IRC Log for #openid on 2007-10-15

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  61. [13:24:56] <claudio> is "DH is used to generate and share a key, that then will be used to create the HMAC digest"?
  62. [13:25:11] <claudio> is it a right assumption?
  63. [13:26:17] <claudio> no :) DH does not generate the key :)
  64. [13:27:09] <claudio> so it is: generate the key -> exchange it with DH -> use it for HMAC-SHA1
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  66. [13:40:56] <Melvster_> sound about right
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  68. [13:56:37] <Melvster_> but dont they have to talk to generate the shared secret?
  69. [13:57:00] <claudio> yes,with DH, in "associate mode"
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  71. [14:00:15] <Melvster_> i think both sides create random secrets
  72. [14:00:25] <Melvster_> and they are exchanged to make a shared secret
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  94. [15:50:38] <jibot> marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
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  109. [17:21:09] <openid_pibb> <=eran> Any XRDS + OpenID 1.0 experts around?
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  111. [17:23:44] <jibot> marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
  112. [17:32:51] <openid_pibb> <=eran> Trying to figure out how to turn this:
  113. [17:32:52] <openid_pibb> <=eran> -
  114. [17:33:12] <openid_pibb> <=eran>
  115. [17:33:53] <openid_pibb> <=eran> &lt;Service priority="10"&gt;
  116. [17:33:54] <openid_pibb> <=eran> &lt;Type select="true"&gt;http://openid.net/signon/1.0&lt;/Type&gt;
  117. [17:34:03] <openid_pibb> <=eran> &lt;ProviderID /&gt;
  118. [17:34:15] <openid_pibb> <=eran> &lt;URI append="none" priority="2"&gt;http://2idi.com/openid/&lt;/URI&gt;
  119. [17:34:26] <openid_pibb> <=eran> &lt;URI append="none" priority="1"&gt;https://2idi.com/openid/&lt;/URI&gt;
  120. [17:34:27] <openid_pibb> <=eran> &lt;/Service&gt;
  121. [17:34:46] <openid_pibb> <=eran> into an OpenID 1.1 request
  122. [17:35:48] <openid_pibb> <=eran> Any help? I know this works because it's in my =eran XRDS file and I can login using it to sites that support XRI in OpenID
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  133. [18:14:38] <GabeW> =eran, you still there?
  134. [18:17:50] <Melvster> hmm everyone got an iname except me :(
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  136. [18:21:47] <jibot> marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
  137. [18:27:11] <openid_pibb> <=eran> hi GabeW
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  139. [18:27:42] <openid_pibb> <=eran> Still here
  140. [18:33:07] <openid_pibb> <=eran> I'll be here all day if anyone can help out...
  141. [18:43:17] <GabeW> ok
  142. [18:43:21] <GabeW> i'm just going out
  143. [18:43:52] <GabeW> be back in an hour or two
  144. [18:45:02] <openid_pibb> <=eran> cool
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  149. [20:28:28] <openid_pibb> <keturn> =eran: the content of the URI element is the OpenID server endpoint
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  151. [20:53:41] <openid_pibb> <=eran> What do I use for the identity?
  152. [20:53:52] <openid_pibb> <=eran> this is an OpenID 1.1 provider
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  154. [21:01:55] <openid_pibb> <Atom Dude> hi y'all - anybody have an OpenID 2.0 provider up and running that supports directed identity?
  155. [21:03:40] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> myopenid.com supports both
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  159. [21:30:06] <openid_pibb> <Atom Dude> cygnus - really? when i try to login to Jyte using "myopenid.com" as my OP-identifier, i get an error
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  161. [21:31:19] <openid_pibb> <Atom Dude> i thought in OpenID 2.0, I could type in "openid.com" as my OP Identifier, and then my OP will return my actual OpenID (atom.myopenid.com)
  162. [21:33:14] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> well, Jyte isn't an OpenID 2 RP. :)
  163. [21:33:56] <openid_pibb> <Atom Dude> ah
  164. [21:34:06] <openid_pibb> <Atom Dude> Got an OpenID 2 RP?
