IRC Log for #microformats on 2009-01-13
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- [22:00:00] * Topic is 'http://microformats.org/wiki/irc - if you are new here, add yourself to http://microformats.org/wiki/irc-people'
- [22:00:00] * Set by tantek on Mon Apr 09 17:30:07 CEST 2007
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- [22:06:07] <tantek>
kingryan, what do you think of the potential fragility of URL shortening services in comparison to the convenience / lessnoise of shorter URLs? e.g. http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/tr.im
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- [22:43:54] * DanC has a bad feeling about putting the shortening services in the critical path
- [22:44:00] <DanC>
for mfbot it's prolly ok
- [22:46:00] <benward_>
Ryan and I felt that shortening them would make the notifications less obtrusive
- [22:47:05] <benward_>
Certainly it limits their permanence, though.
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- [22:48:08] <benward_>
Might be worth seeing if there's a unique id for the edit that can be appended if someone ever wanted to crossreference a notifcation with the wiki history
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- [23:19:41] <tantek>
DanC isn't there a TAG finding re: URL shortening services and the fragility it introduces?
- [23:19:49] <tantek>
er, they introduce
- [23:19:49] <DanC>
heh
- [23:19:59] <tantek>
to the web-like nature of the web
- [23:20:04] <tantek>
I mean, seems pretty fundamental
- [23:20:26] <DanC>
webarch frowns on aliases
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- [23:29:47] <tantek>
DanC citation?
- [23:33:18] <DanC>
http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#avoid-uri-aliases
- [23:34:48] * DanC wonders if google follows redirects when computing link karma
- [23:36:21] <DanC>
but no, the TAG hasn't written anything specifically about lots of links being redirected thru a few services
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- [23:51:35] <mfbot>
hello world!
- [23:54:40] <tobyink>
this mfbot is a friendly fellow
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- [23:55:05] <tobyink>
but no stamina
- [23:55:07] <kingryan>
:)
- [23:55:12] <kingryan>
he's being worked on
- [23:55:39] <mfbot>
RyanKing edited mfbot "test" (+6) http://is.gd/fMmp
- [23:55:43] <tobyink>
no stamina when he's being worked on?
- [23:56:03] <kingryan>
no, he just needs to be restarted to try out the new code
- [23:56:17] <kingryan>
(this is the test environment :))
- [23:56:43] <tobyink>
I was attempting a double entente
- [23:56:48] <kingryan>
ah
- [23:57:11] <benward_>
Well, I lolled.
- [23:57:38] <kingryan>
benward_: any feedback on the new mfbot?
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- [23:59:47] <benward_>
DanC mentioned about an issue with resilience of shortened URLs in logs, since they could disappear one day. Is there a unique ID of the edit we can put in the message for archival purposes?
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