IRC Log for #openid on 2008-02-20
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- [06:42:59] <GabeW>
janrainer?
- [06:43:11] <GabeW>
janrainers, rather
- [07:06:10] <flaccid>
yeah they hang here sometimes
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- [07:12:43] <GabeW>
yes, I know
- [07:12:46] <GabeW>
thats why I was poking
- [07:13:00] <flaccid>
oh poking
- [07:13:08] <flaccid>
didn't know this was facebook lol
- [07:13:12] <flaccid>
:p
- [07:14:35] <GabeW>
har
- [07:15:47] <flaccid>
you might have better luck on pibb.com
- [07:16:18] <GabeW>
9i'll just wait until keturn talks
- [07:16:19] <GabeW>
;)
- [07:16:47] <flaccid>
true
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- [07:17:26] <flaccid>
you an openid dev?
- [07:18:28] <GabeW>
well, involved in the spec work, and the IPR POLIC
- [07:18:30] <GabeW>
woops
- [07:18:32] <GabeW>
ipr policy
- [07:18:54] <flaccid>
ah
- [07:19:02] <flaccid>
maybe thats why your handle looks familiar
- [07:19:24] <GabeW>
well, i'm in a number of IRC channels
- [07:19:42] <flaccid>
true
- [07:20:36] <flaccid>
im excited about finishing my cakephp openid server, but i need a break from coding before i explode
- [07:20:43] <GabeW>
heh
- [07:20:45] <GabeW>
cool
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- [07:21:08] <flaccid>
trying to make it so the janrain libs are upgradeable and untouched...
- [07:21:22] <GabeW>
nice
- [07:22:18] <flaccid>
its all good now. just need to do the nitty gritty after openid association. i guess spec 2.0 will remain current for some time?
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- [09:39:03] <ShishKabab>
Hello! I'm implementing OpenID in my website, but have a little problem. Could someone please help?
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- [15:35:58] <keturn>
good morning GabeW
- [15:36:47] <gazz_>
aww, the rest of us don't get a 'good morning'? Or were you only certain of GabeW's timezone? :D
- [15:37:07] <gazz_>
or did he just stop being away
- [15:37:12] <gazz_>
*shrugs*
- [15:37:28] <keturn>
actually he's probably still asleep. he's just the one who had poked me since I last looked at the irc client.
- [15:37:39] <gazz_>
aha.
- [15:37:49] <gazz_>
no need for us to feel left out then :)
- [15:37:58] <gazz_>
good morning, anyway... :)
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- [16:16:10] <CGamesPlay>
anyone around using PostgreSQLStore who could do a quick test on the library, please message me.
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- [18:40:53] <GabeW>
hi again
- [18:40:53] <GabeW>
yes
- [18:41:00] <GabeW>
I was up way later than I normally am and here I am
- [18:41:28] <GabeW>
I was bugging the janrain folks about the python lib - I was trying to see how to do some new behavior but i was getting lost in the abstractions of the python-opeind code
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- [18:46:44] <_keturn>
Get it sorted out yet?
- [18:48:28] <GabeW>
not at all
- [18:48:31] <GabeW>
but I'm on other things right now
- [18:48:53] <GabeW>
basically, I'd like to get other metadata out of the discovery phase when doing openid on the consumer side
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- [18:49:51] <_keturn>
ah, yes. that is the most abstractionoriffic part of the code, isn't it.
- [18:49:58] <GabeW>
hehe
- [18:50:12] <GabeW>
it was hard to get through in the middle of the night with my continuous partial attention
- [18:51:16] <_keturn>
but then, "other metadata during discovery" sound suspiciously like why all those abstractions are there, so we'll see how well it holds up to this test.
