IRC Log for #microformats on 2009-06-28

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  1. [00:01:48] <mfbot> Tantek edited en-us-faq "/* why not use other spellings and languages for properties */ move "Language Maps" mention from main [[faq]] to here" (+152) http://is.gd/1gnUC
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  5. [00:18:46] <mfbot> Tantek edited faq "update CC-BY to PD since 2007-12-29, link admins, linked to en-US FAQ for more detail on a q" (-3) http://is.gd/1gos8
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  7. [00:34:30] <mfbot> Tantek edited hcard-authoring "move add to address book link just after 5 min hCard so it's easier to find something so useful, used a more generic id as example, matching previous examples" (+149) http://is.gd/1gp2o
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  14. [00:51:58] <mfbot> Tantek edited events/2009-06-26-microformats-4th-bday "added short URL" (+36) http://is.gd/1gpHx
  15. [00:57:13] <mfbot> Tantek edited optimus "add entry title and short URL" (+108) http://is.gd/1gpUj
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  18. [01:24:27] <mfbot> Tantek edited twitter-syntax "/* Messages */ noted emergent use of ".@" to work around Twitter's alteration of how @-replies work" (+466) http://is.gd/1gr3W
  19. [01:25:32] <mfbot> Tantek edited twitter-syntax "/* Messages */ oops. rm errant copy buffer paste." (-21) http://is.gd/1gr6F
  20. [01:25:55] <mfbot> Tantek edited rel-me "entry title and short URL" (+50) http://is.gd/1gr7x
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  22. [01:32:47] <mfbot> Tantek edited picoformats "add short URL" (+36) http://is.gd/1grsV
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  93. [20:26:55] <Zitter> which microformats can I use to describe an email, date, author and so on?
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  98. [20:39:07] <Phae> Zitter author is generally hcard
  99. [20:39:20] <Phae> what's the date in? you should see the date-time-patterm
  100. [20:40:03] <Zitter> I would like to use for and ads website
  101. [20:40:16] <Zitter> so date will be ad published date
  102. [20:41:19] <Phae> have a look at hatom maybe. that handles publish dates of an item and other details (depends how it is... if they read like posts or some such)
  103. [20:41:42] <Zitter> ok
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  118. [21:54:44] <tantek> Zitter, could you provide a URL showing examples of the email, date, author and so on that you would like to mark up?
  119. [21:55:57] <Zitter> http://classified.ipercollege.dyndns.org/annunci.html
  120. [21:56:13] <Zitter> (wow... tantek!)
  121. [21:57:09] <Zitter> as you can see sometime there are phone number, or email (when a poster wants to show them)
  122. [21:57:32] <Zitter> images too I would like to microformatted
  123. [21:58:49] <Zitter> date, instead, is present in ad detail
  124. [21:59:01] <Zitter> published and expired date
  125. [22:16:02] <Zitter> any hint?
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  127. [22:29:29] <tantek> Zitter, those look like job and rental postings mostly
  128. [22:30:11] <tantek> posted at certain times
  129. [22:30:23] <tantek> as announcements
  130. [22:30:39] <tantek> each announcement itself could be marked up as an hAtom entry http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom
  131. [22:31:06] <tantek> inside each entry, you could markup the job/rental/other listing using the hListing draft: http://microformats.org/wiki/hlisting
  132. [22:31:52] <Zitter> thanks a lot :)
  133. [22:31:55] <tantek> each hListing entry has a "lister" which refers to the person posting the listing, and inside that "lister" is where you would put the hCard with their name, contact info (email etc.)
  134. [22:32:30] <Zitter> ok
  135. [22:32:32] <tantek> so in summary: whole page = series of hAtom entries. inside each hAtom entry put an hListing. inside the hListing put an hCard "lister" with the contact info.
  136. [22:32:41] <tantek> hope that helps!
  137. [22:33:09] <Zitter> i'm really new to mf
  138. [22:33:47] <Zitter> but they are, in substance, a group of definied class and attributes to assign to tags, right?
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  142. [23:02:39] <tantek> Zitter, this presentation may help introduce what are microformats and how they came about: http://tantek.com/presentations/2006/07/what-are-microformats/
  143. [23:03:16] <tantek> also, here are a bunch of answers to the question "What are microformats?" by many members of the microformats community - often hearing different perspectives helps: http://microformats.org/wiki/what-are-microformats
  144. [23:09:08] <Zitter> question: is tag important? I mean: <ol class="vcalendar"><li class="vevent"><a href="#" class="url"><span class="summary"> and so on... can I substitute span with h3, for example?
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  147. [23:09:54] <Zitter> beacuse "summary" in the page is important so I would like to assign it a heading h3
  148. [23:10:38] <tantek> yes, span and div are just used as examples, you should use the most semantic tag that is appropriate for the specific piece of content. See: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Q._Why_do_the_examples_on_the_wiki_use_.3Cspan.3E_and_.3Cdiv.3E_for_nearly_everything.3F
  149. [23:13:43] <Zitter> thanks for everything... good night from italy :)
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