IRC Log for #microformats on 2010-07-12

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  34. [13:35:49] <boblet> adactio: yt?
  35. [13:35:59] <adactio> i am
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  37. [13:36:50] <boblet> Estelle pinged me (for unknown reasons :) about www.microformats.org being broken in FF and Opera. Did you see the tweet?
  38. [13:37:04] <Phae> i responded to that tweet to @microformats
  39. [13:37:06] <Phae> it was working for me
  40. [13:37:25] <Phae> oh
  41. [13:37:38] <Phae> i didn't see her say F/op only.
  42. [13:37:47] <boblet> I followed up
  43. [13:38:27] <Phae> what did she say was broken to you?
  44. [13:38:38] <boblet> looks like it gets to b.scorecardresearch.com or www.google-analytics.com (Transferring data from… in the info bar) then hangs
  45. [13:38:56] <Phae> it isn't failing for me. hmm.
  46. [13:39:02] <boblet> she said no content, and that’s what I’m seeing in FF 3.6.6 atm
  47. [13:40:33] <boblet> (I’ve tried reloading a few times, it got stuck on the scorecard domain once then all other times on GA domain) — basically looks like timeout, but content loaded up til that point is cleared and no page source
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  50. [13:44:05] <boblet> using Firebug the loaded content gets replaced with this: http://pastie.org/1040869
  51. [13:44:50] <boblet> looks like Comscore Beacon’s JS is wigging out
  52. [13:45:52] <boblet> or the combo of Google Analytics and Comscore Beacon maybe :)
  53. [13:47:16] <Phae> yeah, i'm not sure
  54. [13:49:06] <Phae> i'll ping something around on email. i think rohit maybe able to help.
  55. [13:49:20] <boblet> Phae: thanks
  56. [13:50:18] <boblet> Phae: was thinking to do it but my µF email sub seems to be broken — resetting password atm. IRC is faster
  57. [13:51:59] <Phae> sure
  58. [13:52:15] <boblet> (well, when someone’s here :) )
  59. [13:52:28] <Phae> hey, some of us have to work you know :P
  60. [13:52:52] <boblet> and others of us don’t? ;)
  61. [13:53:09] <Phae> :P
  62. [13:53:44] <boblet> yeah seems t has been working a lot recently — have been wanting to ask about the microdata warnings on the µF in HTML5 page (am pretty sure that’s just out-of-date info now)
  63. [13:53:58] <boblet> Phae: you don’t know about that by any chance do you?
  64. [13:54:10] <Phae> yeah, probably.
  65. [13:54:30] <Phae> specifically that one page? i happened to send it to someone the other day, but it looked untouched recently
  66. [13:54:39] <boblet> what’s the reasoning? was thinking to just change it but wanted to check
  67. [13:55:00] <Phae> busy-ness. go ahead and update it if you have the time
  68. [13:55:11] <Phae> many hands, and all that jazz.
  69. [13:55:32] <boblet> yeah. I gather that last year microdata’s vcard etc specs were based on hCard, hence Tantek’s warning, but they’re now based on vcard directly
  70. [13:55:48] <Phae> that sounds about right
  71. [13:55:51] <boblet> bottom comment on the page is mine ;-)
  72. [13:55:57] <Phae> ah!
  73. [13:56:05] <boblet> k, wanted to check there wasn’t something else I was missing — will change
  74. [14:09:15] <boblet> phae: if you’re still there a couple more questions — know if there’s any movement on HTML5 support, or even just “it works” verification? (btw if I can help on this let me know how)
  75. [14:10:02] <boblet> also know of any microdata-consuming tools, such as a Firefox plugin? I’ve only come across foolip’s Live Microdata so far
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  77. [14:27:30] <Phae> boblet: i'm not aware of any tools that'll do that. is there much microdata out there to fish for?
  78. [14:28:15] <boblet> phae: not yet — writing about it for HTML5Doctors so want to make sure I’m not missing anything
  79. [14:28:32] <boblet> (filed a req with Operator earlier)
  80. [14:51:30] <boblet> Phae: http://microformats.org/wiki/html5#microdata
  81. [14:54:44] <boblet> still not sure why Tantek wrote “encourage HTML5 to drop their vocabulary and use µF vocabulary instead” on all the brainstorming pages
  82. [14:57:21] <Phae> 'all the brainstorming pages'?
  83. [15:00:20] <boblet> the three under http://microformats.org/wiki/html5#Requests
  84. [15:02:07] <Phae> oh. i see. yeah. just where there's divergence.
  85. [15:03:02] <boblet> how do hCard and hCalendar diverge from vCard and iCalendar?
  86. [15:05:46] <boblet> phae: crashing, so I’ll email the list about it
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