IRC Log for #openid on 2007-01-05

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  4. [00:21:14] <nicolast> MicroID claming support has been added (except a frontend). night all!
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  18. [06:24:49] <myren> thank god you are here. :/
  19. [06:25:10] <myren> what does an identity provider do to determine whether a request is authorized?
  20. [06:25:34] <myren> how does the browser authenticate to the identity provider
  21. [06:25:36] <Osurac> myren are you an identity provider?
  22. [06:25:42] <myren> i will be yes
  23. [06:25:47] <Osurac> interesting
  24. [06:25:51] <Osurac> what is your website name?
  25. [06:25:56] <myren> but pretend i'm using livejournal or something
  26. [06:26:14] <Osurac> are you writing your own openid server?
  27. [06:26:17] <myren> i will be
  28. [06:26:20] <myren> once i understand this
  29. [06:26:41] <myren> if i go on someone's blog and try to authenticate with my lj openid, how does my identity provider know whether to auth or not?
  30. [06:26:46] <myren> i'm making a request to the consumer
  31. [06:26:48] <myren> relaying party
  32. [06:26:58] <myren> my browser isnt requesting auth from lj, afaik
  33. [06:27:12] <myren> what transacts the challenge/response?
  34. [06:27:49] <Osurac> I am going to be an identity provider also
  35. [06:30:27] <myren> ahh so the consumer constructs a url for a redirect for the user's browser
  36. [06:31:13] <myren> finally a god damn doc taht explains something
  37. [06:32:11] <Osurac> which one?
  38. [06:32:36] <myren> lol, the authentication flow diagram
  39. [06:32:46] <myren> its the only thing that just says "the magic mechanism is url redirects"
  40. [06:32:49] <myren> _thank god_
  41. [06:34:05] <Osurac> do you have a link?
  42. [06:35:47] <myren> second link on this page: http://openid.net/about.bml
  43. [06:36:03] <myren> i would have already tossed openid aside if i hadnt found that
  44. [06:36:10] <myren> its the _only_ coherent explanation of the damned thing
  45. [06:38:16] <Osurac> yea the spec seems convoluted
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  57. [15:08:36] <nicolast> cygnus: I got fairly complete microid checking support in djangoid now too
  58. [15:08:56] <nicolast> see http://id.nicolast.be/nicolas/ (needs layout/design work of course)
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  62. [17:37:03] <cygnus> nicolast: cool
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  67. [18:11:52] <jibot> xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
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  75. [19:07:19] <SamRose> maybe you all have discussed this here in the past, but, does anyone know the state of OpenID in the realm of e-commerce. A google search turns up a few ideas and discussions, but not much else
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  77. [19:16:08] <sanedragon> SamRose, the main trouble is that there's not a trust architecture for openid, so one doesn't necessarily know if a user's IDP is secure. IDP whitelists could work for this.
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  81. [19:17:36] <SamRose> sanedragon: Thanks for the info. I may set up a wiki space to brainstorm this, unless I can find this conversation already going on somewhere else...
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  85. [19:20:30] <sanedragon> cool, let us know the URL if you do set up a wiki
  86. [19:20:56] <sanedragon> or if you find a conversation in progress, for that matter.
  87. [19:22:36] <SamRose> sanedragon:sure thing
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