IRC Log for #openid on 2007-09-09

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  25. [05:00:41] <nicerobot> what's happened to the checkup tool? seems it's been locked up
  26. [05:01:27] <keturn> has it?
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  50. [13:38:00] <Peng> test?
  51. [13:38:14] <openid_pibb> <Matt Nordhoff> Okay.
  52. [13:38:26] <Peng> Pibb had stopped updating. Sorry for the interruption.
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  62. [14:57:10] <skippy> anyone here working on the PHP OpenID stuff? http://openidenabled.com/php-openid/
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  64. [15:00:28] <skippy> the description of the PHP OpenID library claims its Apache licensed (yay!); but the comment header in the source files claim they're LGPL licensed (boo!). Which license applies? Can someone remedy the discrepency ?
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  66. [15:18:43] <keturn> skippy: should be LGPL. I'll clean that up before the next release. Would you mind opening a ticket about it at http://trac.openidenabled.com ?
  67. [15:19:05] <keturn> I mean, crap
  68. [15:19:07] <keturn> not LGPL
  69. [15:19:08] <keturn> the other thing.
  70. [15:19:20] <keturn> Apache software license v2.0
  71. [15:20:08] <skippy> i dont have an OpenID yet, so i cant open a ticket
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  105. [18:51:22] <xeor> Little question I cannot find the answer to in the wiki. I have setup anopenidd server, its behind https/ssl and that makes some problems. When I try to use it the client side gets verification error. I havent bought the cert so its not 100% valid. Is there any way I can solve this without buying an cert?
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  109. [19:25:47] <keturn> xeor: Not that I know of. The primary benefit of putting your OpenID discovery page and endpoint behind SSL is that it makes it a lot harder for an attacker to hijack DNS or otherwise introduce a man in the middle.
  110. [19:26:14] <keturn> But if your certificate can't be validated by a trusted certificate authority, well, there's no way to say that cert isn't a fake from an attacker
  111. [19:27:41] <keturn> now, what the relying party will do with that information is a matter of policy, and honestly, I don't think we've seen best practices around that really be established yet
  112. [19:28:30] <keturn> and there are always a few of them who just can't fetch SSL at all because they don't have the appropriate libraries installed on their host.
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  118. [20:07:02] <xeor> keturn: ahh, thanks for the answer. Need to buy a cert then.. damn.. but thanks :)
  119. [20:11:55] <keturn> there are CA's like cacert.org and cert.startcom.org which offer certificates at no charge, but if those CAs are not in the cert used by the RP, they don't do you much good
  120. [20:12:34] <keturn> I'm not sure how widely accepted those are. I've had some poor experiences with some others.
  121. [20:14:22] <xeor> i know about cacert and all those, but dont think any of those root ca's is trusted by all the openid enabled sites, as you said.
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  123. [20:18:48] <keturn> the StartCom guys periodically speak up on the OpenID list, and say that OpenID really ought to mandate use of SSL, because certs are free, but...
  124. [20:19:26] <xeor> certs are free, but all around valid certs cost..
  125. [20:21:01] <xeor> Do you know what the "$GLOBALS['p'] = '1551728981814736974712322......." in the code is for? I know its for crypto, diffie, but why is it set static?
  126. [20:21:37] <xeor> Its used in the value of ( mod ) later in the code..
  127. [20:23:06] <keturn> the protocol _allows_ you to specify other values for that one, but in practice, that one's good enough. The option to use something else is there in case... I don't know... someone decides that one isn't prime enough?
  128. [20:25:23] <xeor> hmm, ok.. I can let it be then.. thanks :)
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  131. [20:43:57] <marclaport1> Hi everyone!
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  140. [22:10:44] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> Hi Marclaport1!
  141. [22:17:36] <marclaport1> we have made good progress this week-end at the CodeFest
  142. [22:18:01] <marclaport1> TikiWiki now supports OpenID: http://tikiwiki.codefest2007.net/tikiwiki/
  143. [22:18:27] <marclaport1> Xoops as well: http://xoops.codefest2007.net/
  144. [22:18:57] <marclaport1> Crash at mine: http://www.crashatmine.org/opencs/login.php as well
  145. [22:19:32] <marclaport1> WiFiDog is still being worked on
  146. [22:19:45] <marclaport1> phpBB -> I don't if we'll succeed
  147. [22:21:37] <marclaport1> Evan worked on improving openID support for MediaWiki plugin
  148. [22:23:23] <marclaport1> habariproject.org needs more testing but it's past the proof of concept stage
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  157. [23:47:40] <marclaport3> WiFiDog: Identity provider is working
  158. [23:48:34] <idnar> cool
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  160. [23:50:03] <marclaport3> phpBB: the person that was working on it left. no success here.
  161. [23:50:28] <marclaport3> So we have 4 success, 1 partial success and 1 failure
  162. [23:50:42] <marclaport3> not bad for a week-end
  163. [23:50:49] <keturn> not bad for a weekend at all
  164. [23:51:09] <marclaport3> btw, we found some bugs/issues
  165. [23:51:14] <marclaport3> and have 1 patch
  166. [23:51:48] <marclaport3> and 1 bug which I also got on the OpenID wiki
  167. [23:51:52] <marclaport3> (!)
  168. [23:52:24] <marclaport3> We all started from the openid php lib
  169. [23:52:41] <marclaport3> and people have nice to things to say about it
  170. [23:55:49] <keturn> are those bugs/patch for the openid lib, or the other projects?
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