IRC Log for #openid on 2007-04-23

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  49. [15:12:45] <jibot> chowells79 is yet another Janrain idler.
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  68. [17:07:33] <Almad> Is there any known compatibility issues with latest python openid library?
  69. [17:07:35] <Almad> (version 2)
  70. [17:08:40] <Almad> server works fine with my sites using same library, but I'm failing to log in from *some* other sites
  71. [17:09:03] <keturn> not so far.
  72. [17:09:36] <keturn> hmm, what step do they fail at? i.e. do you get redirected to your server, or does it fail in discovery?
  73. [17:09:45] <Almad> verification
  74. [17:10:01] <Almad> or Server denied check_authentication.
  75. [17:10:05] <Almad> depending on site
  76. [17:11:45] <keturn> huh. can you tell if they are establishing an association first?
  77. [17:12:35] <Almad> mmt, I'll check log
  78. [17:14:00] <Almad> hmm
  79. [17:14:00] <Almad> only one request from wikitravel
  80. [17:14:10] <Almad> GET /server/?openid.assoc_handle=%7BHMAC-SHA1%7D%7B462bc234%7D%7Bz13DXQ%3D%3D%7D&openid.identity=http%3A%2F%2Falmad.rpghrac.cz%2F&openid.mode=checkid_setup&openid.return_to=http%3A%2F%2Fwikitravel.org%2Fen%2FSpecial%3AOpenIDFinish%3Fnonce%3DUZngZuXT&openid.sreg.optional=nickname%2Cemail%2Cfullname%2Clanguage%2Ctimezone&openid.trust_root=http%3A%2F%2Fwikitravel.org%2Fen%2F
  81. [17:14:54] <keturn> but it included an assoc_handle in the checkid request, so it must have done an association at some point
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  84. [17:17:47] <Almad> true, I just cannot see it...
  85. [17:18:09] <Almad> not seeing any associate request, unlike from diagnose server at openidenabled
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  87. [17:21:37] <keturn> well, diagnose server is a bit crazy in that it will make one _every time_ you start a session with it, just to test things
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  89. [17:22:06] <keturn> if wikitravel is sane, they probably cache the association for as long as its valid
  90. [17:22:24] <keturn> so maybe they made a request the first time you tried it out there, but not since then
  91. [17:23:07] <Almad> hm
  92. [17:24:11] <Almad> I'm just trying to resolve where the problem is at all and slowly going crazy, as I'm not skilled in this whole openid specification thing
  93. [17:25:11] <keturn> if you let me know which servers you've had problems with, I'll take a look at it a little later today
  94. [17:26:03] <Almad> I'm implementing my own on top of python library and examples in it
  95. [17:26:35] <keturn> I'm glad you're testing this out, because I hope to take the "release candidate" off the version string real soon, so it's good for me to find problems before then
  96. [17:27:11] <keturn> oh, right, I guess I meant which RPs your server is having a problem with
  97. [17:27:39] <Almad> trying to determine, but at least wordpress openid plugin
  98. [17:27:59] <Almad> wikitravel
  99. [17:32:29] <Almad> hm
  100. [17:33:27] <Almad> keturn: communication with netscape.com: http://dpaste.com/8929/
  101. [17:33:38] <Almad> (result it 'server denied authorization')
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  103. [17:38:29] <keturn> hmm, that signed list in checkauth has openid 2.0 style namespacing on the sreg fields... but the original request didn't.
  104. [17:40:06] <keturn> I gotta go, but I'll look at it more a little later today.
  105. [17:40:44] <Almad> cool, ty
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  126. [20:31:59] <PupenoR> Hello.
  127. [20:32:28] <PupenoR> What software do you recommend to host my OpenID identity on my own server? (I like keeping everything on my own server).
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  130. [20:41:51] <PupenoR> No one here?
  131. [20:42:35] <Almad> it is, but I'm not experienced openid man
  132. [20:42:39] <Almad> but I guess you can use anyone
  133. [20:42:49] <Almad> depending on platform you want to run
  134. [20:43:20] * Almad programming his own on top of janrain's libraries
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  136. [20:58:19] <chowells79> Really, regardless of "liking" it, you're better off delegating than running your own server, unless you plan to add features that no existing server supports.
  137. [20:59:24] * Almad plans it
  138. [20:59:54] <tbbrown> perhaps he doesn't want another server tracking every openid site he visits?
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  140. [21:03:46] <gregh> I wrote my own openid server because I wanted to understand how the protocol really works
  141. [21:05:02] <gregh> there's lots of reasons why you might want to run your own
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  143. [21:24:42] <chowells79> I didn't say there weren't reasons. I said that unless you need a feature that no existing provider offers (and if you're paranoid enough, lack of tracking is such a feature), those reasons don't outweigh the advantages of settling on an actively maintained provider.
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  145. [21:26:11] <chowells79> (Note that wrt tracking, many see having a full audit trail as a positive feature, not a negative. But it's clearly something that depends on the use.)
  146. [21:32:31] <tbbrown> maybe windows laptops will ship with openid servers one day so that a user can make her blog delegate to laptop. whenever the laptop moves, it will update the delegation link on the blog?
  147. [21:35:43] <_keturn> it'd require the laptop to always have a public IP, which is pretty rare
  148. [21:36:16] <tbbrown> ipv6? :)
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  164. [23:49:26] <jibot> xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
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  167. [23:59:09] <Almad> keturn or _keturn: In case you will find some time and examine those unfunctional servers for me (or came up with some possible reason), I'll be glad + e-mail me then please at bugs (at) almad.net
  168. [23:59:28] <Almad> Thank You.../me sleepy, 2AM there ,)
  169. [23:59:45] * Almad is now known as Almad|AFK
  170. [23:59:52] * Almad|AFK is now known as Almad

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