IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-10-01

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  1. [00:02:10] <mfbot> [[advocacy-email-samples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy-email-samples&diff=0&oldid=22003 * Tantek * (+591) added sample email sent for OpenTable advocacy request
  2. [00:09:16] <mfbot> [[IE]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/IE * Tantek * (+31)
  3. [00:09:47] <mfbot> [[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=22004 * Tantek * (+144) forms auto-fill - added dbaron's blog post.
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  15. [01:38:52] <mfbot> [[hcard-authoring-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-authoring-fr&diff=0&oldid=22005 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) hCard en langage naturel - -> article to be translated
  16. [01:40:18] <mfbot> [[hcard-authoring-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-authoring-fr&diff=0&oldid=22006 * ChristopheDucamp * (+0) Créer de nouvelles hCards - typo
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  19. [02:04:06] <mfbot> [[hcard-authoring-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-authoring-fr&diff=0&oldid=22008 * ChristopheDucamp * (+19) hCard en langage naturel - lien vers traduction
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  22. [02:15:17] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  24. [02:47:18] <mfbot> [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists&diff=0&oldid=22009 * Tantek * (+335) LiveJournal supports XFN friends lists
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  26. [02:54:22] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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  28. [03:02:40] <surial> I'm about to release a java hCard parser. I don't give a crap about licensing. What's the most useful one for everyone else?
  29. [03:03:00] <tantek> the most flexible is probably public domain
  30. [03:03:49] <surial> That will allow companies to just use it without also open sourcing their stuff, but they can't distribute it separately without attributing?
  31. [03:03:56] <surial> or something along that line?
  32. [03:07:00] <tantek> You can use the creative commons public domain declaration (by reference, by linking to it) http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/
  33. [03:07:20] <surial> That works.
  34. [03:07:21] <tantek> it doesn't require attribution, which can sometimes be difficult for companies to accomodate
  35. [03:07:23] <surial> thanks.
  36. [03:07:36] <tantek> i used to use CC-by (attribution) for most of my stuff
  37. [03:07:44] <tantek> but I've been moving towards more and more just public domain
  38. [03:08:15] <tantek> e.g. on microformats.org wiki we encourage folks to make a public domain declaration for all their contributions: http://microformats.org/wiki/Category:public_domain_license
  39. [03:08:41] <surial> What's the main difference? The attribution thing?
  40. [03:08:45] <surial> I noticed hKit is LGPL.
  41. [03:15:28] <tantek> I thought hKit was multilicensed
  42. [03:15:38] <tantek> will have to ask drewinthehead (that's his irc nick) when he pops in here
  43. [03:16:12] <surial> and the preferred spelling is hCard, right?
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  46. [03:16:50] <tantek> yes that's right
  47. [04:11:03] <surial> What's the 'include pattern' supposed to mean? I don't think I noticed it on the wiki.
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  54. [05:54:06] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  57. [06:22:43] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  66. [08:01:12] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
  67. [08:12:19] <mfbot> [[Talk:marked-for-deletion]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:marked-for-deletion * Vb3B5a * (+15463)
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  70. [08:21:20] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  80. [09:22:08] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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  82. [09:30:43] <mfbot> [[recipe-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=recipe-examples&diff=0&oldid=22010 * Stml * (+677) Added cooking with booze to list
  83. [09:32:14] <mfbot> [[User:Stml]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Stml * Stml * (+176)
  84. [09:33:15] <mfbot> [[User:Stml]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Stml&diff=0&oldid=22011 * Stml * (+71)
  85. [09:34:21] <mfbot> [[User:Stml]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Stml&diff=0&oldid=22012 * Stml * (+55)
  86. [09:35:12] <mfbot> [[broadcast-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=broadcast-examples&diff=0&oldid=22013 * ChrisNewell * (+0) Analysis of TV Channels -
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  92. [09:53:33] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
  93. [10:21:48] <mfbot> [[rest/urls]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/urls&diff=0&oldid=22014 * RichardLivsey * (+0) Follow a Relationship -
  94. [10:28:09] <mfbot> [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists-fr&diff=0&oldid=22015 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1628) sync'd
  95. [10:30:21] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=22016 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) [fr: LiveJournal - fixed link -> added -fr]
  96. [10:31:17] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=22017 * RalphSylphen * (+146) Examples To Act On -
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  98. [11:17:30] <mfbot> [[recipe-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=recipe-examples&diff=0&oldid=22018 * AndyMabbett * (+31) cookingwithbooze.org - link
  99. [11:23:06] <mfbot> [[User talk:Stml]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:Stml * AndyMabbett * (+72) Welcome!