- [18:51:49] <GabeW>
well, yes, but I couldn't figure out the purpose or mechanics of the abstractions
- [18:52:02] <GabeW>
e.g. the "filter" module seems misnamed
- [18:52:16] <GabeW>
but I'm not sure
- [18:52:17] <GabeW>
anyway
- [18:52:26] <GabeW>
I'm off doing something else - just wanted to pre-orient you ;)
- [18:52:33] <_keturn>
okay
- [18:55:14] <PibbRelay>
<cygnus> GabeW, the filter stuff is overkill. :(
- [19:00:36] <GabeW>
i tend to think that abstractions like that are pain in python
- [19:01:04] <GabeW>
since you can often easily just "replace" or "compose" using language constructs rather than complex OO interface/inheritance gooeyness
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- [19:47:00] <GabeW>
ok
- [19:47:05] <GabeW>
keturn: you there?
- [19:47:08] <GabeW>
or cygnus?
- [19:47:14] <GabeW>
whoever is the python-openid master?
- [19:48:01] <_keturn>
yeah
- [19:49:21] <GabeW>
ok, so I want to be able to extract other SEPs (other Typed URI endpoints)
- [19:49:27] <GabeW>
when I do discovery for the purpose of openid auth
- [19:50:00] <GabeW>
so - discover not only their openid provider, but another provider (I'm being intentionally vague here bcause i don't want to rathole on the other endpoint type right now)
- [20:05:29] <_keturn>
I wish I could refer you to j3h for this, but he's hiding. anyway. Part of the confusion is that there's at least three distinct interfaces you can build to. But I think I would start by looking at openid.consumer.discover.OpenIDServiceEndpoint.fromBasicServiceEndpoint and replicating that.
- [20:08:59] <_keturn>
it may be worth noting that I'm pretty sure this xrd interface only facilitates discovering things inside of Service elements. If you're trying to look for metadata in any of those newfangled XRD-level elements, our api might break down.
- [20:25:58] <CGamesPlay>
Could someone with a postgresql testbed please apply http://cgamesplay.com/cryptos/alt1.patch and let me know how the tests fare?
- [20:41:54] <PibbRelay>
<cygnus> CGamesPlay: I applied it and tried it. a couple of things: Auth/OpenID/DatabaseConnection.php isn't getting loaded by the tests, so the MDB2 connection class can't be found, and the 'print' statements when tests don't get run ("Warning: ...") should not have the word "warning" in them, because that makes our automated builder think there's something wrong.
- [20:42:47] <PibbRelay>
<cygnus> also, the MDB2 database connection class doesn't implement setFetchMode() expected by SQLStore
- [20:43:02] <CGamesPlay>
cygnus: You should note that the current test cases print 'Warning'
- [20:43:29] <PibbRelay>
<cygnus> (due to that and the business with PEAR statement placeholders, I don't think making the MDB2-based stores descend from the PEAR-based ones makes sense.)
- [20:43:40] <PibbRelay>
<cygnus> then they most not be getting skipped by the automated builder
- [20:46:51] <PibbRelay>
<cygnus> one other note, which is that if you're going to implement escaping/parsing logic (as in Auth_OpenID_MDB2DatabaseConnection::query()) then it's extremely important to write exhaustive tests for that code.
- [20:47:43] <CGamesPlay>
I'm going to try a different approach...
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- [21:01:40] <tomtomkiss>
moi je kiff mon aqua
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- [21:56:36] <CGamesPlay>
_keturn: hey, did you do anything with http://trac.openidenabled.com/trac/ticket/130 ?
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- [22:04:49] <hydester>
hi. can openid be used instead of LDAP? i just care about authentication, not permissions. i am considering openid for our intranet, but was hoping i can somehow integrate that with linux shell accounts
- [22:17:07] <hydester>
ah, i found it. http://www.openid-ldap.org
- [22:18:09] <CGamesPlay>
well, that won't let you sign into a shell using your oepnid
- [22:18:36] <CGamesPlay>
that will allow you to log into http://id.company.int/~username using your ldap account
- [22:21:21] <hydester>
oh
- [22:23:15] <hydester>
so it is just an adapter from LDAP to OpenID?
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