IRC Log for #openid on 2007-07-26

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  45. [15:33:29] <jibot> chowells79 is yet another Janrain idler.
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  48. [15:44:32] <peace-keeper> is it possible to use openid to log in to standalone desktop applications ?
  49. [15:44:52] <johill> in theory, if they have some web stuff built-in
  50. [15:45:03] <peace-keeper> anyone done that?
  51. [15:45:18] <johill> although I think you want to log in to the backend server normally, no?
  52. [15:45:49] <johill> then it would have to do the authentication I suppose
  53. [15:46:05] <johill> well I've run a wiki engine locally and logged in to it with my global openid
  54. [15:46:06] <peace-keeper> i want to log in to a desktop java application..
  55. [15:46:16] <johill> define 'log in to a desktop app'
  56. [15:46:52] <peace-keeper> a video game for example, or whatever.. something that is running locally on my machine..
  57. [15:47:11] <johill> what's the point of logging in then if it's totally local?
  58. [15:47:23] <peace-keeper> :D
  59. [15:47:54] <peace-keeper> it can be connected to some network..
  60. [15:48:08] <peace-keeper> and i want to log in to that
  61. [15:48:15] <peace-keeper> but still i want to use the desktop app to do that
  62. [15:48:15] <johill> but then you want the backend to verify the ID
  63. [15:48:19] <peace-keeper> yeah, true
  64. [15:48:24] <johill> otherewise the desktop app can just lie and tell the server it has logged in
  65. [15:49:07] <peace-keeper> damn you! you're confusing me! :)
  66. [15:50:05] <peace-keeper> doesn't what i am saying make sense?
  67. [15:50:33] <johill> sure, you just want to verify the ID on the backend server
  68. [15:50:41] <johill> adn that's quite a bit harder to do
  69. [15:51:03] <johill> actually, not really
  70. [15:51:29] <peace-keeper> so how you do it..
  71. [15:51:40] <peace-keeper> i enter my openid in my local java app.. then what next ?
  72. [15:51:41] <johill> think about what happens
  73. [15:51:51] <johill> it gets sent to the server you want to log in to
  74. [15:51:57] <peace-keeper> yeah
  75. [15:52:04] <johill> just think of your local java app as a browser
  76. [15:52:08] <johill> and that's all then
  77. [15:52:29] <peace-keeper> so it must have some browser window where it displays the idp's authentication screen?
  78. [15:53:36] <johill> yeah
  79. [15:53:59] <johill> unless you want to have some way of getting state in/out of the app
  80. [15:54:13] <johill> you could log in with a webbrowser and then copy some cookie into your java app
  81. [15:54:18] <johill> but you'd have to do that manually...
  82. [15:54:27] <peace-keeper> hm that doesn't sound good
  83. [15:55:07] <johill> maybe there's another way I just don't see right now
  84. [15:55:19] <johill> but openid is mostly using web to log in to the idp...
  85. [15:55:26] <johill> nothing mandates that, of course
  86. [15:55:33] <johill> there's one jabber idp even
  87. [15:55:39] <peace-keeper> after the user authenticates at his idp's page, he gets redirected to my server, which then tells my client app that the user has successfully logged in, right?
  88. [15:55:52] <peace-keeper> guess that doesn't sound impossible
  89. [15:56:27] <johill> yeah
  90. [15:59:03] <peace-keeper> someone should write a guide for this, there are probably many people having this idea
  91. [15:59:26] <peace-keeper> unfortunately i'm pretty much an openid idiot
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