IRC Log for #openid on 2007-05-11

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  78. [15:24:33] <jibot> chowells79 is yet another Janrain idler.
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  87. [16:20:54] <jibot> cygnus is WorkerBee(name="Jonathan Daugherty", company="JanRain, Inc.")
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  93. [17:20:24] <jibot> AaronF is a troll and an industrious troll.
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  102. [18:20:25] <AaronF_> ?forgetme
  103. [18:20:31] <AaronF_> ?Aaron is nobody.
  104. [18:20:38] <AaronF_> ?learn AaronF is nobody.
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  107. [18:21:21] <AaronF> ?AaronF
  108. [18:32:11] <GabeW> jibot is apparently dead
  109. [18:36:18] <pisi> connection refused.
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  134. [21:36:51] <GabeW> ?def mmealling
  135. [21:36:51] <jibot> mmealling is Michael Mealling. He lives in Atlanta, GA & is the VP of Business Development for Masten Space Systems (masten-space.com) which is a Santa Clara based VTVL suborbital rocket company. In his spare time he also runs an RFID & supply chain consulting company for small businesses. He blogs at rocketforge.org, neonym.net & flickr.com/photos/mmealling. & a ROCKETMAAAAAN & has a military-industrial complex
  136. [21:39:20] <cygnus> hmm, Gaim's not so good about remembering who I want to ignore on IRC.
  137. [21:39:35] * cygnus /ignores GabeW again
  138. [21:39:38] <cygnus> oh, wait
  139. [21:39:41] <cygnus> I mean jibot. :-D
  140. [21:39:48] <cygnus> (or is jibot GabeW?)
  141. [21:41:34] <keturn> perhaps at least one of them will be at IIW
  142. [21:44:43] <GabeW> i will
  143. [21:44:51] <GabeW> hehe
  144. [21:48:05] <keturn> anyone happen to know of an OP running openid4java online anywhere?
  145. [21:48:17] <keturn> on ssl?
  146. [21:48:42] <GabeW> ooh
  147. [21:48:44] <GabeW> hmm
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  150. [21:55:49] <keturn> where's that jkf fellow
  151. [21:59:17] <chowells79> I thought you said jfk for a second... I was going to point out that he died quite some time ago.
  152. [22:00:38] <keturn> doesn't mean he can't IRC, does it?
  153. [22:01:06] <chowells79> Well. Maybe?
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  155. [22:49:02] <benbangert> I don't suppose anyone know about the progress of OpenID 2.0 implementations for Java, Perl, and Ruby?
  156. [22:50:00] <keturn> there are two or three active Java implementations right now
  157. [22:51:54] <keturn> we've got updating our Ruby implementation on the schedule at JanRain, but we need to wrap up some other projects before we'll have the resources to finish that
  158. [22:53:08] <keturn> I haven't heard good things about perl lately. There's an openid4perl project on google code provided by Sxip, but it seems somewhat stalled at the moment.
  159. [22:54:08] <benbangert> ahh, cool, thanks
  160. [22:54:40] <benbangert> and I assume I can use the Python OpenID 2.0 Janrain implementation to do attribute exchange? (as it piggybacks on openid extensions)
  161. [22:54:54] <benbangert> just making sure I'm reading the specs right ;)
  162. [22:56:13] <keturn> yeah. j3h has actually been working on some code for that. You won't find it in the release, but you can pull it from our darcs repository.
  163. [22:56:33] <benbangert> ah, so there's new code to make that easier?
  164. [22:57:05] <benbangert> it seemed like it was pretty easy to use the additional extensions through the API
  165. [22:59:45] <keturn> see http://xrl.us/wbvn
  166. [23:01:16] <benbangert> ahhh, sweet, thanks
  167. [23:01:57] <benbangert> Is it generally thought that a user should be able to see or modify attributes stored for them by RP's at their IdP?
  168. [23:08:11] <keturn> I'd expect to at least be able to see what's stored there, yeah.
  169. [23:08:51] <keturn> modifying may depend on the application. That is, most users don't want to deal with a bunch of pairs of URIs and text fields,
  170. [23:09:26] <keturn> but your provider might not have a UI available that understands what all those attributes are and how to best present them
  171. [23:10:16] <benbangert> I'm looking at writing such a provider... trying to see how to generate a UI given the attributes that makes sense
  172. [23:27:59] <benbangert> keturn: if someone has multiple OP's set in their YADIS file, how does a RP know which one has the attributes it wants? Does it need to query all the OP's for them?
  173. [23:30:39] <cygnus> that question makes cygnus's head hurt
  174. [23:31:10] <benbangert> Is it because I'm missing something in the specs, or does the answer not exist at the moment?
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  176. [23:32:35] <cygnus> benbangert: more the latter, at least for me
  177. [23:33:06] <cygnus> benbangert: that, and, well, I would say, "Don't select OPs based on attributes. Select OPs based on services provided."
  178. [23:34:30] <benbangert> hmmm, seems like it'll cause a user experience problem though
  179. [23:34:43] <cygnus> well, yeah
  180. [23:34:52] <cygnus> if you have your attributes stored in different places and to varying degrees, that's a problem
  181. [23:34:53] <benbangert> if a user changes the priority of their authentication in their YADIS doc to favor a new OP they just got, how would they know to duplicate their attributes...
  182. [23:49:31] <keturn> which, I suppose, makes "export all attributes to other OP" a nice bit of functionality to have on your OP
  183. [23:49:49] <keturn> (and one you would hesitate to implement if you were evil and trying to lock in users.)

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