IRC Log for #openid on 2007-12-26

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  3. [00:18:23] <jibot> Woosta is deeply sorry that the channel gets spammed every time he joins
  4. [00:20:58] <Woosta> Anyone know of a site that uses openID (optional or otherwise) for registration? I'm trying to work out the 'best' workflow.
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  6. [00:59:42] <Peng> Woosta: Nice.
  7. [00:59:56] <Peng> (on the jibot message)
  8. [01:00:01] <Woosta> heh
  9. [01:00:40] <Peng> JanRain's http://pibb.com/ or http://jyte.com/ ?
  10. [01:00:49] * Peng shrugs.
  11. [01:01:09] <Peng> I'd rather watch gorey TV while sweating in all of my Christmas pajamas than discuss OpenID. Bye. :P
  12. [01:01:28] <Woosta> LOL
  13. [01:19:25] <radix> man, claimID is extremely confusing.
  14. [01:22:23] <radix> I mean, as someone who is well-versed enough in OpenID to create a consumer site, their About page is totally confounding.
  15. [01:26:27] <ronny> heh - reminds me i still have to do my consumer/producer lib
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  23. [05:55:01] <jibot> Skwid_ is cool
  24. [06:01:49] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> I agree, what the heck are they doing using terms like 'XFN Profile' in their forms?
  25. [06:03:08] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> I had a really hard time figuring out why they even exist. I'd like to see them removed from http://openid.net/get/ as I think they will confuse and scare users away
  26. [06:03:31] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> Or at very least get them out of the top left position
  27. [06:04:42] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> MyOpenID is a much nicer, friendlier site, and it's somewhat buried in that pile. The other services are quite nice from my little experience with them too :)
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  31. [07:28:16] <PibbRelay> <radix> Whoah, welcome to the other side.
  32. [07:28:26] <PibbRelay> <radix> me.
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  35. [07:54:30] <flaccid> hmm trying to find a regex for use with php to check for a valid openid url
  36. [07:58:12] <donomo> flaccid: it seems the most you could say with a regex is that its a URL
  37. [07:58:37] <flaccid> yeah im trying to find a regex that works for valid url
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  49. [11:02:53] <Woosta> flaccid: This will check most domain names: /^([a-z-]\.)+[a-z]+$/i ... it doesn't allow for other character sets which I understand are now allowed in some tlds
  50. [11:03:07] <Woosta> (I know it's three hours ago, but I just saw your Q :-D)
  51. [11:05:25] <Peng> What about using a real URL parser (like urlparse in Python) and seeing if it fails?
  52. [11:09:21] <Woosta> He's using PHP .. dunno if it comes with such a beastie. Though with > 3000 core functions surely there's one there somewhere :-D
  53. [11:11:07] <Peng> Oh. Missed that.
  54. [11:11:22] <Peng> All I saw was "regex". :P
  55. [11:12:56] <Woosta> I'd be surprised if urlparse could deal with utf8 domains though .. and if so, if it knew the correct character ranges for each of the tlds that allow them
  56. [11:13:51] <Peng> True.
  57. [11:15:07] <Woosta> /^\S+\.[a-z]+$/ would be about it so far as prevalidation goes. Then just try and use it.
  58. [11:15:16] <Woosta> (from an openid perspective)
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  81. [18:29:31] <jibot> Skwid_ is cool
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  88. [19:10:51] <flaccid> Woosta: so you reckon just /^\S+\.[a-z]+$/ is practical enough for URL validation?
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  90. [19:20:05] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> flaccid, you can use a regex to check URL syntax, but that is not the same thing as "being a valid OpenID URL" (emphasis on "OpenID")
  91. [19:20:30] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> and not all valid OpenIDs are URLs; if you're using the openidenabled.com libraries, then even XRIs are valid and they will not match any such regex.
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  93. [19:26:10] <flaccid> ah ok PibbRelay, so you are basically saying no need for regex?
  94. [19:26:29] <flaccid> sweet don't have to use it, if i do i will block out some users i assume
  95. [19:27:25] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> yeah, it's possible. but my point is, the library will handle that check for you by attempting to use the OpenID protocol on the input. It'll tell you if it's not valid for one reason or another.
  96. [19:28:22] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> and generally speaking, *any* identifier can be used with OpenID so long as there's a discovery mechanism for that type of identifier (e.g., XRI).
  97. [19:28:24] <flaccid> thats true, i check the response, so thats all i need to do, it looks after that stuff. thanks for enlightening me
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  99. [19:28:34] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> np
  100. [19:28:37] <flaccid> im not up with this xri stuff but sweet as
  101. [19:28:44] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> Which library are you using?
  102. [19:28:50] <flaccid> um i'll check
  103. [19:29:17] <flaccid> http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2007/01/11/cakephp-and-openid/
  104. [19:29:26] <flaccid> which is http://www.openidenabled.com/openid/libraries/php i think
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  113. [23:06:54] <ronny> what do you guys think about http://oauth.net/
  114. [23:16:44] <Peng> I think...I need to read it.
  115. [23:18:35] <Woosta> oauth is about API auth
  116. [23:18:54] <Woosta> as opposed to openID which is about user auth
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