IRC Log for #openid on 2008-02-17

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  10. [02:56:24] <dbounds> hi.
  11. [02:56:30] * dbounds is now known as darrenb
  12. [02:57:50] <darrenb> i and my friend are just putting the finishing touches on a port of openid4java to .NET
  13. [02:58:21] <darrenb> we currently have all provider functions working properly for 1.x and 2.0
  14. [02:59:01] <darrenb> we'll be releasing it on our new openid provider site (www.beemba.com) within the next couple weeks
  15. [02:59:10] <darrenb> currently the site is in beta.. alpha really
  16. [02:59:13] <darrenb> but is functional
  17. [02:59:49] <darrenb> just bringing it up in case anyone is interested in getting their hands on the library
  18. [03:23:06] <flaccid_> is there a project?
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  22. [04:16:31] <keturn> darrenb: this is a library other than http://code.google.com/p/dotnetopenid/ ?
  23. [04:37:00] <darrenb> yes. it's a direct port of the openid4java library
  24. [04:38:06] <darrenb> http://code.google.com/p/openid4java/
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  27. [04:46:44] <keturn> Is it available yet? How are you licensing it? I think you'll find a fair bit of interest in it.
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  29. [04:49:12] <darrenb> it isn't available yet but it will be shortly (1-2 weeks). uncertainly on the particular license, likely apache 2.0.
  30. [04:49:19] <darrenb> er uncertain
  31. [04:49:31] <keturn> cool
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  33. [04:53:06] <darrenb> anyways, if anyone has any questions regarding it, email me at dbounds@gmail.com
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  99. [22:18:57] <SignpostMarv> quick question: how deep is an OpenID consumer app meant to follow delegate urls ?
  100. [22:31:14] <keturn> not at all. you don't do discovery on a delegate url, it's just the identifier you pass to the endpoint you discover in that first page.
  101. [22:33:42] <SignpostMarv> user passes link A to site
  102. [22:33:56] <SignpostMarv> site finds A points to delegate B
  103. [22:34:05] <SignpostMarv> which redirects/ points to delegate C
  104. [22:34:30] <keturn> "redirect" is very different from "openid.delegate", or, as we call it now, "openid2.local_id"
  105. [22:34:52] <SignpostMarv> ookay, let me rephrase
  106. [22:35:07] <SignpostMarv> how does the OpenID spec handle redirected urls
  107. [22:36:22] <keturn> okay, that's easier. you follow 30x redirects until the end or until you get tired of following links and you think they're trying to exhaust your resources.
  108. [22:37:16] <SignpostMarv> does the OpenID spec not specify a limit on redirects to follow, or how to interperate any "last modified" headers that come along with it ?
  109. [22:38:49] <keturn> the spec doesn't specify a limit. "last modified" headers should be interpreted for caching purposes as per http standard.
  110. [22:39:23] <SignpostMarv> then it follows "should it" ?
  111. [22:40:44] <SignpostMarv> "follow till you get tired" seems a bit vague, and might result in different experiences between different consumers
  112. [22:41:11] <keturn> specify a limit? perhaps, because, practically speaking, there must be _some_ limit, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to standardize that limit. On the other hand, hopefully nobody will really set up an identifier they really want to use that does more than a few redirects.
  113. [22:41:55] <SignpostMarv> i'm thinking more the kind of thing where an identity provider might change hands a few times, and they get redirected & redirected & redirected
  114. [22:42:57] <SignpostMarv> there's also....
  115. [22:43:22] <SignpostMarv> CURLOPT_MAXREDIRS
  116. [22:43:44] <SignpostMarv> different peeps might specify differnt values as defaults
  117. [22:44:20] <keturn> the other thing to keep in mind there is that when a redirect is followed, that's a different claimed identifier. so if passport.net buys livejournal.com and they start redirecting keturn.livejournal.com to passport.net/id/keturn,
  118. [22:44:55] <keturn> any time I enter my lj.com address, the site will follow the redirect and log me in as a passport.net address, not the lj address I'd used with them previously.
  119. [22:50:36] <SignpostMarv> shall i bring it up on the mailing list, or would you care to do the honors ?
  120. [22:53:54] <keturn> go ahead
  121. [22:55:06] <SignpostMarv> i just have to find where i put the damn folder :-P
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  123. [23:08:08] <SignpostMarv> sent
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