IRC Log for #openid on 2007-10-15
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marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
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- [13:24:56] <claudio>
is "DH is used to generate and share a key, that then will be used to create the HMAC digest"?
- [13:25:11] <claudio>
is it a right assumption?
- [13:26:17] <claudio>
no :) DH does not generate the key :)
- [13:27:09] <claudio>
so it is: generate the key -> exchange it with DH -> use it for HMAC-SHA1
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- [13:40:56] <Melvster_>
sound about right
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- [13:56:37] <Melvster_>
but dont they have to talk to generate the shared secret?
- [13:57:00] <claudio>
yes,with DH, in "associate mode"
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- [14:00:15] <Melvster_>
i think both sides create random secrets
- [14:00:25] <Melvster_>
and they are exchanged to make a shared secret
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- [15:50:38] <jibot>
marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
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- [17:21:09] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> Any XRDS + OpenID 1.0 experts around?
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marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
- [17:32:51] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> Trying to figure out how to turn this:
- [17:32:52] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> -
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<=eran>
- [17:33:53] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> <Service priority="10">
- [17:33:54] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> <Type select="true">http://openid.net/signon/1.0</Type>
- [17:34:03] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> <ProviderID />
- [17:34:15] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> <URI append="none" priority="2">http://2idi.com/openid/</URI>
- [17:34:26] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> <URI append="none" priority="1">https://2idi.com/openid/</URI>
- [17:34:27] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> </Service>
- [17:34:46] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> into an OpenID 1.1 request
- [17:35:48] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> Any help? I know this works because it's in my =eran XRDS file and I can login using it to sites that support XRI in OpenID
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- [18:14:38] <GabeW>
=eran, you still there?
- [18:17:50] <Melvster>
hmm everyone got an iname except me :(
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- [18:21:47] <jibot>
marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
- [18:27:11] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> hi GabeW
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- [18:27:42] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> Still here
- [18:33:07] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> I'll be here all day if anyone can help out...
- [18:43:17] <GabeW>
ok
- [18:43:21] <GabeW>
i'm just going out
- [18:43:52] <GabeW>
be back in an hour or two
- [18:45:02] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> cool
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- [20:28:28] <openid_pibb>
<keturn> =eran: the content of the URI element is the OpenID server endpoint
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- [20:53:41] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> What do I use for the identity?
- [20:53:52] <openid_pibb>
<=eran> this is an OpenID 1.1 provider
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- [21:01:55] <openid_pibb>
<Atom Dude> hi y'all - anybody have an OpenID 2.0 provider up and running that supports directed identity?
- [21:03:40] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> myopenid.com supports both
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- [21:30:06] <openid_pibb>
<Atom Dude> cygnus - really? when i try to login to Jyte using "myopenid.com" as my OP-identifier, i get an error
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- [21:31:19] <openid_pibb>
<Atom Dude> i thought in OpenID 2.0, I could type in "openid.com" as my OP Identifier, and then my OP will return my actual OpenID (atom.myopenid.com)
- [21:33:14] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> well, Jyte isn't an OpenID 2 RP. :)
- [21:33:56] <openid_pibb>
<Atom Dude> ah
- [21:34:06] <openid_pibb>
<Atom Dude> Got an OpenID 2 RP?
- [21:35:18] <openid_pibb>
<keturn> =eran: the normalized form of the identifier, which is probably =eran or xri://=eran depending on who you ask
- [21:36:53] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> http://openidenabled.com/python-openid/trunk/examples/consumer/
- [21:39:20] <openid_pibb>
<Atom Dude> ah ha
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<Atom Dude> i had to re-login to myopenid.com though
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<Blueberry> Heeey, it's atom dude!
- [21:45:55] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Hi atom dude!
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- [21:52:01] <claudio>
"Relying Parry" in Draft 12
- [21:54:06] <openid_pibb>
<Atom Dude> Hi Blueberry!
- [21:56:01] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> ** Blueberry hugs atom!
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<Blueberry> I have to go in about an hour to go vulenteer at riding for the disabled
- [21:56:31] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> is a day of horsies!
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- [21:56:53] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> I just got a funky new camera though so there will be lots of horse pictures on my flickr later today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jennathepony/
- [21:56:54] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> if you like horses :)
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- [22:03:30] <openid_pibb>
<Atom Dude> i like horse pics!
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- [22:06:48] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> cool! keep watching my flickr then! more will come today and tomorrow!
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- [22:24:52] <darkskiez>
in the php openid lib, is there a proper way with the api to maintain your logged in session once you get the callback, or are you just meant to store the callback details against the $_SESSION yourself?
- [22:34:55] <openid_pibb>
<Atom Dude> shouldn't you just stuff the session info into the openid.return_to url?
- [22:37:10] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> darkskiez, the "callback details" can be added to the return URL that you construct with $auth_req->redirectURL().
- [22:37:31] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> as for session and login state, one usually does that with $_SESSION which uses a cookie if possible.
- [22:38:19] <darkskiez>
yes, thats what i thought, i just wondered if there were api's to test the validatation your session
- [22:38:45] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> what's to validate?
- [22:39:00] <darkskiez>
that the user hasnt logged out of their provider for example
- [22:39:26] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> but the user is free to log out of the provider at any time...
- [22:39:49] <darkskiez>
yes, but they stay logged into any sites with sessions they are logged into, yes ?
- [22:40:09] <openid_pibb>
<Atom Dude> there is no single sign out :(
- [22:40:10] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> Yeah.
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- [22:41:07] <darkskiez>
i noticed in the store/associations, there was a token with a timetime, i wasnt sure how this was used.
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timetime=lifetime
- [22:41:26] <darkskiez>
:)
- [22:41:41] <darkskiez>
is that just for the setup phase
- [22:41:54] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> Associations have an expiration which prevents the RP from associating with the server *every* time a request is initiated.
- [22:42:43] <darkskiez>
yes, so there is some sort of test you do on each request?
- [22:43:25] <darkskiez>
basically, once you have the openid from the login and other detail, is that you totally finished with the openid api ?
- [22:44:19] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> that's right, that's all you need to do
- [22:44:41] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> the same is true with username/password-driven authentication; you employ that once to get the user to authenticate, then you store something in the session.
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- [23:07:12] <darkskiez>
every so often i'm getting Warning: Bad server URL: in Auth/OpenID/FileStore.php on line 136
- [23:07:28] <darkskiez>
other times it works
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<cygnus> then there's a server url (either HTML openid.server LINK tag or XRDS URI tag) without "://" in it
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which is the most used Java library?
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I'm just trying to stack them up, from the most robust
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