IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-07-10

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  9. [00:38:07] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  34. [02:09:44] <jibot> McUnixJr is here & there & everywhere & might be at http://www.jamesmcmurry.com & esta buscando el trabajo & the first to crash the released iPhone
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  38. [02:29:08] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  41. [02:38:15] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  51. [03:03:47] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  65. [03:46:22] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  88. [05:23:05] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  102. [06:16:30] <mfbot> [[hatom-hints]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-hints&diff=0&oldid=18268 * Ao4Ogb * (-4162)
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  104. [06:17:09] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  117. [07:08:40] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  122. [07:25:44] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  125. [07:34:58] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  130. [07:41:59] <jibot> drewinthehead is Drew McLellan, a web developer for Yahoo! and curator of tools.microformatic.com
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  132. [07:43:03] <jibot> KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs
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  138. [08:03:25] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  145. [08:19:39] <jibot> Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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  149. [08:26:08] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
  150. [08:29:12] <drewinthehead> hey tantek
  151. [08:29:18] <tantek> hey drew
  152. [08:29:46] <drewinthehead> i had a question r.e. the hReview spec examples
  153. [08:30:00] <tantek> i've decided that i will ignore emails to the lists that contain false assertions with no substantiation (aka troll emails)
  154. [08:30:08] <tantek> oh go ahead
  155. [08:30:25] <drewinthehead> (good plan)
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  157. [08:30:53] <drewinthehead> in the hReview spec the examples are laid out in pairs, first POSH and then the same with hReview applied
  158. [08:31:19] <drewinthehead> in most cases, the POSH example uses a BLOCKQUOTE element, and in the hReview version this is replaced with a DIV
  159. [08:31:50] <drewinthehead> i'm struggling to understand why, or if it's just a copy and paste error
  160. [08:32:02] <tantek> actually what you say is "POSH" is just what happened to be in the source example
  161. [08:32:16] <tantek> it may be POSH but merely accidentally
  162. [08:32:26] <tantek> the "before" examples were taken from actual review sites/programs
  163. [08:32:31] <drewinthehead> oh ok
  164. [08:32:59] <tantek> could you give a URL to a specific example which you are trying to understand?
  165. [08:33:10] <drewinthehead> so the assertion is that BLOCKQUOTE isn't being used appropriately in the 'before' ?
  166. [08:33:12] <drewinthehead> sure
  167. [08:34:25] <drewinthehead> http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview#Product_review
  168. [08:34:42] <drewinthehead> the BLOCKQUOTE in 'before' becomes a DIV in 'after'
  169. [08:35:28] <drewinthehead> personally i'd not use BLOCKQUOTE there at all
  170. [08:35:35] * tantek checks wiki
  171. [08:35:54] <drewinthehead> i suspect there's more cleaning up of the markup occurring than simply applying hReview
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  174. [08:37:51] <tantek> yes, certainly in that case
  175. [08:38:14] <tantek> where the single blockquote element surrounded two *different* quoting contexts
  176. [08:38:20] <tantek> and thus was not really appropriate
  177. [08:38:30] <tantek> the simplest thing was to downgrade the whole thing to a div
  178. [08:38:52] <tantek> though it could have also been turned into two blockquotes with some more work
  179. [08:39:45] <drewinthehead> that makes sense
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  181. [08:40:00] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
  182. [08:41:07] <drewinthehead> my concern is that there's rather a lot happening
  183. [08:43:00] <drewinthehead> but then perhaps the sort of simple A:B comparison examples I'm thinking of are more suited to a different document.
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  188. [08:55:41] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT) and works for Yahoo! in Europe
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  274. [16:17:15] <Speck> I think I know why microformat data is encapsulated in the class attribute (works cross-browser in html/xhtml/whatever), but thinking about microformats made me wonder what advantages/disadvantages there would be if the microformat data were presented as namespaced attributes (e.g., hcalendar:startdate="blah"). I'm not suggesting microformats should change; I am interested in the possibility...
  275. [16:17:16] <Speck> ...of this technique for passing data to unobtrusive javascript. Any thoughts?
  276. [16:18:13] <tantek> Speck - namespaced attributes are undesirable for numerous reasons. invalid. unstylable. invisible. ugly.
  277. [16:18:16] <Speck> The biggest problem I see is browser support. It needs to be XHTML, sent as text/xml-xhtml which is poorly supported, especially wrt. namespaces between browsers.
  278. [16:18:40] <Speck> Surely they aren't invisible, nor invalid.
  279. [16:18:44] <tantek> and yes, lack of browser support is a nonstarter
  280. [16:19:12] <tantek> data in namespaced attributes (most attributes for that matter) is invisible to the user and thus undesirable.
  281. [16:19:39] <Speck> see, I'm thinking about data that is only relevant to the workings of javascript, not for user consumption.
  282. [16:19:43] <tantek> namespaced attributes are invalid yes. unless you can point to a standard that shows *how* to validate them, and a validation service that *does* validate them. good luck.
  283. [16:20:05] <Speck> validity and validators don't align here, but it's valid
  284. [16:20:10] <Speck> in XHTML at least
  285. [16:20:12] <tantek> nope.
  286. [16:20:19] <tantek> you need to cite a spec that demonstrates that
  287. [16:20:26] <tantek> so far none exists
  288. [16:20:37] <tantek> for multi-namespace validation of documents
  289. [16:20:44] <tantek> like i said, good luck.
  290. [16:20:54] <tantek> w3c never solved this problem.
  291. [16:21:03] <tantek> and btw microformats are not trying to solve non-user data.
