IRC Log for #openid on 2007-02-19

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  1. [00:01:26] <don-o> hi jason.
  2. [00:01:37] <don-o> ive used openid.aol.com to login to jyte once.
  3. [00:01:40] <don-o> it worked fine.
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  7. [00:57:16] <viator> can someone explain openid in lamans termms
  8. [00:58:11] <viator> it seems i need to own a website/url
  9. [00:59:18] <viator> or use somone else webiste/url ie... www.thisguysserver.com/myopenid
  10. [01:00:22] <viator> and the way aol seems to be impliment it doesnt seem open?
  11. [01:00:57] <viator> i mean it cant be used for anything or anywhere other than aol
  12. [01:01:09] <viator> doesnt that defeat the purpose
  13. [01:02:04] <viator> hmmm
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  15. [01:03:47] <myren> aol openid is so you can authenticate on _anyone_'s site with your aol login
  16. [01:04:20] <myren> openid.aol.org/viator is a valid openid anywhere
  17. [01:06:03] <viator> yeah but who wants aol in their name lol
  18. [01:06:06] <dcorbin> viator: the URL acts as your 'userId' for any site that supports openId
  19. [01:06:19] <dcorbin> There are other openid providers.
  20. [01:06:32] <viator> how would i go about setting up my own server todo so
  21. [01:06:35] <viator> are there packages
  22. [01:06:48] <viator> for debian or ubuntu etc
  23. [01:08:10] <dcorbin> You can probably find some thing here: http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Libraries
  24. [01:08:49] <viator> i found a few packages hmmm
  25. [01:11:29] <dcorbin> I hope to run my own server too, eventually (call me paranoid).
  26. [01:12:33] <viator> heh
  27. [01:12:52] <viator> welll it is a great idea i hope it gets more widely accepted
  28. [01:13:24] <viator> i have dozens of different logins with differnt passwords etc
  29. [01:13:34] <viator> and it gets difficult to manage
  30. [01:13:41] <dcorbin> There seems to be a lot of providers jumping on recently. I'm looking for more "clients".
  31. [01:13:49] <dcorbin> (Can't remember the proper term...)
  32. [01:13:58] <dcorbin> dozens? I have over a hundred..
  33. [01:14:05] <viator> had to install the gnome password manager
  34. [01:15:03] <dcorbin> Another interesting ID is the use of a password hasher extension for the browser.
  35. [01:15:14] <dcorbin> er, idea.
  36. [01:15:23] <dcorbin> I've not tried on yet though.
  37. [01:15:36] <viator> hmmm interesting
  38. [01:15:50] <dcorbin> er, one.
  39. [01:16:15] <dcorbin> You want me to dig about URI?
  40. [01:16:51] <dcorbin> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3282/
  41. [01:16:55] <dcorbin> Here's one.
  42. [01:40:22] <jondevtroop> hi guys
  43. [01:49:00] <dcorbin> hullo.
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  55. [04:53:45] <jibot> chowells79 is yet another Janrain idler.
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  77. [11:57:28] <agruen> is there anyone from myopenid.com around?
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  86. [14:00:39] <tarmot> Any JanRain people awake?
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  88. [14:38:33] <jibot> xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
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  91. [14:50:05] <tarmot> xlarrydrebes: well, I just e-mailed you guys about myopenid.com, asking some questions
  92. [14:51:19] <tarmot> xlarrydrebes: basically wondering how committed you guys are to keeping myopenid.com up in the long run
  93. [15:02:44] <xlarrydrebes> good morning
  94. [15:02:55] <xlarrydrebes> extremely committed, it's our business
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  98. [15:29:29] <obidos> hi
  99. [15:29:43] <obidos> is openid easily usable in a web services architecture?
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  106. [16:37:11] <elektronisch> hi, i want to make my website openid enabled but cant find any good documentation. my site runs apache and php 5x if that means anything
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  111. [17:23:19] <pisi> Hi. Is it possible to direct a openid provider to figure out the openid url of the user and pass it back to the website ? So that if there was a link 'log in using Mycompany OpenID server' users would not have to type their 'mycompany' openid url ?
  112. [17:24:11] <Larholm> what openid library does aol use? :)
  113. [17:24:38] <terrell> pisi - no, it has to originate from the person using the site
  114. [17:24:59] <terrell> but a bookmarklet could easily be generated perhaps that would prepopulate an openid field
  115. [17:26:01] <pisi> but if the user does not know the url yet..
