IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-05-12
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[[faqs-for-rdf]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faqs-for-rdf&diff=0&oldid=16570 * RyanKing * (-56) cleaning up formating (==== -> ==)
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[[parsing-microformats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=parsing-microformats&diff=0&oldid=16571 * RyanKing * (+0) spellcheck
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[[parsing-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=parsing-microformats&diff=0&oldid=16572 * RyanKing * (-462) some editorial and formatting cleanup
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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hi all
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16573 * WebOrganics * (+4119)
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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anyone around handy with photoshop?
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[[hcard-parsing-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-parsing-fr&diff=0&oldid=16574 * ChristopheDucamp * (+520) sync'd
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[[parsing-microformats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=parsing-microformats-fr&diff=0&oldid=16575 * ChristopheDucamp * (+295) sync'd
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[[compound-microformat-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=compound-microformat-fr&diff=0&oldid=16576 * ChristopheDucamp * (+20) ajout xfolk
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[[faqs-for-rdf-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faqs-for-rdf-fr&diff=0&oldid=16577 * ChristopheDucamp * (+5)
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[[include-pattern-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=include-pattern-fr&diff=0&oldid=16578 * ChristopheDucamp * (+101) remerciements -
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [04:58:01] <factoryjoe>
hey tantek
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what's the project up to tonight factoryjoe?
- [04:58:54] <factoryjoe>
designing a preso on hAtomic and POSH Patterns for BarCamp
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also contemplating my response to MoFoCo
- [04:59:32] <tantek>
awesome
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on your end?
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- [06:13:23] <dburka>
Hey everyone, I'm implementing hcalendar output. I have everything working except the time of day. The app doesn't record timezones. Can I specify the time without specifying the timezone (ideally calendaring apps etc. would assume the user's own timezone)
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- [06:19:31] <KevinMarks>
dburka: not ideally
- [06:19:41] <KevinMarks>
if you can map from users timezone to UTC
- [06:19:47] <KevinMarks>
you may be well off
- [06:20:09] <KevinMarks>
I had this happen to me this week
- [06:20:26] <dburka>
how can I determine timezone if I'm not asking outright? I really don't want to specify server timezone
- [06:20:27] <KevinMarks>
Vint Cerf's secretary scheduled me to chat to him at 10am
- [06:20:52] <KevinMarks>
but as he is normally in virginia, it showed up at 7am for me, despite hime beeing in california
- [06:21:44] <KevinMarks>
Joi fights with this all the time
- [06:22:01] <dburka>
KevinMarks: glad to hear I'm not the only one ;-)
- [06:22:24] <KevinMarks>
http://joi.ito.com/archives/2007/04/15/going_utc.html
- [06:23:40] <KevinMarks>
are all your users in the same timezone?
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[[hcalendar-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-issues&diff=0&oldid=16579 * Webf2 * (+821) Issues -
- [06:24:04] <KevinMarks>
I'd suggest addinga pref, and defaulting it to their majority timezone
- [06:24:25] <KevinMarks>
but handling it properly is something they'll thank you for in time
- [06:25:35] <dburka>
Ok, thanks, I think you've got me on the right track... I need to research UTC (I only vaguely know what it is) and try this further. Appreciate the help.