  292. [16:21:21] <tantek> i'd recommend just sticking with JSON for programmatic data, don't even bother with markup
  293. [16:22:48] <mfbot> [[namespaces-considered-harmful]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=namespaces-considered-harmful&diff=0&oldid=18294 * Tantek * (+48)
  294. [16:23:05] <Speck> that's the kind of link I am looking for. thanks
  295. [16:24:33] <jibot> Hwin is horseygurl trying to go undercover, and a crazy 50s housewife and "homies" with Jacques Torres
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  298. [16:25:23] <Speck> arguments against seem to be practical, which is disappointing, because in the theoretical I see namespaced content as a big win. It's off-topic, so I'll bugger off. Good-day.
  299. [16:26:21] <taaz> Speck: have you looked at RDFa?
  300. [16:28:09] <Speck> taaz: no, but from the examples this addresses a different idea from mine. I am not looking to have content in namespaced attributes, what I am thinking is declarative behaviors in XHTML for an unobtrusive js to consume.
  301. [16:29:04] <Speck> (I am wary of being so off-topic here, so if anyone wants to continue a discussion please recommend another channel...)
  302. [16:30:14] <drewinthehead> Speck: you nailed it with practical vs theoretical. microformats are all about the practical. :)
  303. [16:30:18] <taaz> i'm not sure what that means. :) Operator is js and reads microformats and RDFa
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  306. [16:34:17] <tantek> but operator *does* something practical with the microformats (like allowing you to add to your address book etc.). what does it do with random RDFa? just display an abstract tree/graph of data?
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  393. [22:50:23] <SignpostMarv> boo- got an hResume question if anyone's awake
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  397. [22:53:26] <bewest> SignpostMarv: go ahead and ask
  398. [22:54:28] <SignpostMarv> how are multiple roles within a company to be handled
  399. [22:54:41] <SignpostMarv> e.g. being a part of multiple departments concurrently
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  403. [23:08:32] <tantek_> SignpostMarv, URL to a real example in the wild?
  404. [23:08:34] <tantek_> bewest, always ask for that ;)
  405. [23:15:33] <SignpostMarv> there's a blurb in the wiki about "one or more job titles/positions in the same experience event", so i was thinking i could use multiple hCards as the spec suggests, but there doesn't seem to be any explicity way of indicating a department in hResume
  406. [23:17:38] <SignpostMarv> http://microformats.org/wiki/hResume#Job_Titles
  407. [23:25:37] <tantek_> you can indicate a department in the hCard for that that hCalendar event for that job
  408. [23:25:51] <tantek_> take a look at organization
  409. [23:25:56] <tantek_> rather
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  411. [23:26:05] <tantek_> lrg
  412. [23:26:06] <tantek_> org
  413. [23:27:33] <tantek_> in particular the organization-unit and organization-name subproperties of org
  414. [23:27:46] <tantek_> that would be good to add to hcard-authoring
  415. [23:28:08] <tantek_> "how do I mark up the name of the department I am in in addition to the name of the company?"
  416. [23:28:23] <SignpostMarv> organization-unit would be used for indicating department ?
  417. [23:28:26] <tantek_> use organization-unit for the department and organization-name for the company
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  419. [23:30:49] <SignpostMarv> can a "title" element be a child of an "org" element ?
  420. [23:34:09] <SignpostMarv> http://pastebin.ca/613419
  421. [23:34:54] <SignpostMarv> whoops, forgot to add <span class="title"> around the titles
  422. [23:37:08] * SignpostMarv has updated the pastebin
  423. [23:37:15] <SignpostMarv> http://pastebin.ca/613422
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  426. [23:44:29] <BobJonkman> SignpostMarv: I think the HTML is legal enought, but as a microformat only the first title element will be picked up and associated with the entire vcard, not individual organizational-unit
  427. [23:45:18] <SignpostMarv> hrm...
  428. [23:45:21] * SignpostMarv tweaks
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  430. [23:45:48] <BobJonkman> I've cut'n'pasted it to http://sobac.com/temp/mf.htm so you can try it with a parser
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  432. [23:46:36] <BobJonkman> Added a wrapper for class="vcard" and class="n fn"
  433. [23:46:41] <SignpostMarv> using the export contact option in Operator, only the first title is listed, but all departments are indicated
  434. [23:46:53] <BobJonkman> That's what I would expect
  435. [23:47:06] <BobJonkman> Title isn't a plural value
  436. [23:47:54] <SignpostMarv> a blurb on singular properties would help, similar to the one in the hcard article
  437. [23:48:42] <tantek_> signpostMarv, but you are making an hCard
  438. [23:51:37] <SignpostMarv> partial example
  439. [23:51:58] <SignpostMarv> also, http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume#Job_Titles
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  442. [23:52:45] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
  443. [23:52:55] <tantek_> those job titles come from the hCard
  444. [23:53:01] <tantek_> s
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  446. [23:53:27] <BobJonkman> That's not a plural value on a single hcard, but a new hcard for each job descriptions, each with its own title property
  447. [23:53:38] <tantek_> right
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  452. [23:54:58] <SignpostMarv> http://dev.signpostmarv.name/pub/microformats/dept.html
  453. [23:56:01] * SignpostMarv tweaks that example so it plays nice with Operator
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  455. [23:58:40] <BobJonkman> SignpostMarv: It looks about right... I've never liked the way that object elements are rendered, and haven't got around to making it pretty with CSS
  456. [23:58:52] <BobJonkman> Which is why my hResume is only partially complete
  457. [23:58:57] <SignpostMarv> tweaked
  458. [23:59:34] <SignpostMarv> opreator now shows 1 Joe Blogs entry, and 4 Joe Blogs (Foo) entries

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