IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-10-11

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  12. [00:27:11] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  42. [02:19:54] <KevinMarks> http://burningbird.net/technology/notes-from-the-book-part-two
  43. [02:20:49] <KevinMarks> shelley: 'Regarding microformats: Using "rel", "class", and "profile", as the only available means in which to add semantics to markup is the same as using LOLCats to re-define the Bible: it's pidgin markup. '
  44. [02:21:10] <KevinMarks> me: "I'd say microformats are a creole derived from the exiting element pidgin, with RDF somewhere on the Esperanto/Volapük/Loglan/Lojban line of thought."
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  58. [03:24:53] <mfbot> [[Talk:rel-tag-ja]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:rel-tag-ja * VquTo1 * (+29252)
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  62. [04:21:28] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  78. [07:14:22] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  81. [07:58:26] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  89. [08:39:43] <jibot> mn_francis is a web developer for Yahoo! Europe; http://cackhanded.net/ is his personal site
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  95. [09:04:13] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
  96. [09:16:58] <mfbot> [[presentations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations&diff=0&oldid=22448 * Tantek * (+321) add Matt Biddulph FOWA preso
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  101. [09:22:53] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  103. [09:23:26] <jibot> KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs & syllepses & his blog is at http://epeus.blogspot.com & he explains how to get Creators paid at http://mediagora.com & originally from London, UK & living in Willow Glen, San Jose, CA & is WikipediaWorthy & part of http://microformats.org & PST (UTC-8) & the Podfather & now credentialed as a social genius
  104. [09:25:51] <mfbot> [[User:Singpolyma]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Singpolyma&diff=0&oldid=22449 * Tantek * (-14687) Reverted edit of Ic3Iwi, changed back to last version by BenWard
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  112. [09:41:37] <Leorni> Chu kiu parolas en esperanton?
  113. [09:41:50] <Leorni> Who speak Esperanto?
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  118. [10:05:48] <jibot> julianstahnke is a German front-end dev for Last.fm and lives in London and wants a play button next to every mentioning of an audio track on the internet
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  121. [10:15:22] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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  125. [10:51:41] <jibot> bluesmoon is Philip <http://bluesmoon.info> and does things at Yahoo! and likes food and hacking
  126. [10:53:05] <mfbot> [[question-answer-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=question-answer-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=22450 * Hw2Hli * (+9466)
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  130. [12:02:40] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-ja&diff=0&oldid=22451 * Nao * (+799) Translated examples and other areas into Japanese
  131. [12:02:53] <jibot> WildFox is Mr. KSVG, original author of the majority of the code behind WebKit's rockin SVG support and super awesome with three sides of awesomesauce
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  133. [12:05:46] <mfbot> [[User:Nao]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Nao&diff=0&oldid=22452 * Nao * (+89)
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  137. [12:13:27] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  140. [12:27:23] <mfbot> [[broadcast-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=broadcast-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=22453 * ChrisNewell * (+3) hCard -
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  159. [14:10:58] <jibot> dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
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  166. [14:40:19] <InsomniaCity> BenWard: you about?
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  168. [14:43:30] <InsomniaCity> BenWard: so you would agree that org-unit is appropriate for a uni department, and then org-name for the name of the university?
  169. [14:44:47] <InsomniaCity> BenWard: as for address, how do I get the university into the address? yesterday I had extended-address as Computing Laboratory, street-address as University of Kent
  170. [14:45:24] <InsomniaCity> BenWard: but if, as you say, I shouldn't be using street-address for something that doesn't actually have a street, how do I get both Computing Laboratory and University of Kent into an adr?
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  175. [15:07:29] <BenWard> InsomniaCity: I'd have thought the uni name gets included in the address the same way as a persons name gets included in an address? Although, as I think this through a little more, I see where you're going.
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  178. [15:08:11] <BenWard> Yes, I see what you mean. ‘Computing Laboratory, The University of Kent’ is part of the address… OK.
