IRC Log for #microformats on 2009-04-02

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  96. [15:55:01] <mfbot> Tantek edited plain-xml "add Mark Pilgrim's article XML on the Web Has Failed from 2004!" (+152) http://is.gd/qjHu
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  111. [18:15:52] <jb2> hmmm, is http://ocoins.info/ the gold standard in embedding bibliographical metadata in web pages?
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  116. [18:47:03] <tantek> jb2, there is no one dominant/gold standard for bibliographic metadata, in web pages or otherwise. there is *lots* of varied competing prior art: http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-formats
  117. [18:47:56] <jb2> yes, I noticed that list and was wondering if anything had panned out
  118. [18:48:08] <tantek> it's a very complex thorny problem
  119. [18:48:22] <tantek> having had lots of smart people attempt to solve it in the past
  120. [18:49:24] <jb2> ocoins is working on several major sites, so I was wondering if it's worth embedding on a few sites I'm working on
  121. [18:55:34] <mfbot> Tantek edited citation-brainstorming "link to overall effort, contributors redundant with wiki history, removed signatures from purely factual/objective contributions, page still needs a bit more cleanup/reorganizing" (-397) http://is.gd/qlMs
  122. [18:55:56] <tantek> jb2, current brainstorming is still very much brainstorming here: http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-brainstorming
  123. [18:56:59] <tantek> if ocoins is working on several major sites, it would be great if you could add "ocoins" as a new section in http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-formats and note at least a few of the major sites that you've seen it working on
  124. [18:57:26] <tantek> that would greatly help shape the direction of the brainstorming to being focused on compatibility with what works today
  125. [18:58:27] <jb2> ok, I had Wikipedia and CiteULike in mind. Also, clients like BookEnds (Mac) recognize it
  126. [18:58:38] <tantek> definitely worth adding to the wiki
  127. [18:58:48] <jb2> ok
  128. [18:58:53] <jb2> will do
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  131. [19:21:59] <tantek> jb2 - in looking closer at that page, it's quite a mess (the citation-formats)
  132. [19:22:06] <tantek> I'm doing some wiki clean-up on it
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  134. [19:25:34] <mfbot> Tantek edited citation-formats "reorganization iteration, grouped other formats, vs. analysis, moved a proposal on external site from brainstorming page to formats page" (+2731) http://is.gd/qm7o
  135. [19:27:48] <jb2> tantek: yes it is rather confusing. I'll add the little I know to it this evening then.
  136. [19:28:36] <tantek> citation-formats should be a bit more usable now
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  138. [19:31:01] <mfbot> Tantek edited hcard "Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Grummfy2|Grummfy2]] ([[User talk:Grummfy2|Talk]]) to last version by [[User:Sdsantos|Sdsantos]]" (-199) http://is.gd/qmbt
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  140. [19:36:28] <mfbot> Tantek edited service-formats "link to overview page, note problem with theoretical issues" (+204) http://is.gd/qmeM
  141. [19:37:01] <mfbot> Tantek edited service-formats "fix link" (+8) http://is.gd/qmf8
  142. [19:38:17] <mfbot> Tantek edited service "fix naming of subpages per [[process]]" (-17) http://is.gd/qmfL
  143. [19:40:14] <mfbot> Tantek edited service-brainstorming "link to overview" (+66) http://is.gd/qmh0
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  145. [19:47:11] <mfbot> Tantek edited hresume "Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Socialcoop|Socialcoop]] ([[User talk:Socialcoop|Talk]]) to last version by [[User:Copperblade|Copperblade]]" (-658) http://is.gd/qml9
  146. [19:49:20] <mfbot> Tantek edited citation-brainstorming "some more restructuring/organizing, grouped use cases, proposals, relation/use of other microformats, issues, moved a proposal on external site from brainstorming page to formats page" (+15149) http://is.gd/qmmk
  147. [19:54:10] <tantek> jb2 also, if/when you see user "briansuda", ask him about citations, as he's done a lot of the groundwork in that area
  148. [19:54:45] <jb2> tantek: ok, thanks for the heads-up
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