IRC Log for #microformats on 2010-01-13

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  90. [15:32:57] <mwunsch> How should a Microformat parser interpret a rel-tag?
  91. [15:34:23] <mwunsch> In other words, If i'm extracting rel tags from a document, how should i maintain them? As a hash?
  92. [15:35:43] <mwunsch> Or just as a string as in "This document is tagged 'foo'"
  93. [15:38:45] <Phae> a hash seems more flexible
  94. [15:40:05] <Phae> often the href value is more useful to someone
  95. [15:44:41] <mwunsch> The hash would look like {"tag_name" => "tag_url"} ?
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  97. [16:07:52] <Phae> yeah
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  102. [16:16:20] <mwunsch> I hope nobody minds. I'm working on Yet Another Microformat Parser
  103. [16:26:14] <Phae> you could always garner opinion from potential users of it
  104. [16:26:35] <Phae> but i'd go with the most flexible implementation. providing a string is maybe a harder decision
  105. [16:27:46] <tantek> mwunsch - that's almost certainly a good thing :)
  106. [16:28:59] <mwunsch> Phae: Here's what I ended up doing. It parses as a hash "tag_name" => "tag_url"
  107. [16:29:09] <mwunsch> However, when converted to a string, it just comes out with "tag_name"
  108. [16:29:22] <mwunsch> so you can do with it what you want
  109. [16:29:27] <Phae> m'k. sounds fair
  110. [16:29:38] <Phae> and yes, i agree with tantek. good for someone to be working on it :)
  111. [16:29:46] <mwunsch> Will be on GitHub soon
  112. [16:29:49] <Phae> cools.
  113. [16:29:52] <tantek> nice!
  114. [16:29:59] <Phae> i'm quite into git lately
  115. [16:30:24] <mwunsch> phae: yeah it's great: easy branching/merging. github is a great place to share
  116. [16:30:49] <Phae> yeah, definitely
  117. [16:32:36] <mwunsch> For Rel License
  118. [16:32:44] <mwunsch> What should parsers extract? Just the URL?
  119. [16:32:56] <mwunsch> Or does the text value of the a element matter at all?
  120. [16:33:12] <mwunsch> should i ignore the value similar to rel-tag?
  121. [16:33:20] <Phae> i imagine you'll find the text value fairly varient. the URL is what matters in that case, imho.
  122. [16:33:32] <mwunsch> I agree.
  123. [16:33:39] <mwunsch> Seems just like Rel-Tag,
  124. [16:33:58] <Phae> i guess it's a really specialised rel-tag, if you wanted to think of it like that
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  126. [16:47:14] <tantek> rel-tag is different in that it also applies semantics to the last segment of the URL
  127. [16:47:52] <tantek> in addition rel-tag is scoped to a chunk of containing content (like a blog post, originally, an hCard, hCalendar event, hReview etc.), OTOH rel-license is stuck with being scoped to the whole document
  128. [16:48:17] <mwunsch> Can you encapsulate rel-license?
  129. [16:48:19] <mwunsch> Like say
  130. [16:48:22] <mwunsch> you're using hAtom
  131. [16:48:42] <mwunsch> and one particular entry-content in hAtom has a CC license
  132. [16:48:49] <mwunsch> I guess that really depends on the hAtom spec, no?
  133. [16:51:15] <tantek> mwunsch - no you can't, because rel-license started with document level scoping (my fault)
  134. [16:51:24] <tantek> hence we have been developing the licensing microformat to deal with that
  135. [16:51:37] <tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/licensing - feedback/contributions to the brainstorming encouraged!
  136. [16:51:41] <mwunsch> Ahh alright
  137. [16:57:03] <mwunsch> Ahh and I see that rel-license can also be on a <link> element (which rel-tag forbids)
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  166. [21:39:22] <mwunsch> for VoteLink parsing
  167. [21:39:45] <mwunsch> am i right in thinking that the text value of the link doesn't matter? what matters is the rev + href + title
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