IRC Log for #microformats on 2008-07-26
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[[User:Lenneth]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Lenneth * Lenneth * (+81)
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- [08:57:22] <tobyink>
I was hoping to catch Amorphous because I noticed his question on the IRC logs.
- [08:58:04] <tobyink>
But for the logs, the reason http://buzzword.org.uk/profiles/2008/03/ doesn't have rel=icon is because rel=icon is not a microformat.
- [08:58:34] <tobyink>
However, if people want to use rel=icon, the profile here: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab does include it.
- [08:59:13] <tobyink>
You can make use of both profiles using <head profile="http://buzzword.org.uk/profiles/2008/03/ http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab">
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[[xfn-implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-implementations&diff=0&oldid=27882 * DmitryDzhus * (+288) visualizers and browsers -
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[[profile-uris]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=profile-uris&diff=0&oldid=27883 * TobyInk * (+49) Individual Microformats - Add hAudio
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- [20:41:18] <Amorphous>
tobyink, two profile uris don't work out because the dtd for html4 only expects one, thus it would be nice to have one for all...
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- [20:50:19] <gsnedders>
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/global.html#h-7.4.1 contradicts that, but that's unlikely to be fixed
- [20:50:55] <gsnedders>
(though technically that definition isn't actually a conformance constraint, so it is purely informative)
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- [20:54:38] <Amorphous>
gsnedders, yes the text below http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/global.html#adef-profile contradicts it's heading and the dtd...
- [20:55:12] <gsnedders>
HTML 4 is _so_ well written :\
- [20:55:17] <Amorphous>
so the only way to be safe is to break neither of the two possible ways
- [20:56:37] <gsnedders>
I wonder how many implementations:
- [20:56:43] <gsnedders>
a) Treat @profile as a single URI
- [20:57:04] <gsnedders>
b) Treat @profile as a whitespace-seperated list of URIs
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b) Ignore @profile
- [20:57:12] <gsnedders>
*c)
- [20:57:43] <Amorphous>
i wonder if there is any application at all that looks into the profile attribute besides validators
- [20:58:21] <gsnedders>
Amorphous: Other conformance checkers? :P
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- [21:03:30] <Amorphous>
:-O i read http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab/ as http://www.w3.org/2005/10/profile ... didn't knew about the vocab one
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- [21:08:51] <Amorphous>
i suppose i could just use http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/structured.html#linkTypes as the profile uri *g*
- [21:11:22] <Amorphous>
that would at least satisfy any human reader and any html4 conformance checker...
- [21:18:46] <gsnedders>
Amorphous: Or you could just use HTML 5 :P
- [21:19:12] <gsnedders>
Amorphous: Because for some odd reason I think it has those link types in it
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- [21:25:06] <Amorphous>
gsnedders, i wish i could do that already. but afaik it's still a working draft and the the project i'm currently working on needs something more ... stable.
- [21:25:59] <gsnedders>
Amorphous: Well, you can't really rely on the link definitions either, though I doubt there will be any major changes anywhere
- [21:27:03] <Amorphous>
gsnedders, i would assume that the following uri will be stable enough http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-html5-20080610/structured.html#linkTypes
- [21:27:11] <gsnedders>
Amorphous: yeah
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