IRC Log for #openid on 2007-09-17

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  19. [03:29:36] <derdcm> anyone here
  20. [03:30:03] <GabeW> hi
  21. [03:30:57] <openid_pibb> <Matt Nordhoff> Just us evil Microsoft infiltrators.
  22. [03:31:31] <derdcm> what would keep me from imposing as you if I knew your openid
  23. [03:44:05] <openid_pibb> <Kevin Fox> you dont know the password to auth. with the idp
  24. [03:44:47] <openid_pibb> <Kevin Fox> what is to keep me from posing as you if I knew your email?
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  34. [06:05:46] <jibot> keturn is Kevin Turner
  35. [06:26:28] <openid_pibb> <Matt Nordhoff> Oh, that's what his nick means.
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  42. [11:37:57] <Peng> Pibb: ping
  43. [11:38:10] <openid_pibb> <Matt Nordhoff> pong!
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  103. [20:32:53] <Peng> Pibb: ping
  104. [20:33:14] <openid_pibb> <Matt Nordhoff> pong!
  105. [20:34:16] <openid_pibb> <keturn> (this concludes today's keepalive echo test. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.)
  106. [20:34:49] <openid_pibb> <Matt Nordhoff> :)
  107. [20:34:59] <openid_pibb> <Matt Nordhoff> Well, I'd rather not reload Pibb unless I know for sure it's dead.
  108. [20:35:31] <openid_pibb> <Matt Nordhoff> Is there a Pibb channel with an IRC relay I can test it in?
  109. [20:35:42] <openid_pibb> <Matt Nordhoff> I still say a "Server last polled" time in the bottom-left corner of the screen would be useful.
  110. [20:36:23] <openid_pibb> <Matt Nordhoff> ** Matt Nordhoff wanders off.
  111. [20:38:07] <openid_pibb> <keturn> Weird that it dies so much for you. Have you bugged the people in the pibb support channel about it?
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  117. [21:34:22] <derdcm> what would keep me from imposing as someone if I knew their openid?
  118. [21:35:36] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> generally speaking, you'd have to know the authentication credentials they use at the IDP (usually a password)
  119. [21:36:02] <derdcm> but when I log into somewhere with openid it never asks me for a password
  120. [21:36:29] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> well, that depends on whether the IDP for that identifier cares about authentication
  121. [21:36:40] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> and it depends on whether the RP cares about it, too :)
  122. [21:37:31] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> if you're talking about a non-hypothetical case (i.e., your real identifier), then you likely have a session cookie with your IDP
  123. [21:37:42] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> and the IDP doesn't ask you to authenticate every time because it sees that cookie
  124. [21:40:38] <derdcm> is clamshell a good openid server
  125. [21:41:51] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> I can't vouch for it directly, but since it appears to be based on phpMyID, I would strongly recommend against using it.
  126. [21:44:14] <derdcm> can you reccomend a server?
  127. [21:47:47] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> I would firstly (and perhaps obviously) recommend myopenid.com. In general, try to choose a server that is maintained by people who spend a lot of time caring for its security and feature set. Verisign's PIP and myopenid.com are two such services. And use delegation in case you ever decide to change.
  128. [21:50:34] <openid_pibb> <Kevin Fox> I would have to second cygnus on MyOpenID.com
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  130. [21:52:17] <openid_pibb> <Kevin Fox> though Vidoop has some pretty pictures they make you choose to login
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  132. [21:57:38] <_keturn> although cygnus, Mr. Fox and I all work for the company that runs myOpenID, so we may not be entirely impartial. But at least you know you can find support. ;)
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  136. [22:09:22] <openid_pibb> <Kevin Fox> for full disclosure here is a complete(ish) list that is non partial
  137. [22:09:23] <openid_pibb> <Kevin Fox> http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/OpenIDServers#Identity_Providers
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  139. [22:12:56] <jibot> marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
  140. [22:16:05] <derdcm> I was looking more for openid server software, not provider
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  142. [22:19:36] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> most of us recommend you don't run your own server, but there are several packages floating around. Some are standalone. I think there are some framework-flavored packages, too.
  143. [22:19:55] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> (And the reason we recommend against running a server is not to drive traffic to our own, to be completely clear.)
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