IRC Log for #microformats on 2008-07-26

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  41. [07:43:42] <mfbot> [[User:Lenneth]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Lenneth * Lenneth * (+81)
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  48. [08:57:22] <tobyink> I was hoping to catch Amorphous because I noticed his question on the IRC logs.
  49. [08:58:04] <tobyink> But for the logs, the reason http://buzzword.org.uk/profiles/2008/03/ doesn't have rel=icon is because rel=icon is not a microformat.
  50. [08:58:34] <tobyink> However, if people want to use rel=icon, the profile here: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab does include it.
  51. [08:59:13] <tobyink> You can make use of both profiles using <head profile="http://buzzword.org.uk/profiles/2008/03/ http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab">
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  72. [15:12:54] <mfbot> [[xfn-implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-implementations&diff=0&oldid=27882 * DmitryDzhus * (+288) visualizers and browsers -
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  87. [19:31:02] <mfbot> [[profile-uris]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=profile-uris&diff=0&oldid=27883 * TobyInk * (+49) Individual Microformats - Add hAudio
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  90. [20:41:18] <Amorphous> tobyink, two profile uris don't work out because the dtd for html4 only expects one, thus it would be nice to have one for all...
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  92. [20:50:19] <gsnedders> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/global.html#h-7.4.1 contradicts that, but that's unlikely to be fixed
  93. [20:50:55] <gsnedders> (though technically that definition isn't actually a conformance constraint, so it is purely informative)
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  95. [20:54:38] <Amorphous> gsnedders, yes the text below http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/global.html#adef-profile contradicts it's heading and the dtd...
  96. [20:55:12] <gsnedders> HTML 4 is _so_ well written :\
  97. [20:55:17] <Amorphous> so the only way to be safe is to break neither of the two possible ways
  98. [20:56:37] <gsnedders> I wonder how many implementations:
  99. [20:56:43] <gsnedders> a) Treat @profile as a single URI
  100. [20:57:04] <gsnedders> b) Treat @profile as a whitespace-seperated list of URIs
  101. [20:57:08] <gsnedders> b) Ignore @profile
  102. [20:57:12] <gsnedders> *c)
  103. [20:57:43] <Amorphous> i wonder if there is any application at all that looks into the profile attribute besides validators
  104. [20:58:21] <gsnedders> Amorphous: Other conformance checkers? :P
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  106. [21:03:30] <Amorphous> :-O i read http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab/ as http://www.w3.org/2005/10/profile ... didn't knew about the vocab one
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  109. [21:08:51] <Amorphous> i suppose i could just use http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/structured.html#linkTypes as the profile uri *g*
  110. [21:11:22] <Amorphous> that would at least satisfy any human reader and any html4 conformance checker...
  111. [21:18:46] <gsnedders> Amorphous: Or you could just use HTML 5 :P
  112. [21:19:12] <gsnedders> Amorphous: Because for some odd reason I think it has those link types in it
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  114. [21:25:06] <Amorphous> gsnedders, i wish i could do that already. but afaik it's still a working draft and the the project i'm currently working on needs something more ... stable.
  115. [21:25:59] <gsnedders> Amorphous: Well, you can't really rely on the link definitions either, though I doubt there will be any major changes anywhere
  116. [21:27:03] <Amorphous> gsnedders, i would assume that the following uri will be stable enough http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-html5-20080610/structured.html#linkTypes
  117. [21:27:11] <gsnedders> Amorphous: yeah
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