- [06:25:36] <KevinMarks>
(I now have colleagues in zurich, haifa, brazil, mumbai, london and new York - scheduling chats is hard)
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[[hcalendar-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-issues&diff=0&oldid=16580 * CiaranMc * (+305) Issues -
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[[hcalendar-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-issues&diff=0&oldid=16581 * CiaranMc * (+168) Issues -
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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[[hcalendar-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-issues&diff=0&oldid=16582 * CiaranMc * (+0) Issues -
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16583 * WebOrganics * (-31) Does it work? -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16584 * WebOrganics * (+125)
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16585 * WebOrganics * (-4)
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16586 * WebOrganics * (+1)
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16587 * WebOrganics * (-4)
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16588 * WebOrganics * (+18)
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16589 * WebOrganics * (-18)
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16590 * WebOrganics * (+0)
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16591 * WebOrganics * (+90) conclusion -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16592 * WebOrganics * (+8) The Idea -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16593 * WebOrganics * (+6) conclusion -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16594 * WebOrganics * (+20) Exploratory -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16595 * WebOrganics * (+123) Exploratory -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16596 * WebOrganics * (+54) conclusion -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16597 * WebOrganics * (+6) Exploratory -
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Kilianvalkhof is Kilian Valkhof, he makes websites and blogs at http://kilianvalkhof.com
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16598 * WebOrganics * (+39) conclusion -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16599 * WebOrganics * (+27) conclusion -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16600 * WebOrganics * (+42) conclusion -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16601 * WebOrganics * (+13) conclusion -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16602 * WebOrganics * (+3) conclusion -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16603 * WebOrganics * (+10) conclusion -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16604 * WebOrganics * (+0) Exploratory -
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16605 * WebOrganics * (+26) conclusion -
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woodss is Steven Woods, from Newcastle, UK (GMT 0000). His personal site is http://www.swoo.co.uk/ and Steven Woods, http://www.swoo.co.uk - He is situated in Newcastle, UK (GMT 0000).
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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[[irc-people]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=16606 * TheRLG * (+40)
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[[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=16607 * TheRLG * (+0)
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[[User:Mack Richards]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Mack_Richards * TheRLG * (+543)
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[[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=16608 * TheRLG * (-7)
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[[User:TheRLG]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:TheRLG * TheRLG * (+536)
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Hagfish is Any of various primitive, eel-shaped marine fishes of the family Myxinidae, having a jawless sucking mouth equipped with rasping teeth with which they bore into and feed on other fishes.
- [14:02:13] <TheRLG>
?
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16609 * WebOrganics * (+0) conclusion -
- [14:05:32] <TheRLG>
can anyone help me delete a page on the wiki?
- [14:05:41] <TheRLG>
made a bad user page and now it needs to go
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16610 * WebOrganics * (-4669)
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16611 * WebOrganics * (+5002)
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16612 * WebOrganics * (+0) Exploratory -
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16613 * WebOrganics * (-21)
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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[[User:BruceDailey]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:BruceDailey&diff=0&oldid=16614 * BruceDailey * (+222)
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[[User:BruceDailey]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:BruceDailey&diff=0&oldid=16616 * BruceDailey * (-1)
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[[User:BruceDailey]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:BruceDailey&diff=0&oldid=16618 * BruceDailey * (+8)
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16619 * WebOrganics * (+788) hCollection
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16620 * WebOrganics * (+2)
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16621 * WebOrganics * (+21) Exploratory -
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16636 * WebOrganics * (-24) hCollection 0.0.1 -
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16640 * WebOrganics * (+138) hCollection 0.0.1 -
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16641 * WebOrganics * (-593) Conclusion -
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16642 * WebOrganics * (+590)
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16643 * WebOrganics * (-2)
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16645 * WebOrganics * (+26) hCollection 0.0.1 -
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[[User:Kwilson]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Kwilson&diff=0&oldid=16646 * Kwilson * (-2) Updated URL
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[[hresume-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=16647 * Kwilson * (-2) Updated URL
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16648 * WebOrganics * (+45)
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16649 * WebOrganics * (+130)
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[[hresume-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=16650 * Kwilson * (+0) It would be nice if I had used the correct TLD on that link...
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[[User:Kwilson]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Kwilson&diff=0&oldid=16651 * Kwilson * (+0) It would be nice if I had used the correct TLD on that link...
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woodss is Steven Woods, from Newcastle, UK (GMT 0000). His personal site is http://www.swoo.co.uk/ and Steven Woods, http://www.swoo.co.uk - He is situated in Newcastle, UK (GMT 0000).
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16652 * WebOrganics * (-22)
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16653 * WebOrganics * (+128)
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16654 * WebOrganics * (+104)
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16658 * WebOrganics * (+0)
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16659 * WebOrganics * (+21) hCollection 0.0.2 -
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16663 * WebOrganics * (+0)
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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