IRC Log for #microformats on 2008-04-15
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remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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illustir is the creator of hAvatar and related and at http://alper.nl and builds http://tipit.to
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?forgetme
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I have expunged illustir from my mind
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madness is a freelance web developer from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. His online home is at http://www.markng.co.uk/
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gsnedders is a mad teenager from Scotland who occasionally blogs at <http://geoffers.uni.cc/>
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Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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mn_francis is a web developer for Yahoo! Europe; http://cackhanded.net/ is his personal site
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[[User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1&diff=0&oldid=26761 * TobyInk * (+88) Property List for hCalendar Alarms -
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BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
- [09:03:01] <mfbot>
[[User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1&diff=0&oldid=26762 * TobyInk * (-33) Properties and Sub-properties - valarm must be a child of vevent or vtodo
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[[User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1&diff=0&oldid=26763 * TobyInk * (+34) Root Class Name -
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[[User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1&diff=0&oldid=26764 * TobyInk * (+11) Full hCalendar Example - VALUE=TEXT on ATTENDEE in example
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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madness is a freelance web developer from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. His online home is at http://www.markng.co.uk/
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mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
- [12:11:14] * CloCkWeR1 waves @ mkaply, and wonders if he had any feedback re google contacts user script for operator
- [12:11:48] <mfbot>
[[hcard-examples-in-wild-pending]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild-pending&diff=0&oldid=26765 * CTagg * (+174) New Example - Autopendium
- [12:11:55] <mkaply>
CloCkWeR1: it actually didn't work for me. It wouldn't take my authentication. So my main feedback is that errors need to be alerted to the user, not just dumped to the console :)
- [12:12:09] <CloCkWeR1>
yeah, that would probably help
- [12:12:14] <CloCkWeR1>
i shall tinker more
- [12:12:43] <CloCkWeR1>
i take it you are on ff3b5 or a nightly?
- [12:12:59] <CloCkWeR1>
(i did it all in flock, which is apprx ff2.0.0.12)
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- [12:31:08] <mkaply>
Nope, FF2
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- [12:57:04] <mkaply>
CloCkWeR1: if we could start using this method for Google anything, I'd be very happy. I just hadn't wanted to learn the Google API.
- [12:57:17] <mkaply>
Plus I wasn't sure how to get userid/pass - love your idea of just using Firefox
- [12:57:47] <mkaply>
CloCkWeR1: of course the tricky part is we've been discussing how to do actions in XML instead of JS - your action shows why having JS is so powerful
- [12:59:12] <CloCkWeR1>
actions in xml... :S data in xml... :) data in rdf/a graph :D... but we'll get to that later
- [13:00:02] <mkaply>
CloCkWeR1: By using XML, we can have something like Microsoft where actions get loaded as the browser is running. As long as I use privileged Javascript for actions, drive by installation is very bad
- [13:00:15] <mkaply>
unless we create a really good sandbox (like greasemonkey)
- [13:01:07] <CloCkWeR1>
i haven't dived at all into the microsoft activities/webslices stuff
- [13:01:26] <CloCkWeR1>
*googles*
- [13:05:00] <CloCkWeR1>
ugh
- [13:05:15] <CloCkWeR1>
http://ie.microsoft.com/activities/en-en/OSDFIles/LiveSpaces.xml
- [13:05:17] <CloCkWeR1>
scary looking
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- [13:14:45] <CloCkWeR1>
mkaply: what'
- [13:15:05] <CloCkWeR1>
s the best way for a user script to indicate success/failure to the user, without reinventing the wheel?
- [13:15:22] <mkaply>
CloCkWeR1: I would just alert the error.
- [13:15:23] <CloCkWeR1>
i'm a little reluctant to just alert() all the time, 'cause it can get really annoying
- [13:15:26] <CloCkWeR1>
oops
- [13:15:31] <CloCkWeR1>
alrighty, alert it is
- [13:15:44] <mkaply>
Since it should be something they can fix in theory
- [13:15:59] <mkaply>
If you want to, you can check "Operator.debug" to do additional info
- [13:16:07] <mkaply>
Like if you want to do something more elaborate
- [13:16:17] <mkaply>
Do it if "Operator.debug" is set (I think you can get at that variable)
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- [13:23:22] <CloCkWeR1>
mkaply: got an example hcard or three it breaks for you on?
- [13:23:37] <CloCkWeR1>
(my test cases are http://www.flickr.com/people/clockwerx/ and http://clockwerx.blogspot.com/ )
- [13:26:47] <CloCkWeR1>
oh, n/m, it's ff3b5 vs the password manager thing i was trying to use
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli http://www.csarven.ca
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ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com and a neogeographer and is co-founder of Mapufacture
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CloCkWeR1: You can write code that uses both
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http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/doron/archives/2007/06/new_password_manager_and_exten.html
- [13:53:55] <CloCkWeR1>
just finished implementing
- [13:54:15] <CloCkWeR1>
new patch in moments...
