IRC Log for #openid on 2007-08-28
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- [00:18:33] <peace-keeper>
sincere condolences
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Hello
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- [20:00:36] <DaSkreech>
Hello
- [20:00:50] <DaSkreech>
Can someone help me with something?
- [20:00:56] <DaSkreech>
Well a concept really
- [20:05:28] <_keturn>
maybe?
- [20:05:44] <DaSkreech>
Ha ha
- [20:06:08] <DaSkreech>
What stops someone from doing a openid phishing?
- [20:06:37] <_keturn>
describe what you mean by that.
- [20:08:07] <DaSkreech>
Can't I be a "openid" site and when you send a openid I grab a screen of the site and put up a login what simply takes your username and password and then log you into my site regardless of what you type in?
- [20:08:24] <DaSkreech>
I could harvest passwords that way couldn't I?
- [20:10:25] <_keturn>
there are a couple approaches to that, but they all depend on the user having a better relationship with their provider.
- [20:11:21] <_keturn>
for example, they might have the VeriSign seat-belt plug-in, which will alert the user if they're signing in to something that's not actually their IDP
- [20:11:43] <DaSkreech>
How?
- [20:11:56] <DaSkreech>
They are never getting to the provider
- [20:11:58] <_keturn>
there's a "secure sign-in" option on MyOpenID which makes it so you don't enter your password after a redirect, you need to click a bookmark instead
- [20:12:11] <DaSkreech>
Ahh
- [20:12:18] <DaSkreech>
That's not useful on the road :)
- [20:12:41] <_keturn>
some providers (again, including myOpenID) will let you use a browser client certificate instead of a password
- [20:13:06] <trel1023>
or just log into your openid provider at the beginning of your session
- [20:13:20] <trel1023>
any other login prompts you know are phishing attempts
- [20:13:28] <_keturn>
on the road if you sign in to your provider _first_ ... yeah, what trel1023 said.
- [20:14:05] <trel1023>
if/when this is baked into the browser - phishing kind of becomes a non-issue
- [20:14:19] <trel1023>
(baked in in a smart way)
- [20:15:13] <DaSkreech>
ok
- [20:15:20] <DaSkreech>
so how much of an issue is it?
- [20:15:41] <DaSkreech>
and it should seize to be one once most popular browsers get the phishing sorted out?
- [20:19:36] <_keturn>
con men have been around a long time and I doubt that any browser technology is going to make them cease to be an issue at all. but there are things that can help, sure. Kim Cameron is putting a lot of hope in the CardSpace user interface. Firefox might get some OpenID support baked in.
- [20:20:26] <_keturn>
like you said, these things are hard to use when you're not travelling with your own computer, and they'll probably stay that way until we all do it through our cell phones.
- [20:20:44] <trel1023>
implants
- [20:20:46] <trel1023>
!
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- [20:23:27] <DaSkreech>
Well you can probably get it in Brazil
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- [23:27:36] <ubuntu__>
I'm guessing no one haas any comments on the MS alternative to openID?
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- [23:49:00] <_keturn>
are you talking about the Windows Live ID?
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