325. [19:07:57] <briansuda> the "//" just says start at the root and find a child called 'address;
  326. [19:08:04] <briansuda> but you need to find the 'nearest'?
  327. [19:08:04] <mkaply> actually, what I want is the first parent that has an address in it
  328. [19:08:08] <mkaply> yep.
  329. [19:08:14] <mkaply> ancestor does go bottom up
  330. [19:08:27] <mkaply> So it would be - go through the ancestors, look for one that has an address node and check to see if it has author
  331. [19:09:05] <briansuda> well that depends on the definition of 'nearest'
  332. [19:09:19] <briansuda> what if you have a sibling node to the hentry
  333. [19:09:26] <briansuda> the child of that is the address
  334. [19:09:36] <briansuda> so that is close, side-ways and down
  335. [19:09:47] <briansuda> is that closer than sibling and up?
  336. [19:10:01] <mkaply> http://microformats.org/wiki/algorithm-nearest-in-parent
  337. [19:10:02] <briansuda> or sibling 3-4 brances away
  338. [19:11:02] <briansuda> do you understand that?
  339. [19:11:47] <mkaply> I understand what you are saying. That technically a sibling of the hentry is the "nearest parent"
  340. [19:11:55] <mkaply> I'm not sure that's what they mean here. But you are right
  341. [19:12:21] <briansuda> well it is nearest IN parent
  342. [19:12:30] <mkaply> "I don't write the spec, I just implement them" :)
  343. [19:12:31] <briansuda> so you'd have to use something like...
  344. [19:12:36] <briansuda> ancestor::*
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  347. [19:12:50] <briansuda> that will look-up the branch
  348. [19:12:59] <briansuda> then do a downward look too
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  351. [19:13:22] <briansuda> ancestor::*[decendant-or-self::node() = 'address']
  352. [19:13:37] <briansuda> or ancestor::*//address
  353. [19:13:43] <mkaply> and people were wondering why ianloic was complaining about parsing hatom :)
  354. [19:13:55] <briansuda> so for each ancestor test to see if there is a child node named address
  355. [19:14:03] <briansuda> well, the idea is to make it easy for publishers
  356. [19:14:10] <briansuda> there will be far less parsers than publishers
  357. [19:14:58] <bewest> mkaply: OTOH if you didn't like doing it, you wouldn't do it ;-)
  358. [19:15:22] <mkaply> bewest: It's like a jigsaw puzzle. I CAN'T STOP
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  360. [19:18:24] <mkaply> ancestor::*[descendant-or-self::node() = 'address'] isn't finding anything with the hentry as the selected node in the example from http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4403
  361. [19:18:37] <briansuda> try the other one
  362. [19:18:54] * briansuda wanders off to find food
  363. [19:19:14] <mkaply> that worked
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  365. [19:20:43] <ianloic> *grin*
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  367. [19:21:00] <ianloic> does IE have a decent XPath engine in it?
  368. [19:21:02] * mkaply feels much better now
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  370. [19:21:05] * ianloic doesn't remember.
  371. [19:21:12] <mkaply> ianloic we were debating that yesterday.
  372. [19:21:15] <mkaply> No idea
  373. [19:21:52] <ianloic> my hunch was no, otherwise we'd all just use xpath
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  377. [19:24:49] <mkaply> Now on to entry-title :)
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  381. [19:41:28] <mkaply> briansuda: the short syntax worked
  382. [19:41:39] <briansuda> excellent
  383. [19:41:57] <briansuda> i'm not sure is that is nearest parent or not? if it is a bottom-up search, then it should be
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