IRC Log for #microformats on 2010-03-29
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- [15:38:13] <mwunsch>
When parsing datetimes, if no timezone is given, do we assume UTC?
- [15:38:54] <mwunsch>
From the wiki: "The lack of a timezone indicates a "floating" datetime, that is a datetime independent of any particular timezone. Examples of floating datetimes could be an alarm clock you set to ring at 7am, or the common 9am-5pm workday."
- [15:40:38] <singpolyma>
floating usually means "local time" in some contexit
- [15:41:44] <mwunsch>
singpolyma: The default behavior right now is to assume the local time zone of the parser
- [15:41:44] <mwunsch>
but this of course, can be different then the local time zone of the publisher
- [15:41:44] <singpolyma>
Right. That is probably what most parsers do
- [15:41:44] <mwunsch>
Ok, i'll continue with that behavoir
- [15:41:49] <singpolyma>
Really, having no timezone is usually not what the publisher should do
- [15:42:07] <mwunsch>
Precisely what I thought.
- [15:42:30] <mwunsch>
i'll continue with passing the valueclass tests and if i come across an error, i'll know what the expected behavior should be
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- [15:57:52] <mwunsch>
Oh man, I have a big issue with this test: http://microformats.org/wiki/value-dt-test-YYYY-MM-DD--Hpm-EEpm
- [15:58:09] <mwunsch>
It's stepping over it's boundaries, it tests for hCalendar implementation, and not just for ValueClass implementation...
- [15:59:08] <singpolyma>
It seems to be to test ValueClass as used with hCal
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- [17:54:15] <Thell>
Hello all... is there a channel stats/logs page somewhere?
- [17:54:54] <Thell>
nm, found the wiki page :)
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- [18:21:14] <mwunsch>
singpolyma: Yes but that's not a pure test of ValueClass
- [18:21:27] <mwunsch>
testing ValueClass should not test hCalendar
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- [18:28:16] <singpolyma>
mwunsch: but you may want to test both :)
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- [18:28:54] <mwunsch>
singpolyma: Well yes but the tests should not be coupled. ValueClass tests should not test for hCalendar implementation, as other microformats besides hCalendar utilize ValueClass.
- [18:29:28] <singpolyma>
You can't really test just valueclass by itself. You need some attribute to be using it inside
- [18:29:43] <mwunsch>
The argument I'm making is about the specific hCalendar implementation
- [18:29:52] <mwunsch>
Testing for impled dtend date should be a part of hCalendar tests
- [18:30:03] <mwunsch>
That is not a part of the ValueClass pattern
- [18:30:17] <mwunsch>
but the ValueClass pattern tests involve that hCalendar feature
- [18:40:49] <singpolyma>
Oh
- [18:40:50] <singpolyma>
I see
- [18:41:11] <singpolyma>
Right
- [18:41:19] <singpolyma>
I hadn't even noticed it was doing that
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- [19:13:41] <mwunsch>
Majority of the valueclass tests do that, so you can't really test them until you have an hCalendar implementation
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