  179. [15:08:23] <BenWard> As opposed to addressing something _to_ the University of Kent
  180. [15:08:45] <BenWard> Both of those are the ‘Extended Address’.
  181. [15:14:06] <julianstahnke> is there anyone from digital bazaar here?
  182. [15:29:20] <mfbot> [[events/2007-01-la-microformats-gettogether-planning]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2007-01-la-microformats-gettogether-planning&diff=0&oldid=22454 * Dv7Dz0 * (+9562)
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  184. [15:53:52] <mfbot> [[audio-info-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=audio-info-issues&diff=0&oldid=22455 * JulianStahnke * (+59) Votes -
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  191. [16:14:10] <InsomniaCity> BenWard: ok, if they're both extended-address, how does that work syntactically?
  192. [16:15:08] <BenWard> To the best of my knowledge, two occurrences of ‘extended-address’ in an ‘adr’ will be concatinated together.
  193. [16:21:11] <InsomniaCity> BenWard: you got a reference on that?
  194. [16:23:45] <BenWard> It's the current behaviour in a number of parsers. I'm not 100% if we documented it, though.
  195. [16:24:15] <BenWard> Need Brian Suda or Mike Kapley to check with really
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  203. [16:35:27] <InsomniaCity> BenWard: heh, well, "extended" only appears once.
  204. [16:35:37] <BenWard> How do you mean?
  205. [16:35:40] * InsomniaCity gives tails and operator a poke with multiple extended-address
  206. [16:35:50] <InsomniaCity> well, the behaviour isn't in the spec.
  207. [16:37:50] <InsomniaCity> BenWard: uh, both Operator and Tails ignore the second extended-address
  208. [16:38:59] <taaz> julianstahnke: yeah, what's up?
  209. [16:39:14] <InsomniaCity> BenWard: completely ignore it :(
  210. [16:39:35] <julianstahnke> do you have any plans to update your haudio userscript for operator to the newest spec?
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  212. [16:40:30] <taaz> yes. i just haven't bothered until some of the naming issues are settled.
  213. [16:40:34] <julianstahnke> I started writing a js haudio parser but then had a look around and found yours :D
  214. [16:40:35] <julianstahnke> ah
  215. [16:43:26] <taaz> latest userscript plus some operator hacks does both uf and rdf haudio.
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  218. [16:43:50] <taaz> i probably should put it in a repo somewhere...
  219. [16:44:09] <julianstahnke> that'd be awesome!
  220. [16:44:32] <julianstahnke> does it still look for halbum or did you update it to only use haudio already?
  221. [16:45:04] <julianstahnke> I find it quite painful that there can be haudio nested in haudio
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  223. [16:46:07] <julianstahnke> it kinda makes sense, but then again, it's a bit confusing
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  226. [16:49:51] <taaz> yeah i think latest version still uses halbum. which works great on my local version of bitmunk website :)
  227. [16:49:59] <julianstahnke> hehe
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  229. [16:51:35] <julianstahnke> would it be 'illegal' to use the microformats.js of operator in another firefox plugin?
  230. [16:51:59] <InsomniaCity> depends on the license.
  231. [16:53:43] <MAKACOW-Brazil> why microformats staat wuth "H"?
  232. [16:53:52] <BenWard> h for ‘HTML’
  233. [16:53:52] <MAKACOW-Brazil> ex. hcard, hcalendar, etc..
  234. [16:53:56] <julianstahnke> seems to be GPL or LPGL
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  236. [16:54:20] <MAKACOW-Brazil> BenWard: thanks
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  240. [16:55:10] <julianstahnke> I guess I could use it in any other firefox extension because firefox extensions are more or less open source anyway because everyone can just open the extentions folder and look at the files anyway?
  241. [16:55:17] <taaz> julianstahnke: it's tri-licensed mpl/gpl/lgpl so it can potentially be included in ff itself i think
  242. [16:56:10] <julianstahnke> and your userscript (more specifically, the part where it defines the microformat), could I use that as well?
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  244. [17:00:07] <InsomniaCity> BenWard: would you suggest a hidden extended-address of "Computing Laboratory, University of Kent" ?
