IRC Log for #microformats on 2009-06-28
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Tantek edited en-us-faq "/* why not use other spellings and languages for properties */ move "Language Maps" mention from main [[faq]] to here" (+152) http://is.gd/1gnUC
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Tantek created mailing lists "friendly redir" http://is.gd/1gohw
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Tantek created administrators "friendly redir" http://is.gd/1gohA
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Tantek edited faq "update CC-BY to PD since 2007-12-29, link admins, linked to en-US FAQ for more detail on a q" (-3) http://is.gd/1gos8
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Tantek created Microformats:Copyrights "making a red link blue" http://is.gd/1goXJ
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Tantek edited hcard-authoring "move add to address book link just after 5 min hCard so it's easier to find something so useful, used a more generic id as example, matching previous examples" (+149) http://is.gd/1gp2o
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Tantek edited hcard-authoring "fix entry title, add short URL" (+36) http://is.gd/1gpj3
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Tantek edited events/2009-06-26-microformats-4th-bday "added short URL" (+36) http://is.gd/1gpHx
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Tantek edited optimus "add entry title and short URL" (+108) http://is.gd/1gpUj
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Tantek edited rel-tag "add short URL" (+33) http://is.gd/1gqsM
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Tantek edited twitter-syntax "/* Messages */ noted emergent use of ".@" to work around Twitter's alteration of how @-replies work" (+466) http://is.gd/1gr3W
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Tantek edited twitter-syntax "/* Messages */ oops. rm errant copy buffer paste." (-21) http://is.gd/1gr6F
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Tantek edited rel-me "entry title and short URL" (+50) http://is.gd/1gr7x
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Tantek edited twitter-syntax "entry title, short URL" (+51) http://is.gd/1griq
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Tantek edited picoformats "add short URL" (+36) http://is.gd/1grsV
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Tantek edited naming-principles "entry title, short URL" (+36) http://is.gd/1grVQ
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- [20:26:55] <Zitter>
which microformats can I use to describe an email, date, author and so on?
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- [20:39:07] <Phae>
Zitter author is generally hcard
- [20:39:20] <Phae>
what's the date in? you should see the date-time-patterm
- [20:40:03] <Zitter>
I would like to use for and ads website
- [20:40:16] <Zitter>
so date will be ad published date
- [20:41:19] <Phae>
have a look at hatom maybe. that handles publish dates of an item and other details (depends how it is... if they read like posts or some such)
- [20:41:42] <Zitter>
ok
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- [21:54:44] <tantek>
Zitter, could you provide a URL showing examples of the email, date, author and so on that you would like to mark up?
- [21:55:57] <Zitter>
http://classified.ipercollege.dyndns.org/annunci.html
- [21:56:13] <Zitter>
(wow... tantek!)
- [21:57:09] <Zitter>
as you can see sometime there are phone number, or email (when a poster wants to show them)
- [21:57:32] <Zitter>
images too I would like to microformatted
- [21:58:49] <Zitter>
date, instead, is present in ad detail
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published and expired date
- [22:16:02] <Zitter>
any hint?
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- [22:29:29] <tantek>
Zitter, those look like job and rental postings mostly
- [22:30:11] <tantek>
posted at certain times
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as announcements
- [22:30:39] <tantek>
each announcement itself could be marked up as an hAtom entry http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom
- [22:31:06] <tantek>
inside each entry, you could markup the job/rental/other listing using the hListing draft: http://microformats.org/wiki/hlisting
- [22:31:52] <Zitter>
thanks a lot :)
- [22:31:55] <tantek>
each hListing entry has a "lister" which refers to the person posting the listing, and inside that "lister" is where you would put the hCard with their name, contact info (email etc.)
- [22:32:30] <Zitter>
ok
- [22:32:32] <tantek>
so in summary: whole page = series of hAtom entries. inside each hAtom entry put an hListing. inside the hListing put an hCard "lister" with the contact info.
- [22:32:41] <tantek>
hope that helps!
- [22:33:09] <Zitter>
i'm really new to mf
- [22:33:47] <Zitter>
but they are, in substance, a group of definied class and attributes to assign to tags, right?
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- [23:02:39] <tantek>
Zitter, this presentation may help introduce what are microformats and how they came about: http://tantek.com/presentations/2006/07/what-are-microformats/
- [23:03:16] <tantek>
also, here are a bunch of answers to the question "What are microformats?" by many members of the microformats community - often hearing different perspectives helps: http://microformats.org/wiki/what-are-microformats
- [23:09:08] <Zitter>
question: is tag important? I mean: <ol class="vcalendar"><li class="vevent"><a href="#" class="url"><span class="summary"> and so on... can I substitute span with h3, for example?
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- [23:09:54] <Zitter>
beacuse "summary" in the page is important so I would like to assign it a heading h3
- [23:10:38] <tantek>
yes, span and div are just used as examples, you should use the most semantic tag that is appropriate for the specific piece of content. See: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Q._Why_do_the_examples_on_the_wiki_use_.3Cspan.3E_and_.3Cdiv.3E_for_nearly_everything.3F
- [23:13:43] <Zitter>
thanks for everything... good night from italy :)
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