IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-12-31

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  3. [00:13:45] <jibot> dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
  4. [00:15:57] <mfbot> [[hcard-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-issues&diff=0&oldid=24036 * AndyMabbett * (+354) 2006 - suggestion to inmporve rule for "place" hcards
  5. [00:18:33] <mfbot> [[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=24037 * AndyMabbett * (+333) "fn" and "extended-address" combination - note this is an untested proposal; suggest extension
  6. [00:19:59] <mfbot> [[hcard-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=24038 * AndyMabbett * (+2) Concerns - tyops
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  12. [00:52:07] <jibot> dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
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  16. [03:30:53] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  18. [03:35:53] <jibot> jimbojw is Jim R. Wilson of http://jimbojw.com/
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  29. [07:12:43] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  32. [07:53:01] <jibot> ddfreyne is Denis Defreyne and blogs at http://stoneship.org/.
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  47. [09:03:04] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  61. [11:14:36] <mfbot> [[User:Noriyo]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Noriyo&diff=0&oldid=24040 * Noriyo * (+253)
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  153. [13:40:00] <MAKACOW-Brazil> do i can use entry-summary inside an entry-content?
  154. [13:41:29] <MAKACOW-Brazil> like, <div class="entry-content"><h4 class="entry-summary">abstract</h4> all post content</div>
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  156. [14:08:37] <mfbot> [[User:CyndyParr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:CyndyParr&diff=0&oldid=24041 * CyndyParr * (+1180)
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  159. [15:06:00] <jibot> jimbojw is Jim R. Wilson of http://jimbojw.com/
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  166. [15:48:11] <jibot> dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
  167. [16:16:45] <InsomniaCity> OK, can someone clarify something for me with regard to hCard...
  168. [16:19:12] <InsomniaCity> When using one of the human/machine readable exceptions (http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Human_vs._Machine_readable), as Tantek does in his hCard at the top of the spec, why is it that the <a>,<img> etc is contained within the element marked class="fn" (for example), and why its not the <a> or <img> that is marked class="fn"?
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  179. [16:56:40] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  183. [17:30:30] <InsomniaCity> tantek: could you clarify something for me with regard to hCard...
  184. [17:30:38] <InsomniaCity> When using one of the human/machine readable exceptions (http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Human_vs._Machine_readable), as Tantek does in his hCard at the top of the spec, why is it that the <a>,<img> etc is contained within the element marked class="fn" (for example), and why its not the <a> or <img> that is marked class="fn"?
  185. [17:31:34] <InsomniaCity> I mean, I understand that nominally the contents of a marked element is the value, but that bit of the spec makes me think that those exceptions apply directly to elements marked
  186. [17:32:23] <InsomniaCity> ie, <span class="vcard"><img src"me.jpg" class="fn" alt="My Name" /></span>
  187. [17:32:40] <InsomniaCity> the fn of that vcard is not "My Name", correct?
  188. [17:33:31] <tantek> it is
  189. [17:33:46] <tantek> that's what the spec is pointing out yes
  190. [17:33:54] <tantek> and consider class="photo fn"
  191. [17:33:56] <tantek> on that img
  192. [17:34:05] <tantek> thus simultaneously setting the photo and the fn properties with one element
  193. [17:34:26] <tantek> more markup effficient
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  195. [17:37:07] <InsomniaCity> so the http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Human_vs._Machine_readable exceptions apply to the elements, but also when those elements are a child of something else?
  196. [17:37:42] <tantek> no directly to the element only
  197. [17:37:43] <InsomniaCity> ie, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><img src="me.jpg" alt="My Name" /></span></span>
  198. [17:37:48] <InsomniaCity> ah, ok
  199. [17:37:58] <tantek> i believe that is in hcard-faq
  200. [17:38:05] <tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq
  201. [17:38:08] <InsomniaCity> but your hcard on the spec utilises that...
  202. [17:38:17] <InsomniaCity> <span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Tantek" title="User:Tantek">Tantek Çelik</a></span >
  203. [17:38:36] <tantek> that doesn't utilize any exceptions
  204. [17:38:43] <tantek> the exceptions apply directly to elements
  205. [17:38:50] <tantek> the general rule is content text
  206. [17:39:09] <tantek> see: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq#Why_is_IMG_alt_not_being_picked_up
  207. [17:39:51] <InsomniaCity> ok, so because Tantek Celik is the context text, even though its inside an <a>, thats the value of the fn?
  208. [17:40:08] <tantek> correct
  209. [17:40:10] <InsomniaCity> (no chance of employing cedillas on this keyboard, sorry)
  210. [17:40:23] <tantek> that's the general rule of handling property values that is defined in hcard-parsing
  211. [17:40:27] <InsomniaCity> ok, and does that descend indefinitely?
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  213. [17:41:12] <InsomniaCity> so by "finally, always fallback to using the contents of the element for the value", that means the content text, not the content HTML ?
  214. [17:41:53] <tantek> that's what "contents" means
  215. [17:42:03] <tantek> as opposed to contained HTML
  216. [17:42:05] <tantek> contents is text
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  219. [17:51:39] <gsnedders> innerContent doesn't exist. textContent does.
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