IRC Log for #openid on 2007-11-05

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  54. [15:30:11] <NASA> could someone help me on php based standalone server
  55. [15:30:31] <NASA> I keep getting :
  56. [15:30:33] <NASA> Fatal error: Call to undefined function: fixargs() in /home/asorta/domains/mioid.com/public_html/src/render.php on line 385
  57. [15:31:59] <NASA> I've found in recent channel logs cygnus explanation, that problem is based on versions, standalone server is based on 1.0 php lib version, while I use 2 rc
  58. [15:32:14] <NASA> indeed then I get this particular error
  59. [15:32:56] <NASA> but when I switch to 1.2.3, i get more errors, Yadis stuff mainly
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  65. [16:54:09] <JoeSniff> I've noticed that the PHP OpenID Library 1.2.3 does not support https due to a missing paramter in the curl call. Just wondering if anyone else has come across this?
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  67. [16:55:58] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> what's missing?
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  69. [17:02:17] <JoeSniff> without this line I cannot get Yadis - ParanoidHTTPFetcher to accept a https Identify provider endpoint - curl_setopt($c, CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYPEER, FALSE)
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  71. [17:03:48] <JoeSniff> It smells slightly dangerous, still experimenting with curl_setopt
  72. [17:03:53] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> generally speaking, verifying is a good thing.
  73. [17:05:30] * JoeSniff nods Just cannot get a ssl connection otherwise (ssl connection to https://pip.verisignlabs.com/server)
  74. [17:06:48] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> hm. I'm able to use a curl-based fetcher to fetch that without issue.
  75. [17:07:14] <JoeSniff> Looks like its just me then :( Thanks for checking.
  76. [17:07:16] <NASA> sorry for interupting: is there any standalone server supporting php lib rc2
  77. [17:07:44] <NASA> a cannot get it server v 1.1. working
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  79. [17:08:31] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> NASA, I don't know of one.
  80. [17:09:24] <NASA> ok, is there any manual or step-by-step alike guide for launching on
  81. [17:09:25] <NASA> e
  82. [17:09:51] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> launching as in implementing?
  83. [17:09:57] <NASA> I'm not hell of the programmer, graduated Computer science, but with networking specialization
  84. [17:10:06] <NASA> yep, implementing
  85. [17:10:24] <NASA> I tried to play with php librarary and example included
  86. [17:10:37] <NASA> but it is such programming mess, includes after includes
  87. [17:10:49] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> there isn't, but the current standalone server code could be modified slightly to work with the 2.x.x library. it wouldn't take advantage of OpenID 2 features, but it would work.
  88. [17:10:53] <NASA> so hard to understand logic, where the calls are and such
  89. [17:11:00] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> What problem did you have with the library?
  90. [17:11:12] <NASA> not with library itself
  91. [17:11:23] <NASA> I got the library, got the example working
  92. [17:11:42] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> ah, great.
  93. [17:12:09] <NASA> and then, I though of biulding up on the example service of mine, but it is so difficult to find the ends
  94. [17:12:46] <NASA> I just want working implementation, connection to sql so I could build up interface and all the other bits and pieces
  95. [17:12:57] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> One option is to start with the example server or consumer and build from there.
  96. [17:13:25] <NASA> that is exactly what I was thinking about
  97. [17:14:04] <NASA> but example itself, many files, function after function, it is very messy
  98. [17:14:12] <NASA> I cant get right to the logic
  99. [17:14:27] <NASA> like, ok, here is API calls file
  100. [17:14:42] <NASA> here is protocol implementation
  101. [17:14:45] <NASA> etc.
  102. [17:14:50] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> But NASA, the logic is divided into logical little pieces. :)
  103. [17:15:12] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> At any rate, if you can think of ways to improve it, I strongly encourage you to send patches to the development list.
  104. [17:15:34] <NASA> ok, I do believe that, but it lacks documentation
  105. [17:15:48] <NASA> PibbRelay: it is not the patches thing
  106. [17:15:52] <PibbRelay> NASA: Error: "it" is not a valid command.
  107. [17:16:27] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> patches thing?
  108. [17:17:24] <NASA> I mean, except of that standalone server implementation, I got no error or such
  109. [17:18:01] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> You got no error when doing what?
  110. [17:18:40] <NASA> ahh, sorry, I posted like 1 hour ago my issue with php standalone server v 1.1. and library
  111. [17:19:00] * NASA sorry, must go 5 mins away
  112. [17:19:33] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> But you left no details about what was going wrong.
  113. [17:20:44] <NASA> PibbRelay: I found the log of this channel where similar problem was escalated
  114. [17:20:45] <PibbRelay> NASA: Error: "I" is not a valid command.
  115. [17:21:38] <NASA> I got to the point where I think the issue is with yadis, which using php lib 1.X should be installed separately
  116. [17:22:11] <NASA> as I run everything on shared hosting server, I'm working our the way to add Yadis to php path
  117. [17:24:28] <NASA> that is one separate issue
  118. [17:24:29] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> That's not true of the latest 1.x.x release
  119. [17:24:50] <NASA> yes, I was refering to that
  120. [17:25:00] <NASA> release 1.2.3
  121. [17:25:05] <NASA> most current one
  122. [17:25:22] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> Alright, so you don't need to add Yadis to your include path.