  116. [17:26:22] <pisi> or should not use for some strange reason. If the URL can be derived from some other source.
  117. [17:26:51] <terrell> the user arrives at a site
  118. [17:26:56] <terrell> the user has to enter the info
  119. [17:26:59] <terrell> simple as that
  120. [17:27:26] <terrell> potentially the browser could already 'know' and fill it in
  121. [17:27:44] <terrell> but that's not something the site can do - it's still on the user side of things
  122. [17:28:15] <pisi> well. I'm using eID cards that have certificates with information that can be turned into urls and is in fact the way it works currently. But I would like to have the site using this service to have a very easy setup: enter your openid and login (no matter what openid url) OR a link 'log on using your eID' and the eID logon would be a automatically generated URL
  123. [17:28:57] <pisi> so that it would be implementation detail that the login process used openid actually. Upgrading to other URL-s it would be an option for a smarter users.
  124. [17:29:15] <Larholm> pisi, iirc openid doesn't specify how to setup a Passport-like service where a request from the clients browser can prefill the users existing logged-in profile
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  145. [18:37:52] <Larholm> is spiegelmock still at LJ?
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  149. [19:03:28] <trillback> is it possible to delete an account from myopenid?
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  156. [19:16:26] <trillback> is it possible to delete an account?
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  158. [19:23:53] <Cody`macbook> Is there any recommended storage engine for openID? SQL vs. File: pros/cons
  159. [19:23:58] <Cody`macbook> I'm trying to decide what to use
  160. [19:26:04] <jondevtroop> Cody`macbook: we use mysql
  161. [19:27:48] <Cody`macbook> I'd like to use SQL, personally, but I can't get my MySQL class working with a storage engine.
  162. [19:27:53] <Cody`macbook> None of the insertions happen or anything
  163. [19:28:04] <Cody`macbook> and I've provided calls for the pear::db class and such
  164. [19:28:05] <Cody`macbook> (this is php)
  165. [19:28:48] <Cody`macbook> the insertion into the database is never happening for openid_associations :/
  166. [19:29:10] <Cody`macbook> (I've been working on this for far too long, so I figured I come here and see what was recommended)
  167. [19:32:47] <Cody`macbook> So you guys would recommend mysql then?
  168. [19:34:40] <jondevtroop> i would personally
  169. [19:34:48] <jondevtroop> i wish i could be more help
  170. [19:35:48] <Cody`macbook> Main problem I have with the API is there aren't many php developers around that know it lol
  171. [19:36:04] <Cody`macbook> everyone that's using it is using mostly rails/python it seems
  172. [19:36:24] <Cody`macbook> oh well, I found the wordpress db engine's storage engine, may be able to base mine off that
  173. [19:36:38] <Cody`macbook> if not, there's a php patch with some ssl functions that I can use to make my own client
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  181. [20:38:43] <jibot> Skwid_ is cool
  182. [20:40:13] <terrell> jyte on techcrunch
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  190. [21:21:29] <jibot> Skwid_ is cool
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  192. [21:54:36] <VxJasonxV> Jyte is a Janrain creation, yes?
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  194. [21:56:35] <VxJasonxV> huh, aol'd openid implementation uses botbouncer? or did I misunderstand the flow?
  195. [21:57:50] <VxJasonxV> aol's*
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  197. [22:12:43] <VxJasonxV> never mind, I'm just silly
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  201. [22:47:37] <GabeW> jyte is a janrain creation
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  206. [23:14:10] <joeyh> can someone tell me how http://openid.net/login-bg.gif is licensed? Can it be included in third-party software?
  207. [23:17:15] <terrell> i'm pretty sure it's either CC or LGPL
  208. [23:17:23] <terrell> don't have a reference though
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  211. [23:30:21] <joeyh> I found a thread: http://openid.net/pipermail/general/2007-January/001421.html
  212. [23:30:44] <joeyh> so there will be some legal entity, but I'm not sure who owns the logo now or how all these sites are using it :-)
  213. [23:32:54] <joeyh> aha: Randy Reddig owns it: http://lists.danga.com/pipermail/yadis/2005-June/000990.html

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