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  246. [17:02:35] <BenWard> It's not ideal… Check the archives of microformats-discuss. There's been talk about concatenation before. If you search for concatenation via the gmane archive (see old ‘This Week in Microformats’ blog posts for links in to that) you might find more clarity for that answer
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  248. [17:03:16] <BenWard> I've got to go, but good luck finding an answer :)
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  250. [17:05:27] <taaz> julianstahnke: sure, enjoy :) it will need to be updated as the spec changes though.
  251. [17:05:37] <julianstahnke> yup yup
  252. [17:05:46] <julianstahnke> cheers :)
  253. [17:07:01] <taaz> depending on what your doing, you may be able to reuse the code without copy&pasting.
  254. [17:07:12] <julianstahnke> would be awesome if you could put it in svn somewhere so one could keep track. If I make any changes to it, I'll send them to you.
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  256. [17:11:00] <taaz> i've got youtube action in my latest code too. kind of interesting since lots of music videos are up there.
  257. [17:11:27] <julianstahnke> ooohhh
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  301. [18:57:08] <mfbot> [[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=22456 * Robert * (+36)
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  303. [19:00:00] <blueace> ?def is Robert Gaal, a codemonkey at http://wakoopa.com and blogmonkey at http://53miles.com
  304. [19:00:00] <jibot> I need at least 3 words with an 'is' in the middle
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  306. [19:00:16] <blueace> ahw
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  308. [19:00:44] <blueace> ?def blueace is Robert Gaal, a codemonkey at http://wakoopa.com and blogmonkey at http://53miles.com
  309. [19:00:44] <jibot> blueace is Robert Gaal, a codemonkey at http://wakoopa.com and blogmonkey at http://53miles.com
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  311. [19:01:10] <bluesmoon> hello blueace
  312. [19:01:20] <blueace> lo!
  313. [19:02:28] <bluesmoon> where from?
  314. [19:05:01] <blueace> oh uh yeah forgot to add that :)
  315. [19:05:07] <blueace> amsterdam, holland
  316. [19:05:49] <bluesmoon> :) nice
  317. [19:06:13] <bluesmoon> i've always wanted to visit holland. had a friend studying in rotterdam
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  319. [19:06:46] <jibot> neuro` is also known as fdevillamil
  320. [19:06:46] <blueace> hehe yeah you should, i wonder how many dutchies are in this chan
  321. [19:06:48] <neuro`> Hello
  322. [19:07:24] <bluesmoon> I once saw a dutch article that had my name in it, but I couldn't read it
  323. [19:07:57] <bluesmoon> i only know one line in dutch
  324. [19:08:33] <blueace> whats that?
  325. [19:09:07] <bluesmoon> http://ldp.ludost.net/linuxfocus/Nederlands/newbie/report3.meta.html
  326. [19:09:26] <bluesmoon> ik hoep je hao veer te zijn (not sure about the spellings)
  327. [19:10:21] <blueace> hm, not sure what that means :p
  328. [19:10:51] <blueace> ik hoop je snel weer te zien
  329. [19:11:00] <blueace> (i hope to see you soon)
  330. [19:11:05] <bluesmoon> yes, that
  331. [19:11:13] <blueace> hehe :)
  332. [19:11:34] <bluesmoon> i tried learning dutch about 7 years ago, but never got very far
  333. [19:12:39] <bluesmoon> nothing about the language, just that it's hard to learn on your own
  334. [19:13:23] <bluesmoon> blueace, no openid integration on wakoopa?
  335. [19:13:35] <blueace> well, thats a tricky thing
  336. [19:13:43] <blueace> we also have a desktop client where you need to login
  337. [19:14:03] <bluesmoon> but you'd have to be connected to the net to do that right?
  338. [19:14:12] <blueace> yep true
  339. [19:14:25] <blueace> so we could use the web to catch the openid calls
  340. [19:14:31] <blueace> havent gotten around to it yet though
  341. [19:14:35] <bluesmoon> k
  342. [19:14:50] <bluesmoon> when's the linux client coming?
