IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-04-22

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  3. [00:09:27] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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  7. [00:16:21] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  21. [02:07:15] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  47. [09:12:37] <ddfreyne> I keep reading microformats as mIRCoformats — awful
  48. [09:17:33] <ddfreyne> Uh, what's this about rel="external"? That doesn't make much sense…
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  52. [09:40:25] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  56. [09:45:29] <jibot> AlexanderGraf is a designer and webdeveloper from Innsbruck, Austria who writes on http://www.aetherworld.org/ and works for DERI Innsbruck (http://www.deri.org/)
  57. [09:46:53] <mfbot> [[posh]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=posh&diff=0&oldid=15911 * Tantek * (-142) removed article that contains posh-fud, will move to a posh-fud page
  58. [09:50:23] <ddfreyne> tantek: doesn't the POSH page need a small paragraph explaining what POSH exactly is?
  59. [09:51:49] <ddfreyne> tantek: also, the Why section focuses solely on the acronym, not the idea behind POSH… is that intentional?
  60. [09:52:21] <ddfreyne> (the page says how and why and where, but doesn't even say "POSH is <something>")
  61. [09:52:25] <tantek> it is in progress
  62. [09:52:32] <tantek> i should note that too
  63. [09:52:36] <tantek> it does say
  64. [09:52:41] <tantek> POSH is plain old semantic html
  65. [09:52:49] <tantek> and there is years of defining what is semantic html
  66. [09:52:59] <tantek> this effort is more about organizing and awareness than defining anything new
  67. [09:53:53] <ddfreyne> of course
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  72. [10:12:41] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  74. [10:15:16] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  85. [11:49:49] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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  89. [12:12:17] <jibot> Kilianvalkhof is Kilian Valkhof, he makes websites and blogs at http://kilianvalkhof.com
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  91. [12:57:47] <jibot> Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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  103. [15:03:26] <mfbot> [[User:WebOrganics]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:WebOrganics * WebOrganics * (+72)
  104. [15:27:28] <mfbot> [[posh]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=posh&diff=0&oldid=15912 * Joshua Brewer * (+59) Spread POSH -
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  108. [15:36:05] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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  110. [15:52:55] <mfbot> [[plain-old-xml-considered-harmful]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=plain-old-xml-considered-harmful&diff=0&oldid=15913 * Tantek * (+13) reference POSH
  111. [15:53:51] <mfbot> [[pox]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/pox * Tantek * (+46)
  112. [15:54:02] <mfbot> [[semantic-xml]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/semantic-xml * Tantek * (+46)
  113. [15:57:03] <mfbot> [[posh-fud]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/posh-fud * Tantek * (+707) draft
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  115. [16:04:14] <mfbot> [[posh-issues]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/posh-issues * Tantek * (+786) drafted
  116. [16:10:00] <mfbot> [[posh]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=posh&diff=0&oldid=15914 * Tantek * (+636) moved presentation links from semantic-html page.
  117. [16:10:27] <mfbot> [[semantic-xhtml]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=semantic-xhtml&diff=0&oldid=15915 * Tantek * (-849)
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  120. [16:31:47] <ddfreyne> Bah, usage of <dl> really confuses me — nobody seems to agree on what it's good for
  121. [16:32:06] <tantek> ddfreyne - XOXO defines a pretty good use for it
  122. [16:32:31] <tantek> and the *definition* in HTML4.01 is decent, you just have to ignore the ridiculous example of a *dialog* (which makes no sense)
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  124. [16:33:34] <ddfreyne> tantek: yep, the line about using dl for dialog is most confusing
  125. [16:33:57] <tantek> yeah - that's basically just a bad path to walk down
  126. [16:34:13] <tantek> and because it's only an *example* in the spec, it's non-normative, therefore technically ignorable
  127. [16:34:33] <tantek> and since it contradicts or certainly doesn't fit with the *definition* of <dl> at all, it should be ignored
  128. [16:34:42] * ddfreyne nods
  129. [16:35:07] <ddfreyne> I think I'll simply use <dl> for definition lists for now
  130. [16:35:15] <tantek> precisely
  131. [16:35:47] <ddfreyne> I dislike how HTML5 changes the meaning of <dl>, too
  132. [16:37:09] <tantek> yes, that's a mistake too
  133. [16:37:15] <tantek> lots of folks dislike it
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  135. [16:40:44] <ddfreyne> I was wondering — what exactly is "bad" about <header> (and <footer>) elements in HTML5? class="header" would work equally well, perhaps better, but <header> prevents people from coming up with alternative class names such as "top", "head", "header", "heading", …
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  170. [20:18:40] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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