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ooh, missed him
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Etherel15 is the God of all porcupines, the religion of PMOG and among other things, pokey and the steampunkin' Lord of all the Porcupines and who is destined to play the new Doctor in 2015. And aside from his devotion to proving that Vigilantes beg the Question, also enjoys Spam sushi
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[[hlisting-proposal]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hlisting-proposal&diff=0&oldid=26766 * Mtm * (+102) Nestoria.co.uk is another example in the wild
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[[hlisting-feedback]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hlisting-feedback&diff=0&oldid=26767 * Mtm * (+5) blog matrix validator not longer works (404), adding Optimus as alternative
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[[hlisting-proposal]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hlisting-proposal&diff=0&oldid=26768 * Mtm * (-116) blog matrix validator not longer works (error 404), no link on their homepage to an alternative
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[[User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1&diff=0&oldid=26769 * TobyInk * (+89) Property List for hCalendar Freebusys -
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[[User talk:ABocan]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ABocan&diff=0&oldid=26770 * ABocan * (-294) Pagini oficiale -
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- [16:57:32] <GordonO>
evening
- [16:58:38] <GordonO>
Is there something wrong with microformats-dev? I do not get any emails anymore from it though I am registered. I know there is new posts.
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- [17:07:55] <mkaply>
GordonO: I have the same problem.
- [17:08:01] <mkaply>
I even re signed up and don't get them
- [17:08:04] <mkaply>
And they are not in my spam
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- [17:10:05] <GordonO>
mkaply : sorry, program crashed
- [17:10:16] <GordonO>
: thanks for the info
- [17:10:50] <GordonO>
mkaply: btw, there is some talk about your activities plugin here: http://blog.xing.com/2008/04/the-new-interne.html?dpt=ma&ttp=sysnews&plf=mcrsft&xtr=20080414 in case you are interested in it.
- [17:11:50] <GordonO>
mkaply : its in the comments
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- [17:23:11] <mkaply>
GordonO: looking. I have a nice new version, but getting it on to addons is a pain right now
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- [17:28:18] <GordonO>
mkaply: I didn't try out any version of it yet. Didn't find the time to install either FF/IE beta
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tobyink is Toby Inkster <http://tobyinkster.co.uk/>, author of Cognition <http://buzzword.org.uk/cognition/>
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[[User:TobyInk]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:TobyInk&diff=0&oldid=26771 * TobyInk * (+111) Add Acid Test #1
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tobyink is Toby Inkster <http://tobyinkster.co.uk/>, author of Cognition <http://buzzword.org.uk/cognition/>
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- [18:49:46] <madness>
can anyone have a look at my hresume CV and tell me if I've done anything wrong ? (I don't think there is currently any kind of consumer or validator for hresume at the moment, is there ?) http://www.markng.co.uk/cv
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[[hresume-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=26772 * MarkNg * (+90) New Examples -
- [18:56:53] <tobyink>
@madness: the vevent ULs could be given class="description"
- [18:57:52] <madness>
tobyink: yup, that makes sense. I'll do that. thanks
- [18:58:49] <madness>
tobyink: where I have a paragraph and then a list, would it make more sense to include them both within a div with a class description, also ?
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BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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- [19:20:19] <tobyink>
@madness, probably
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- [19:33:26] <mkaply>
so does anyone know why people like me aren't getting microformat list stuff?
- [19:34:40] <BenWard>
Still?! Erk. We made all the _hilarious_ jokes about it last time, didn't we? Who was it who said they'd look into it? Ryan?
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tobyink is Toby Inkster <http://tobyinkster.co.uk/>, author of Cognition <http://buzzword.org.uk/cognition/>
- [20:37:28] <tobyink>
re the dev list: I've posted two or three messages to it in the last week or so, but none have shown up in the web archives
- [20:39:25] <BenWard>
I get a few opposite instances; where I post to a list (usually -discuss), don't get it sent back to me, but then it does then appear in archives…
- [20:40:21] <tobyink>
i should mention i suppose that i'm not subscribed to it. (i avoid subscribing to lists where possible - use a combination of gmane and web archives to keep up)
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- [20:44:06] <tobyink>
maybe i should subscribe and then go nomail
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- [20:59:45] <DanC>
right; I think the dev list only accepts postings from subscribers
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It doesn't look like X2V handles rrule. Are there any exporters that do?
- [21:21:24] <mkaply>
what is tzid and why isn't it documented?
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- [21:22:30] <mkaply>
This is a problem
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=26773 * WebOrganics * (-3)
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[[User:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=26774 * WebOrganics * (+2)
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