IRC Log for #microformats on 2010-01-13
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- [15:32:57] <mwunsch>
How should a Microformat parser interpret a rel-tag?
- [15:34:23] <mwunsch>
In other words, If i'm extracting rel tags from a document, how should i maintain them? As a hash?
- [15:35:43] <mwunsch>
Or just as a string as in "This document is tagged 'foo'"
- [15:38:45] <Phae>
a hash seems more flexible
- [15:40:05] <Phae>
often the href value is more useful to someone
- [15:44:41] <mwunsch>
The hash would look like {"tag_name" => "tag_url"} ?
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- [16:07:52] <Phae>
yeah
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- [16:16:20] <mwunsch>
I hope nobody minds. I'm working on Yet Another Microformat Parser
- [16:26:14] <Phae>
you could always garner opinion from potential users of it
- [16:26:35] <Phae>
but i'd go with the most flexible implementation. providing a string is maybe a harder decision
- [16:27:46] <tantek>
mwunsch - that's almost certainly a good thing :)
- [16:28:59] <mwunsch>
Phae: Here's what I ended up doing. It parses as a hash "tag_name" => "tag_url"
- [16:29:09] <mwunsch>
However, when converted to a string, it just comes out with "tag_name"
- [16:29:22] <mwunsch>
so you can do with it what you want
- [16:29:27] <Phae>
m'k. sounds fair
- [16:29:38] <Phae>
and yes, i agree with tantek. good for someone to be working on it :)
- [16:29:46] <mwunsch>
Will be on GitHub soon
- [16:29:49] <Phae>
cools.
- [16:29:52] <tantek>
nice!
- [16:29:59] <Phae>
i'm quite into git lately
- [16:30:24] <mwunsch>
phae: yeah it's great: easy branching/merging. github is a great place to share
- [16:30:49] <Phae>
yeah, definitely
- [16:32:36] <mwunsch>
For Rel License
- [16:32:44] <mwunsch>
What should parsers extract? Just the URL?
- [16:32:56] <mwunsch>
Or does the text value of the a element matter at all?
- [16:33:12] <mwunsch>
should i ignore the value similar to rel-tag?
- [16:33:20] <Phae>
i imagine you'll find the text value fairly varient. the URL is what matters in that case, imho.
- [16:33:32] <mwunsch>
I agree.
- [16:33:39] <mwunsch>
Seems just like Rel-Tag,
- [16:33:58] <Phae>
i guess it's a really specialised rel-tag, if you wanted to think of it like that
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- [16:47:14] <tantek>
rel-tag is different in that it also applies semantics to the last segment of the URL
- [16:47:52] <tantek>
in addition rel-tag is scoped to a chunk of containing content (like a blog post, originally, an hCard, hCalendar event, hReview etc.), OTOH rel-license is stuck with being scoped to the whole document
- [16:48:17] <mwunsch>
Can you encapsulate rel-license?
- [16:48:19] <mwunsch>
Like say
- [16:48:22] <mwunsch>
you're using hAtom
- [16:48:42] <mwunsch>
and one particular entry-content in hAtom has a CC license
- [16:48:49] <mwunsch>
I guess that really depends on the hAtom spec, no?
- [16:51:15] <tantek>
mwunsch - no you can't, because rel-license started with document level scoping (my fault)
- [16:51:24] <tantek>
hence we have been developing the licensing microformat to deal with that
- [16:51:37] <tantek>
http://microformats.org/wiki/licensing - feedback/contributions to the brainstorming encouraged!
- [16:51:41] <mwunsch>
Ahh alright
- [16:57:03] <mwunsch>
Ahh and I see that rel-license can also be on a <link> element (which rel-tag forbids)
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- [21:39:22] <mwunsch>
for VoteLink parsing
- [21:39:45] <mwunsch>
am i right in thinking that the text value of the link doesn't matter? what matters is the rev + href + title
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