  165. [21:35:18] <openid_pibb> <keturn> =eran: the normalized form of the identifier, which is probably =eran or xri://=eran depending on who you ask
  166. [21:36:53] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> http://openidenabled.com/python-openid/trunk/examples/consumer/
  167. [21:39:20] <openid_pibb> <Atom Dude> ah ha
  168. [21:39:41] <openid_pibb> <Atom Dude> i had to re-login to myopenid.com though
  169. [21:45:54] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> Heeey, it's atom dude!
  170. [21:45:55] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> Hi atom dude!
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  172. [21:52:01] <claudio> "Relying Parry" in Draft 12
  173. [21:54:06] <openid_pibb> <Atom Dude> Hi Blueberry!
  174. [21:56:01] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> ** Blueberry hugs atom!
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  176. [21:56:21] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> I have to go in about an hour to go vulenteer at riding for the disabled
  177. [21:56:31] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> is a day of horsies!
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  179. [21:56:53] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> I just got a funky new camera though so there will be lots of horse pictures on my flickr later today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jennathepony/
  180. [21:56:54] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> if you like horses :)
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  182. [22:03:30] <openid_pibb> <Atom Dude> i like horse pics!
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  184. [22:06:48] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> cool! keep watching my flickr then! more will come today and tomorrow!
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  186. [22:24:52] <darkskiez> in the php openid lib, is there a proper way with the api to maintain your logged in session once you get the callback, or are you just meant to store the callback details against the $_SESSION yourself?
  187. [22:34:55] <openid_pibb> <Atom Dude> shouldn't you just stuff the session info into the openid.return_to url?
  188. [22:37:10] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> darkskiez, the "callback details" can be added to the return URL that you construct with $auth_req->redirectURL().
  189. [22:37:31] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> as for session and login state, one usually does that with $_SESSION which uses a cookie if possible.
  190. [22:38:19] <darkskiez> yes, thats what i thought, i just wondered if there were api's to test the validatation your session
  191. [22:38:45] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> what's to validate?
  192. [22:39:00] <darkskiez> that the user hasnt logged out of their provider for example
  193. [22:39:26] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> but the user is free to log out of the provider at any time...
  194. [22:39:49] <darkskiez> yes, but they stay logged into any sites with sessions they are logged into, yes ?
  195. [22:40:09] <openid_pibb> <Atom Dude> there is no single sign out :(
  196. [22:40:10] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> Yeah.
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  198. [22:41:07] <darkskiez> i noticed in the store/associations, there was a token with a timetime, i wasnt sure how this was used.
  199. [22:41:25] <darkskiez> timetime=lifetime
  200. [22:41:26] <darkskiez> :)
  201. [22:41:41] <darkskiez> is that just for the setup phase
  202. [22:41:54] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> Associations have an expiration which prevents the RP from associating with the server *every* time a request is initiated.
  203. [22:42:43] <darkskiez> yes, so there is some sort of test you do on each request?
  204. [22:43:25] <darkskiez> basically, once you have the openid from the login and other detail, is that you totally finished with the openid api ?
  205. [22:44:19] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> that's right, that's all you need to do
  206. [22:44:41] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> the same is true with username/password-driven authentication; you employ that once to get the user to authenticate, then you store something in the session.
  207. [23:02:31] * don-o (n=donp@206.163.122.98) Quit ("Changing server")
  208. [23:07:12] <darkskiez> every so often i'm getting Warning: Bad server URL: in Auth/OpenID/FileStore.php on line 136
  209. [23:07:28] <darkskiez> other times it works
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  212. [23:28:16] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> then there's a server url (either HTML openid.server LINK tag or XRDS URI tag) without "://" in it
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  219. [23:46:34] <claudio> which is the most used Java library?
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  221. [23:46:56] <claudio> I'm just trying to stack them up, from the most robust
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