  343. [19:15:01] <bluesmoon> I don't have windows or mac
  344. [19:16:16] <blueace> it's actually in the making right now, should be there soon
  345. [19:16:27] <bluesmoon> cool
  346. [19:16:27] <blueace> most requested feature by date :)
  347. [19:16:35] <bluesmoon> heh
  348. [19:16:41] <bluesmoon> i run linux and freebsd
  349. [19:17:03] <blueace> ubuntu myself sometimes
  350. [19:17:09] <bluesmoon> yeah, same here
  351. [19:17:13] <bluesmoon> ubuntu on the laptop
  352. [19:17:23] <bluesmoon> fedora on one desktop, fbsd on the other
  353. [19:17:30] <blueace> kewl
  354. [19:20:14] <blueace> well dutch is somewhat difficult
  355. [19:20:28] <blueace> oh wait, wrong window
  356. [19:20:31] <blueace> wow that happens a lot
  357. [19:21:40] <blueace> ?def blueace is Robert Gaal, some Dutch guy from http://wakoopa.com and http://53miles.com
  358. [19:21:40] <jibot> blueace is Robert Gaal, a codemonkey at http://wakoopa.com and blogmonkey at http://53miles.com and Robert Gaal, some Dutch guy from http://wakoopa.com and http://53miles.com
  359. [19:21:49] <blueace> uh woops
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  361. [19:26:19] <MAKACOW-Brazil> KevinMarks: expr:dir='data:blog.languageDirection' ...... cool..small news in blogger template engine..... i think who would be an expr to set language in <html> also
  362. [19:26:41] <bluesmoon> blueace: use ?forgetme and startover
  363. [19:26:45] <mfbot> [[Talk:xfolk-kottke]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:xfolk-kottke * Mx7K3q * (+9691)
  364. [19:27:02] <blueace> ?forgetme
  365. [19:27:02] <MAKACOW-Brazil> KevinMarks: to set lang="en" and others languages in options of blog
  366. [19:27:02] <jibot> I have expunged blueace from my mind
  367. [19:27:04] <blueace> thanks
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  369. [19:27:10] <blueace> ?def blueace is Robert Gaal, some Dutch guy from http://wakoopa.com and http://53miles.com
  370. [19:27:10] <jibot> blueace is Robert Gaal, some Dutch guy from http://wakoopa.com and http://53miles.com
  371. [19:27:18] <bluesmoon> blueace, do it one at a time
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  373. [19:27:36] <bluesmoon> eg: ?def blueace is Robert Gaal, some Dutch guy...
  374. [19:27:48] <bluesmoon> ... ?def blueace is http://53...
  375. [19:27:54] <blueace> ahw ok
  376. [19:27:58] <blueace> ?forgetme
  377. [19:27:58] <jibot> I have expunged blueace from my mind
  378. [19:28:07] <bluesmoon> yeah, took me a while to get it right
  379. [19:28:37] <bluesmoon> ?def blueace is Robert Gaal, some Dutch guy from http://wakoopa.com
  380. [19:28:37] <jibot> blueace is Robert Gaal, some Dutch guy from http://wakoopa.com
  381. [19:28:47] <bluesmoon> ?def blueace is http://53miles.com
  382. [19:28:47] <jibot> blueace is Robert Gaal, some Dutch guy from http://wakoopa.com and http://53miles.com
  383. [19:28:50] <bluesmoon> see
  384. [19:28:56] <blueace> great, thx
  385. [19:29:03] <bluesmoon> and add to it as you like
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  387. [19:29:09] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
  388. [19:29:43] <blueace> did a lot with bots, never with jibot though
  389. [19:30:02] <bluesmoon> jibot doesn't talk back much
  390. [19:30:14] <bluesmoon> log on to #joiito for all the experts on jibot
  391. [19:31:55] <hendry> my hcard isn't validating as html5 http://validator.nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fhendry.iki.fi%2F&showsource=yes
  392. [19:34:48] <bluesmoon> hmm
  393. [19:36:42] <bluesmoon> sorry, don't know why
