IRC Log for #openid on 2007-01-22

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  5. [01:30:31] <gregh> whew, lots of discussion about phishing on the list
  6. [01:31:34] <wizard545> yea
  7. [01:32:17] <wizard545> time to get a dedicated box for openid devel... hate paying for one
  8. [01:32:18] <robertj_> mmm
  9. [01:34:27] <robertj_> I'm not too up to speed on things but Canter & Cameron both seem to be up the right tree at least
  10. [01:35:20] <robertj_> wizard545: virtual hosting not cutting it?
  11. [01:36:05] <wizard545> robertj_ not when you have 5 guys working on a project
  12. [01:36:19] <wizard545> svn update every 8minutes HEH
  13. [01:36:50] <robertj_> wizard545: why is that a troublesome load?
  14. [01:37:32] <wizard545> seems to be, of course mediatemple is kinda been lacking lately
  15. [01:37:41] <robertj_> oh, MT!
  16. [01:37:54] <robertj_> I've got a client with like 40 accounts there ;(
  17. [01:38:14] <wizard545> yea, i tried their new grid server stuff
  18. [01:38:18] <wizard545> growing pains i think
  19. [01:38:20] <robertj_> wizard545: if 5 9's isn't a big deal then you might look at linode
  20. [01:38:53] <wizard545> i have a friend that works at theplanet.com.. but i'm not sure about them
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  22. [01:39:24] <robertj_> wizard545: you need to partner with a state university ;)
  23. [01:39:42] <wizard545> robertj_ not open source.. closed source project.. so hard to do
  24. [01:39:48] <robertj_> ahh
  25. [01:39:53] <robertj_> so unopenid stuff
  26. [01:40:00] <wizard545> i went to ohio state.. oh well
  27. [01:40:11] <wizard545> haha uses the spec, so it's still legit
  28. [01:41:09] * robertj_ is rooting for openid+infocard
  29. [01:41:21] <wizard545> :)
  30. [01:41:29] <wizard545> good stuff
  31. [01:41:52] <robertj_> honestly, I'm a bit concerned that infocard is on the plate for firefox 3.0
  32. [01:42:28] <robertj_> I was really hoping an abstraction layer for secret handling would emerge before it started hitting desktops everywhere
  33. [01:43:26] <robertj_> AFAIK cardspace can't even keep keys on removable media :(
  34. [01:43:37] <wizard545> i wouldn't worry
  35. [01:44:02] <wizard545> i don't see everyone adopting infocard, i can see them adopting openid
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  38. [01:47:51] <robertj_> without a helper app, I don't see my wife or mother being too comfortable with openID
  39. [01:48:28] <wizard545> :)
  40. [01:48:38] <wizard545> no comment
  41. [01:48:43] <robertj_> and if its a helper app, it might as well do the job right and prevent key sniffing and such
  42. [01:49:03] <wizard545> yea
  43. [01:49:26] <robertj_> so while Cardspace is lacking in features, it is going to be out there in major force in 6 months
  44. [01:49:55] <wizard545> you think so?
  45. [01:50:09] <wizard545> i think it will be passport all over again
  46. [01:50:26] <robertj_> 100% sure it will be out there, 75% sure it will be in major usage in 2 years
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  48. [01:50:53] <robertj_> I think real quick your gonna see it as an option from major financial institutions
  49. [01:50:59] <wizard545> i'm sure it will be out there, i just don't see it being in major usage
  50. [01:51:09] <robertj_> and if Apple picks it up and firefox supports it, it could quickly be required
  51. [01:51:29] <robertj_> there is a major financial incentive to cut out fishing for them
  52. [01:51:30] <wizard545> what predictions do you have for OpenID?
  53. [01:53:04] <robertj_> wizard545: significant but not probable chance of being a top 3 player with almost 100% market coverage and being accessed exclusively through infocard
  54. [01:53:46] <wizard545> openid + infocard would be great, allow the social aspect
  55. [01:54:49] <robertj_> wizard545: I think it would be best for all involved, but I don't know where you would derive a revenue model from that outside of implementation consulting
  56. [01:55:21] <robertj_> (obvious support contracts too)
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  58. [01:58:48] <robertj_> but except for keychain passwords on removable media & laptops, I'm ready for passwords to go away
  59. [01:59:47] <robertj_> my users, mom & wife are too
  60. [02:06:06] <robertj_> but who knows, if everyone's favorite 150B market-cap search company starts taking OpenID all bets are off
  61. [02:09:08] <robertj_> so err, that's what I think
  62. [02:09:39] <robertj_> I hope OpenID does well but given Microsoft's market share, giving anyone a better than even chance of succeeding other than them is kinda unrealistic
  63. [02:11:15] <wizard545> they pushed passport with the same market share
  64. [02:11:36] <robertj_> wizard545: yeah, they might fail
  65. [02:11:44] <robertj_> but that doesn't mean someone else wins
  66. [02:12:08] <robertj_> or if someone else does, it might be someone other than OpenID
  67. [02:12:25] <wizard545> true
  68. [02:12:33] <robertj_> Even a 10% chance is worth going after with rewards being what htey are
  69. [02:12:56] <robertj_> If you have the coveted angel investor or VC lined up, then pedal to the medal.
  70. [02:13:03] <robertj_> or metal even
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  72. [02:13:55] <wizard545> yep
  73. [02:14:06] <wizard545> well worth the chance
  74. [02:15:29] <robertj_> do any free providers accept Infocards yet?
  75. [02:15:56] <wizard545> i haven't seen any
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  84. [10:05:27] <wizard545> i
  85. [10:05:44] <wizard545> i'm impressed with the easy wordpress plugin
  86. [10:06:06] <wizard545> www.devtroop.com took me 5min to add openid.. getting much easier.
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