IRC Log for #microformats on 2010-04-01

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  36. [14:03:15] <mwunsch> log
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  51. [19:37:07] <mwunsch> tantek: i wanted to bring up some issues i had with the ValueClass pattern tests...
  52. [19:39:19] <tantek> sure
  53. [19:46:57] <mwunsch> The valueclass tests overstep their boundaries a bit
  54. [19:47:21] <mwunsch> They test the implementation of hCalendar: by making dtend inferring the date from dtstart part of the test
  55. [19:47:33] <mwunsch> the ValueClass datetime tests are too tightly coupled to an implementation of hCalendar
  56. [19:48:04] <tantek> mwunsch - those are aspects added in the value-class-pattern spec itself
  57. [19:48:14] <mwunsch> that dtend should infer from dtstart?
  58. [19:48:29] <mwunsch> dtend and dtstart are not part of value-class, though. correct?
  59. [19:49:08] <tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/vcp#hCalendar_dtend_implied_date
  60. [19:53:29] <mwunsch> shouldn't this be a part of hcalendar -- and not vcp?
  61. [19:54:41] <mwunsch> in any case, excited to be finishing up this: http://github.com/mwunsch/prism/blob/master/lib/prism/microformat/hcalendar.rb
  62. [19:54:57] <tantek> mwunsch, yes that change is going into hCalendar 1.0.1
  63. [19:55:05] <mwunsch> OK
  64. [19:55:51] <mwunsch> in any case, i dont think its the role of the vcp tests to determine how hCalendar should infer dates. Instead, it should only test VCP: concatenation of values, etc. etc.
  65. [19:55:53] <tantek> similarly with the updated/published and hAtom
  66. [19:56:20] <tantek> the point of the VCP tests testing that *is* to check that feature of VCP
  67. [19:56:49] <tantek> since VCP for dates and times is semantic concatenation, not literal concatenation
  68. [19:57:11] <tantek> in this case, semantically concatenating the date from one property to the time of another
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  80. [21:25:55] <mwunsch> Oh tantek, btw, I gave a presentation to Scripps about microformats/lowercase semantic web
  81. [21:26:01] <mwunsch> last week. care to see the slides?
  82. [21:26:27] <tantek> oh awesome! definitely make a entry/page for it on the events page: http://microformats.org/wiki/events
  83. [21:26:51] <tantek> and post a link to the slides to http://microformats.org/wiki/presentations
  84. [21:39:59] <mwunsch> http://280slides.com/Viewer/?user=17654&name=BrownBag%3A%20Microformats%20and%20the%20Semantic%20Web&fullscreen
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