IRC Log for #openid on 2007-01-22
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- [01:30:31] <gregh>
whew, lots of discussion about phishing on the list
- [01:31:34] <wizard545>
yea
- [01:32:17] <wizard545>
time to get a dedicated box for openid devel... hate paying for one
- [01:32:18] <robertj_>
mmm
- [01:34:27] <robertj_>
I'm not too up to speed on things but Canter & Cameron both seem to be up the right tree at least
- [01:35:20] <robertj_>
wizard545: virtual hosting not cutting it?
- [01:36:05] <wizard545>
robertj_ not when you have 5 guys working on a project
- [01:36:19] <wizard545>
svn update every 8minutes HEH
- [01:36:50] <robertj_>
wizard545: why is that a troublesome load?
- [01:37:32] <wizard545>
seems to be, of course mediatemple is kinda been lacking lately
- [01:37:41] <robertj_>
oh, MT!
- [01:37:54] <robertj_>
I've got a client with like 40 accounts there ;(
- [01:38:14] <wizard545>
yea, i tried their new grid server stuff
- [01:38:18] <wizard545>
growing pains i think
- [01:38:20] <robertj_>
wizard545: if 5 9's isn't a big deal then you might look at linode
- [01:38:53] <wizard545>
i have a friend that works at theplanet.com.. but i'm not sure about them
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- [01:39:24] <robertj_>
wizard545: you need to partner with a state university ;)
- [01:39:42] <wizard545>
robertj_ not open source.. closed source project.. so hard to do
- [01:39:48] <robertj_>
ahh
- [01:39:53] <robertj_>
so unopenid stuff
- [01:40:00] <wizard545>
i went to ohio state.. oh well
- [01:40:11] <wizard545>
haha uses the spec, so it's still legit
- [01:41:09] * robertj_ is rooting for openid+infocard
- [01:41:21] <wizard545>
:)
- [01:41:29] <wizard545>
good stuff
- [01:41:52] <robertj_>
honestly, I'm a bit concerned that infocard is on the plate for firefox 3.0
- [01:42:28] <robertj_>
I was really hoping an abstraction layer for secret handling would emerge before it started hitting desktops everywhere
- [01:43:26] <robertj_>
AFAIK cardspace can't even keep keys on removable media :(
- [01:43:37] <wizard545>
i wouldn't worry
- [01:44:02] <wizard545>
i don't see everyone adopting infocard, i can see them adopting openid
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- [01:47:51] <robertj_>
without a helper app, I don't see my wife or mother being too comfortable with openID
- [01:48:28] <wizard545>
:)
- [01:48:38] <wizard545>
no comment
- [01:48:43] <robertj_>
and if its a helper app, it might as well do the job right and prevent key sniffing and such
- [01:49:03] <wizard545>
yea
- [01:49:26] <robertj_>
so while Cardspace is lacking in features, it is going to be out there in major force in 6 months
- [01:49:55] <wizard545>
you think so?
- [01:50:09] <wizard545>
i think it will be passport all over again
- [01:50:26] <robertj_>
100% sure it will be out there, 75% sure it will be in major usage in 2 years
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- [01:50:53] <robertj_>
I think real quick your gonna see it as an option from major financial institutions
- [01:50:59] <wizard545>
i'm sure it will be out there, i just don't see it being in major usage
- [01:51:09] <robertj_>
and if Apple picks it up and firefox supports it, it could quickly be required
- [01:51:29] <robertj_>
there is a major financial incentive to cut out fishing for them
- [01:51:30] <wizard545>
what predictions do you have for OpenID?
- [01:53:04] <robertj_>
wizard545: significant but not probable chance of being a top 3 player with almost 100% market coverage and being accessed exclusively through infocard
- [01:53:46] <wizard545>
openid + infocard would be great, allow the social aspect
- [01:54:49] <robertj_>
wizard545: I think it would be best for all involved, but I don't know where you would derive a revenue model from that outside of implementation consulting
- [01:55:21] <robertj_>
(obvious support contracts too)
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- [01:58:48] <robertj_>
but except for keychain passwords on removable media & laptops, I'm ready for passwords to go away
- [01:59:47] <robertj_>
my users, mom & wife are too
- [02:06:06] <robertj_>
but who knows, if everyone's favorite 150B market-cap search company starts taking OpenID all bets are off
- [02:09:08] <robertj_>
so err, that's what I think
- [02:09:39] <robertj_>
I hope OpenID does well but given Microsoft's market share, giving anyone a better than even chance of succeeding other than them is kinda unrealistic
- [02:11:15] <wizard545>
they pushed passport with the same market share
- [02:11:36] <robertj_>
wizard545: yeah, they might fail
- [02:11:44] <robertj_>
but that doesn't mean someone else wins
- [02:12:08] <robertj_>
or if someone else does, it might be someone other than OpenID
- [02:12:25] <wizard545>
true
- [02:12:33] <robertj_>
Even a 10% chance is worth going after with rewards being what htey are
- [02:12:56] <robertj_>
If you have the coveted angel investor or VC lined up, then pedal to the medal.
- [02:13:03] <robertj_>
or metal even
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- [02:13:55] <wizard545>
yep
- [02:14:06] <wizard545>
well worth the chance
- [02:15:29] <robertj_>
do any free providers accept Infocards yet?
- [02:15:56] <wizard545>
i haven't seen any
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i
- [10:05:44] <wizard545>
i'm impressed with the easy wordpress plugin
- [10:06:06] <wizard545>
www.devtroop.com took me 5min to add openid.. getting much easier.
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