IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-06-01

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  86. [13:07:52] <mfbot> [[hatom]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom&diff=0&oldid=17090 * AndreaMartines * (+161) 0.1 hAtom examples -
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  88. [13:24:24] <mfbot> [[question-answer-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=question-answer-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=17091 * TaylorCowan * (+268) hFeed -
  89. [13:27:25] <mfbot> [[question-answer-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=question-answer-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=17092 * TaylorCowan * (+0) hFeed -
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  93. [14:12:12] <mfbot> [[hlisting-feedback]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hlisting-feedback&diff=0&oldid=17093 * TaylorCowan * (+400) Retail -
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  143. [18:11:18] <mfbot> [[hatom-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-parsing&diff=0&oldid=17096 * RyanKing * (-233) removing items not specc'ed yet
  144. [18:11:39] <mfbot> [[hatom-parsing]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-parsing&diff=0&oldid=17097 * RyanKing * (-7)
  145. [18:15:15] <mfbot> [[hatom-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-parsing&diff=0&oldid=17098 * RyanKing * (+63) References - adding link to test suite
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  159. [19:47:18] <mkaply> Are there hlistings in the wild?
  160. [19:47:55] <mkaply> edgeio supposedly has them, I jsut don't know where
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  164. [19:54:42] <mkaply> tantek: know anything about hlisting?
  165. [19:56:10] <mkaply> interesting. In hlisting item and fn can be on the same element? Not true for hreview
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  168. [20:08:04] <tantek_> mkaply, that's because that was refined in hReview
  169. [20:08:06] <tantek_> but hListing probably didn't get that update
  170. [20:08:08] <tantek_> but probably should
  171. [20:08:10] <tantek_> could you note that in hlisting-issues ?
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  174. [20:08:29] <mkaply> tantek: the problem is that the main creators of hlisting all do that (edgeio, dealtagger)
  175. [20:08:59] <mkaply> Maybe we should just give up. For a simple one line description
  176. [20:09:12] <mkaply> <span item fn>Shower Head</span> just makes sense
  177. [20:09:48] <tantek> hListing really is just a proposal still, hasn't even really been made a draft, still has some issues to be resolved first
  178. [20:09:55] <tantek> so no we should not "just give up"
  179. [20:10:00] <tantek> iteration is key to microformats
  180. [20:10:10] <mkaply> I'm really not understanding this at all
  181. [20:10:11] <mkaply> <DIV class="offer sell">
  182. [20:10:12] <tantek> we iterate and evolve. we don't freeze.
  183. [20:10:24] <tantek> so there is no giving up. ;)
  184. [20:10:29] <mkaply> Does it really combine two classes into one?
  185. [20:10:32] <mkaply> like it could be
  186. [20:10:39] <mkaply> <DIV class="offer rent">
  187. [20:10:40] <tantek> mkaply, HTML permits multiple class names in a class attribute
  188. [20:10:44] <tantek> I believe that is an FAQ
  189. [20:10:53] <mkaply> I know html does, but that's not consisent with other microformats
  190. [20:11:02] <tantek> just like <span class="vcard"><a class="fn url or" href="... etc.
  191. [20:11:07] <tantek> org
  192. [20:11:16] <tantek> it is consistent actually with elements of the same "level"
  193. [20:11:26] <tantek> but hierarchy is not collapsed into a single class attribute
  194. [20:11:38] <tantek> e.g. you wouldn't put "adr" and "street-address" on the same element
  195. [20:12:46] <mkaply> Just looking at the hListing schema, I'm surprised anyone tried to use it. It doesn't even really have a proper schema
  196. [20:12:53] <mkaply> # listing action. one or more tags, suggested set: sell | rent | trade | meet | announce | offer | wanted | event | service
  197. [20:13:02] <mkaply> Is listing action really a two word microformat class?
  198. [20:34:28] <kingryan> mkaply: hlisting isn't very well designed
  199. [20:34:38] <mkaply> kingryan: yeah. I'm noticing that.
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