IRC Log for #microformats on 2009-01-13

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  3. [22:00:00] * Set by tantek on Mon Apr 09 17:30:07 CEST 2007
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  7. [22:06:07] <tantek> kingryan, what do you think of the potential fragility of URL shortening services in comparison to the convenience / lessnoise of shorter URLs? e.g. http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/tr.im
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  15. [22:43:54] * DanC has a bad feeling about putting the shortening services in the critical path
  16. [22:44:00] <DanC> for mfbot it's prolly ok
  17. [22:46:00] <benward_> Ryan and I felt that shortening them would make the notifications less obtrusive
  18. [22:47:05] <benward_> Certainly it limits their permanence, though.
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  20. [22:48:08] <benward_> Might be worth seeing if there's a unique id for the edit that can be appended if someone ever wanted to crossreference a notifcation with the wiki history
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  24. [23:19:41] <tantek> DanC isn't there a TAG finding re: URL shortening services and the fragility it introduces?
  25. [23:19:49] <tantek> er, they introduce
  26. [23:19:49] <DanC> heh
  27. [23:19:59] <tantek> to the web-like nature of the web
  28. [23:20:04] <tantek> I mean, seems pretty fundamental
  29. [23:20:26] <DanC> webarch frowns on aliases
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  34. [23:29:47] <tantek> DanC citation?
  35. [23:33:18] <DanC> http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#avoid-uri-aliases
  36. [23:34:48] * DanC wonders if google follows redirects when computing link karma
  37. [23:36:21] <DanC> but no, the TAG hasn't written anything specifically about lots of links being redirected thru a few services
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  46. [23:51:35] <mfbot> hello world!
  47. [23:54:40] <tobyink> this mfbot is a friendly fellow
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  50. [23:55:05] <tobyink> but no stamina
  51. [23:55:07] <kingryan> :)
  52. [23:55:12] <kingryan> he's being worked on
  53. [23:55:39] <mfbot> RyanKing edited mfbot "test" (+6) http://is.gd/fMmp
  54. [23:55:43] <tobyink> no stamina when he's being worked on?
  55. [23:56:03] <kingryan> no, he just needs to be restarted to try out the new code
  56. [23:56:17] <kingryan> (this is the test environment :))
  57. [23:56:43] <tobyink> I was attempting a double entente
  58. [23:56:48] <kingryan> ah
  59. [23:57:11] <benward_> Well, I lolled.
  60. [23:57:38] <kingryan> benward_: any feedback on the new mfbot?
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  62. [23:59:47] <benward_> DanC mentioned about an issue with resilience of shortened URLs in logs, since they could disappear one day. Is there a unique ID of the edit we can put in the message for archival purposes?

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