  123. [17:25:31] <NASA> hmm, realy?
  124. [17:25:33] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> I mean, you need to install both Auth/ and Services/ into your include path.
  125. [17:25:43] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> but if you can do one, you can do the other.
  126. [17:26:32] <NASA> that is the problem, as the server is shared, I have access only to ".", or local dir
  127. [17:27:01] <NASA> I've put Services dir to the very same, there my Auth is, and that does not work
  128. [17:27:08] <NASA> altho Auth libs are available
  129. [17:27:14] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> Have you tried the 2.x.x library? That also includes an example server, and it doesn't have this include path problem.
  130. [17:27:58] <NASA> I did
  131. [17:28:02] <NASA> but I get the error
  132. [17:28:11] <NASA> one sec, I will post it here
  133. [17:28:41] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> Great.
  134. [17:34:28] <NASA> Call to undefined function: fixargs()
  135. [17:36:17] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> what's the rest of the message?
  136. [17:37:05] <NASA> full errros is: "atal error: Call to undefined function: fixargs() in /home/asorta/domains/mioid.com/public_html/src/render.php on line 385"
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  138. [17:38:06] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> you need to run the example server, not the standalone server.
  139. [17:39:21] <NASA> hmm
  140. [17:39:23] <NASA> why?
  141. [17:39:32] <NASA> I got the example server running
  142. [17:39:38] <NASA> as it is
  143. [17:40:51] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> Because the standalone server hasn't been updated to use the 2.x.x library. *Most* of the code in the standalone server is still relevant and the update wouldn't take much work, but for now the example server is going to be your best bet if you want to start hacking on something of your own.
  144. [17:42:00] <NASA> but I have difficulties expanding it, ammending, coz I can't understand the logic
  145. [17:42:18] <NASA> I started from the beginning init(); function
  146. [17:42:44] <NASA> and then I get sucked into going through tens of files and links and so on
  147. [17:42:55] <NASA> there are many functions
  148. [17:43:14] <NASA> and no notes explaining what is happening in that particular function
  149. [17:44:10] <NASA> it is difficult to understand because there are many references to library, and one get lost between server example code and library code
  150. [17:44:18] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> It's true, the example server could use some documentation. However, I believe the pieces of logic are small enough that they could be easily documented by someone that isn't that familiar with the code.
  151. [17:44:31] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> The function names should give pretty good clues as to their uses.
  152. [17:44:42] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> Actually, there are very *few* references into the library.
  153. [17:45:07] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> but if in doubt, look for the Auth_OpenID_ prefix on class names.
  154. [17:45:21] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> that indicates a library class.
  155. [17:45:58] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> But if you're inclined to spend time writing up docstrings for any functions you understand, I'll gladly accept your patches.
  156. [17:46:36] <NASA> I could do that
  157. [17:47:32] <NASA> If while playing around in the way to get the server working I get to understand some code, I'd gladly add few notes here and there
  158. [17:47:55] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> Cool.
  159. [17:51:08] <NASA> ech..
  160. [17:51:38] <NASA> I guess I'll launch my vmware server with rc2 lib exmaple and start playing around
  161. [17:52:01] <NASA> any ideas regarding java lib example server
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  163. [17:53:24] <NASA> designwise, java server as servlet should be more efficient than any php, python or ruby
  164. [17:55:59] <JoeSniff> just out of interest the solution to my problem with SSL and yadis: Windows Apache version does not have a full cURL installation, It will not read curl-ca-bundle.crt in the folder with php_curl.dll
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  167. [18:00:01] <JoeSniff> curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_CAINFO, �C:/accessible/by/apache/cacert.pem); Is the magic solution :)
  168. [18:02:05] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> ah, I see.
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  177. [19:24:45] <NASA> problem
  178. [19:25:10] <NASA> Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /home/asorta/domains/mioid.com/Auth/OpenID/Server.php on line 1291
  179. [19:25:40] <NASA> that turned out when I got the /dev/urandom problem
  180. [19:26:18] <NASA> I then specified in config.php
  181. [19:26:19] <NASA> define('Auth_OpenID_RAND_SOURCE', null);
  182. [19:26:29] <NASA> and got that non-object error
  183. [19:26:32] <NASA> any ideas?
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  199. [21:18:22] <PibbRelay> <Jeff> Does anyone know if an Open Source OpenID server has been released by anyone written in php and mysql backend?
  200. [21:20:20] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> http://openidenabled.com/files/php-server/files/PHP-server-1.1.tar.gz works with MySQL, among others.
  201. [21:21:03] <PibbRelay> <Jeff> Thanks. I will check that out this evening.
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  218. [23:58:50] <EricIsGood> I just installed http://www.openidenabled.com/php-standalone-openid-server does anyone know if the database tables called 'accounts' and 'identities' will always be 1 to 1?

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