IRC Log for #openid on 2007-11-10

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  22. [01:16:51] <PibbRelay> <wizardwatson> Any javascript gurus want to build a consumer library for OpenID in sjs?
  23. [01:16:58] <PibbRelay> <wizardwatson> Come on, you know you want to.
  24. [01:18:29] <PibbRelay> <wizardwatson> Needed for this gem: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3002
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  26. [01:21:03] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> whats sjs?
  27. [01:23:26] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> is that a typo or a buzzword? :P
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  29. [01:23:50] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> ooooh, server side js
  30. [01:23:52] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> rightyo
  31. [01:24:01] <PibbRelay> <wizardwatson> Server side javascript. Really it's just what the POW extension developer is calling the javascript you can write in his extension much like php or asp. But it's just javascript that runs in firefox chrome
  32. [01:24:23] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> i'm not sure why you'd want to authenticate yourself to your own computer's local server though?
  33. [01:25:06] <PibbRelay> <wizardwatson> It's for authing outside people who access your server, that is in your browser. I know it's weird.
  34. [01:25:39] <PibbRelay> <wizardwatson> You know you want an http server in your browser. You knoooow you do....
  35. [01:26:23] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> well, I'm quite the javascript guru
  36. [01:26:34] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> but two things, I don't see this getting used a whole lot, and I hate (and I really mean hate) firefox
  37. [01:26:46] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> i'd rather use IE7 than firefox, or opera, or lynx!
  38. [01:27:01] <PibbRelay> <wizardwatson> http://ajaxian.com/archives/pow-excuse-me-sir-you-seem-to-have-a-server-in-your-client
  39. [01:27:11] <PibbRelay> <wizardwatson> I guess that means your out.
  40. [01:27:37] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> which is why I wont be in this room for much longer as pibb currently doesn't work in safari
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  60. [06:49:05] <Blueberry> Heya guys!
  61. [06:49:17] <Blueberry> Here I am in irc, sick of pibb!
  62. [06:50:25] <Blueberry> Wondering some input, i'm building a little publishing app which uses openid as authentication then lets the user publish documents to the web which they make inside the ui of the app
  63. [06:50:39] <Blueberry> pretty simple, but how should I namespace it do you think?
  64. [06:51:54] <Blueberry> http://appdomain/entries/something-here/article-name i suppose, but something-here.. what goes there? a database row number connected to their id? a hash of their openid? a custom namespace they pick, like a username?
  65. [07:08:53] <Blueberry> hellooooo?
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  77. [11:30:01] <rmacd> personally blueberry I'd go for the username
  78. [11:30:16] <Blueberry> hmm
  79. [11:30:36] <rmacd> what are the alternatives you were thinking of?
  80. [11:30:54] <rmacd> you could have date/time for example
  81. [11:31:07] <rmacd> or keywords
  82. [11:31:11] <Blueberry> hashing the openid and using the hash as the url in the identifier, or storing the account details in a database of some sort and using the row ID of that account as a numeric identifier
  83. [11:31:29] <Blueberry> but then people act like they're so extra cool for having a lower id number and that's kinda lame
  84. [11:31:44] <rmacd> I don't think that's worth worrying about
  85. [11:32:05] <rmacd> unless you're targeting the ub3r l337
  86. [11:32:19] <Blueberry> mind you so far in the project i'm not using any database software, so i'd rather not unless I can think of a better reason than to get row id's :P
  87. [11:32:20] <rmacd> :-/
  88. [11:32:50] <Blueberry> well, it's targeted towards those who do roleplaying through the internet mostly, so they're pretty much all nerdy to some extent
  89. [11:32:58] <rmacd> well, this is for content, which can be accessed without auth on the net
  90. [11:33:00] <rmacd> ?
  91. [11:33:06] <Blueberry> yep
  92. [11:33:17] <Blueberry> editing requires authentication as the creator of the content
  93. [11:33:53] <Blueberry> but the service will output and host plain static html and friends as the result of said editing, along with an internal copy in json which the editor can read in for future editing
  94. [11:33:56] <rmacd> you're better keeping a table of articles vs. id, and maybe keep the url simple
  95. [11:34:11] <Blueberry> table? i'm not using a database
  96. [11:34:33] <rmacd> well, flat file then
  97. [11:34:35] <Blueberry> it's not a cms, there is nothing dynamic about it, database is overkill
  98. [11:35:01] <Blueberry> at the moment i'm not storing any account info at all, logging in does not create anything but a session
  99. [11:35:15] <rmacd> well, fair enough
  100. [11:35:22] <rmacd> maybe im making it a bit complicated
  101. [11:35:30] <Blueberry> then you can create documents in the namespace of your openid and no other namespace, and if you don't, you cease to exist when your session does :)
  102. [11:35:46] <Blueberry> sql is pretty standard in web dev, but i like doing things different where I can :)
  103. [11:36:24] <Blueberry> besides, i never did make that newbie dream come true of making software which uses no database back when I was first starting out
  104. [11:36:31] <Blueberry> seems like the perfect chance!
  105. [11:40:29] <Blueberry> I think i'll just hash their openid
  106. [11:41:08] <Blueberry> though that has risks if techniques evolve for creating collisions in whatever algorithm I use..
  107. [11:41:09] <Blueberry> drat..
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  110. [12:02:33] <Blueberry> maybe I will just do the username thing and have a default username of all the a-z parts of the openid except the network protocol, seperated by hypens
  111. [12:02:36] <Blueberry> that will work
  112. [12:02:43] <Blueberry> I think
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