  394. [19:36:49] * hober takes a look
  395. [19:37:20] <hober> ahh
  396. [19:38:09] <hober> your div.vcard contains both inline- and block-level children
  397. [19:38:50] <hober> <div> can contain inline-level children xor block-level children
  398. [19:39:22] <hendry> ok
  399. [19:39:24] <bluesmoon> interesting
  400. [19:39:33] <hendry> so, I should remove or change what? :)
  401. [19:39:48] <bluesmoon> add divs around your img and a tags
  402. [19:39:55] <bluesmoon> or change your divs to spans
  403. [19:39:57] <bluesmoon> i think
  404. [19:40:03] <bluesmoon> your inner divs that is
  405. [19:40:03] <hendry> spans look ugly i recall
  406. [19:40:15] <bluesmoon> or something more semantic
  407. [19:41:12] <bluesmoon> you can put your one img and <a> tag inside another div, but i like that less
  408. [19:41:34] <hendry> ok, it validates
  409. [19:41:59] <hendry> divs need some class I guess
  410. [19:42:02] <bluesmoon> are you from finland or south africa?
  411. [19:42:08] <bluesmoon> no, they don't
  412. [19:42:16] <bluesmoon> or the UK
  413. [19:42:26] <hendry> bluesmoon: hover the mouse of the flags on http://hendry.iki.fi/about/
  414. [19:42:35] <hendry> s/of/over
  415. [19:42:53] <hendry> i went to university in Helsinki :)
  416. [19:43:07] <bluesmoon> heh, i was looking at the favicon
  417. [19:43:36] <bluesmoon> ah, you started with a spectrum too
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  419. [19:44:56] <hendry> i need some semantics to my divs
  420. [19:45:27] <bluesmoon> unfortunately, that extra div would be purely for validation
  421. [19:45:33] <neuro`> Question : can a vevent have a location start and a location end ? A trip is an event, and it always start and end somewhere
  422. [19:47:35] <bluesmoon> maybe a trip is a series of events
  423. [19:47:49] <bluesmoon> with start and end being two points
  424. [19:47:51] <neuro`> Yes, but always with a place to start and end
  425. [19:48:05] <bluesmoon> so start is one vevent and end is another vevent
  426. [19:48:11] <bluesmoon> each has its own location
  427. [19:48:41] <neuro`> Yes, but can I say the arrival has a dtstart ? as it is the end of the trip
  428. [19:48:46] <hendry> is there some easy reference to know which elements are block or inline elements?
  429. [19:48:53] <bluesmoon> and put it inside a <div class="trip"> (no, there is no trip µf AFAIK)
  430. [19:49:28] <neuro`> hendry: easy : everything that is not inline, list or table is block :)
  431. [19:49:42] <bluesmoon> hendry, div, p, blockquote, li, dd
  432. [19:50:30] <bluesmoon> neuro`, good point. i can't say i have a good answer
  433. [19:50:31] <hober> hendry: the spec describes each element's type and content model
  434. [19:50:44] <bluesmoon> try the microformats-discuss mailing list
  435. [19:50:54] <hober> <div class="vcalendar"> if you want it to contain multiple, related vevents
  436. [19:51:08] <neuro`> thx
  437. [19:51:25] <neuro`> btw are you the hober who hanged on #wordpress / #gallery long time ago ?
  438. [19:52:19] <hober> maybe
  439. [19:52:21] <hober> probably not
  440. [19:52:26] <hober> I think I used to auto-join #wordpress
  441. [19:52:42] <hober> but, if I did, I didn't participate much
  442. [19:53:04] <hober> I'm the hober from #emacs
  443. [19:53:21] <neuro`> Maybe the one I used to know had 2 'b'
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  464. [21:09:07] <MAKACOW-Brazil> q tradussao horrivel k
  465. [21:09:14] <MAKACOW-Brazil> tem isso num alertao no passion, depois q vc loga k
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