IRC Log for #openid on 2007-01-05
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- [00:21:14] <nicolast>
MicroID claming support has been added (except a frontend). night all!
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- [06:24:49] <myren>
thank god you are here. :/
- [06:25:10] <myren>
what does an identity provider do to determine whether a request is authorized?
- [06:25:34] <myren>
how does the browser authenticate to the identity provider
- [06:25:36] <Osurac>
myren are you an identity provider?
- [06:25:42] <myren>
i will be yes
- [06:25:47] <Osurac>
interesting
- [06:25:51] <Osurac>
what is your website name?
- [06:25:56] <myren>
but pretend i'm using livejournal or something
- [06:26:14] <Osurac>
are you writing your own openid server?
- [06:26:17] <myren>
i will be
- [06:26:20] <myren>
once i understand this
- [06:26:41] <myren>
if i go on someone's blog and try to authenticate with my lj openid, how does my identity provider know whether to auth or not?
- [06:26:46] <myren>
i'm making a request to the consumer
- [06:26:48] <myren>
relaying party
- [06:26:58] <myren>
my browser isnt requesting auth from lj, afaik
- [06:27:12] <myren>
what transacts the challenge/response?
- [06:27:49] <Osurac>
I am going to be an identity provider also
- [06:30:27] <myren>
ahh so the consumer constructs a url for a redirect for the user's browser
- [06:31:13] <myren>
finally a god damn doc taht explains something
- [06:32:11] <Osurac>
which one?
- [06:32:36] <myren>
lol, the authentication flow diagram
- [06:32:46] <myren>
its the only thing that just says "the magic mechanism is url redirects"
- [06:32:49] <myren>
_thank god_
- [06:34:05] <Osurac>
do you have a link?
- [06:35:47] <myren>
second link on this page: http://openid.net/about.bml
- [06:36:03] <myren>
i would have already tossed openid aside if i hadnt found that
- [06:36:10] <myren>
its the _only_ coherent explanation of the damned thing
- [06:38:16] <Osurac>
yea the spec seems convoluted
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- [15:08:36] <nicolast>
cygnus: I got fairly complete microid checking support in djangoid now too
- [15:08:56] <nicolast>
see http://id.nicolast.be/nicolas/ (needs layout/design work of course)
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- [17:37:03] <cygnus>
nicolast: cool
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xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
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- [19:07:19] <SamRose>
maybe you all have discussed this here in the past, but, does anyone know the state of OpenID in the realm of e-commerce. A google search turns up a few ideas and discussions, but not much else
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- [19:16:08] <sanedragon>
SamRose, the main trouble is that there's not a trust architecture for openid, so one doesn't necessarily know if a user's IDP is secure. IDP whitelists could work for this.
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- [19:17:36] <SamRose>
sanedragon: Thanks for the info. I may set up a wiki space to brainstorm this, unless I can find this conversation already going on somewhere else...
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- [19:20:30] <sanedragon>
cool, let us know the URL if you do set up a wiki
- [19:20:56] <sanedragon>
or if you find a conversation in progress, for that matter.
- [19:22:36] <SamRose>
sanedragon:sure thing
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