  100. [11:27:37] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=22019 * AndyMabbett * (+107) move last to "problems" (Required property fn not specified)
  101. [11:29:28] <mfbot> [[User talk:RalphSylphen]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:RalphSylphen * AndyMabbett * (+196) Welcome; your hCards are invalid
  102. [11:29:49] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=22020 * AndyMabbett * (+2) *
  103. [11:31:35] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=22021 * AndyMabbett * (-255) moving last
  104. [11:32:06] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild-with-problems]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild-with-problems&diff=0&oldid=22022 * AndyMabbett * (+255) Sylphen
  105. [11:32:47] <mfbot> [[User talk:RalphSylphen]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:RalphSylphen&diff=0&oldid=22023 * AndyMabbett * (-41) dab
  106. [11:33:08] <mfbot> [[User talk:RalphSylphen]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:RalphSylphen&diff=0&oldid=22024 * AndyMabbett * (-1) fmt
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  111. [12:05:24] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  117. [13:07:11] <jibot> ddfreyne is Denis Defreyne and blogs at http://stoneship.org/.
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  125. [13:48:10] <jibot> jimbojw is Jim R. Wilson of http://jimbojw.com/
  126. [13:55:19] <mfbot> [[plant-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=plant-examples&diff=0&oldid=22027 * Phae * (+941) Real-World Examples - - BBC gardening
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  129. [13:55:51] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
  130. [13:56:00] <mfbot> [[plant-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=plant-examples&diff=0&oldid=22028 * Phae * (+12) [http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening BBC Gardening] -
  131. [14:10:31] <mfbot> [[events/2007-09-05-dconstruct-microformats-workshop]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2007-09-05-dconstruct-microformats-workshop&diff=0&oldid=22029 * Tantek * (+164) updated links to extras
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  147. [15:00:42] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  150. [15:01:30] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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  158. [15:43:30] <mfbot> [[broadcast-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=broadcast-examples&diff=0&oldid=22034 * ChrisNewell * (-28) A NOTE ABOUT CONTRIBUTING - USE TEMPLATES -
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  160. [15:44:14] <jibot> SamRose is found at http://smartmobs.com, http://communitywiki.org, http://blog.p2pfoundation.com, http://barcampbank.com, and http://cooperationcommons.com
  161. [15:44:26] <mfbot> [[broadcast-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=broadcast-examples&diff=0&oldid=22035 * ChrisNewell * (+7) A NOTE ABOUT CONTRIBUTING - USE TEMPLATES -
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  163. [15:45:53] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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  219. [20:13:41] <mfbot> [[User talk:JeffMcNeill]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:JeffMcNeill * AndyMabbett * (+71) Welcome!
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  241. [20:59:03] <jeffmcneill> i am a confused n00b, is this post to Talk:demo legit?
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  247. [21:03:26] <tantek> jeffmcneill no.
  248. [21:03:57] <jeffmcneill> is anyone working on a microformat for a course syllabus?
  249. [21:04:07] <jeffmcneill> university level...
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  251. [21:04:47] <tantek> jeffmcneill start by marking up a syllabus with hCalendar perhaps
  252. [21:05:32] <jeffmcneill> I can do that, just don't want to redo anyone's work in this area, is Glushko getting microformat religion? I think he has some OASIS RDF for this sort of thing...
  253. [21:05:58] <tantek> the best way to figure out if a new microformat is needed, and if so, what it needs, is by first using existing microformats and then seeing "what's left over" and marking it up with POSH
  254. [21:06:49] <jeffmcneill> Tantek, will do
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  256. [21:09:53] <tantek> jeffmcneill - this is a good starting point: http://microformats.org/wiki/get-started
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