IRC Log for #openid on 2008-01-03

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  25. [04:36:51] <flaccid> that was cool joining the mailing list/mailman via openid
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  93. [12:22:13] <NiZoX> hi
  94. [12:22:22] <Mitsurugi> hi
  95. [12:22:33] <Makenshi> hi
  96. [12:29:05] <flaccid> thai
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  98. [12:32:29] <NiZoX> Do you think possible to use OpenID with IRC services like anope ?
  99. [12:34:18] <Makenshi> If anope uses http, then yes, otherwise, no
  100. [12:34:55] <NiZoX> we can code a plugin
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  145. [23:19:21] <niekie> Just wondering: can one trust the claimed ID, or should the local ID always be used for authentication purposes?
  146. [23:21:52] <niekie> I'm using the JanRain PHP library.
  147. [23:23:26] <_keturn> you should trust the claimed ID after it's been verified by the library and the provider. Your application shouldn't really be aware of the OP-local identifier.
  148. [23:23:35] <niekie> Ah.
  149. [23:24:20] <niekie> So I can just do if ($response->getDisplayIdentifier() == "http://niekie.com/") { $_SESSION['admin'] == true; } safely?
  150. [23:24:43] <niekie> Err.. =, not == :)
  151. [23:25:51] <Manfre> it would make more sense to have a table that maps your local ID to the openIDs and use that as an authentication method, so it'll still hit up the DB to verify info, but it would use the openid instead of user/pass
  152. [23:26:24] <niekie> Huh?
  153. [23:26:34] <niekie> Wouldn't that break OpenID provider changing, though?
  154. [23:27:01] <niekie> Manfre: I don't mean local ID as in a local authentication DB with usernames/passwords :)
  155. [23:27:02] <Manfre> users would attach openids to their local account
  156. [23:27:28] <Manfre> so if they change their openid, then they would need to update the binding
  157. [23:27:52] <niekie> Manfre: I don't mean that :)
  158. [23:28:05] <niekie> I meant, for example, niekie.com delegates to niekie.myopenid.com.
  159. [23:28:30] <niekie> Should my application then trust the claimed ID value of niekie.com, or use the IDP ID, niekie.myopenid.com
  160. [23:28:36] <Manfre> you would store niekie.com instead of niekie.myopenid.com
  161. [23:28:38] <niekie> I assume just trust the claimed ID.
  162. [23:28:49] <niekie> Manfre: yup, I guessed so.
  163. [23:29:16] <Manfre> it doesn't matter how it is handled once you pass stuff off to the library...as far as your app is concerned, the person either validated or not based upon niekie.com
  164. [23:30:27] <niekie> Allright.
  165. [23:30:42] * niekie added some sweet stuff to his OpenID login handler.
  166. [23:31:14] <niekie> It now also accepts Jabber logins, thanks to some magic, and the openid.xmpp.za.net XEP-0070 OpenID provider :)
  167. [23:33:00] <niekie> It just smartly rewrites some URLs.
  168. [23:34:31] <Manfre> cool
  169. [23:37:08] <johill> does that provider work again?
  170. [23:38:32] <niekie> I think so.
  171. [23:38:37] <niekie> But it just had a few DNS troubles.
  172. [23:38:40] <niekie> I talked to the admin.
  173. [23:38:53] <niekie> Works for me at the moment.
  174. [23:39:41] <Makenshi> Seems to, just signed in here.
  175. [23:44:29] <Makenshi> Amusing comment.. "ICANN has IPv6" (think lolcats)
  176. [23:45:10] <niekie> Hah.
  177. [23:45:33] <Makenshi> (for the record.. ORSN beat them to it, by a long margin)
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  179. [23:50:31] <Makenshi> heh, awesome, i migh implement openid.[mydomain]/[username] at my workplace with that iDP
  180. [23:50:41] <Makenshi> would make it a dead snip as we already provide xmpp service
  181. [23:51:25] <Makenshi> just need to update the xmpp server to use AD instead of the deprecated LDAP directory and write a page
  182. [23:52:10] <Makenshi> Assuming that referrals work with it
  183. [23:56:40] <Makenshi> It does.. huzzah :)
  184. [23:57:33] <SunSparc> Verio has IPv6 also, but it is not as amusing to say so.
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