IRC Log for #openid on 2008-04-29
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- [02:48:49] <wycats_>
I'm looking for the original XML versions of the OID specs
- [03:49:45] <tjohns>
Are you sure you don't mean the BML versions? I don't remember there being an XML version.
- [03:50:19] <tjohns>
Oh, wait, nevermind, now I remember, it's in SVN
- [03:52:15] <tjohns>
http://svn.openid.net/repos/specifications/authentication/1.1/trunk/openid-authentication-1_1.xml
- [03:52:27] <tjohns>
http://svn.openid.net/repos/specifications/authentication/2.0/trunk/openid-authentication.xml
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- [04:48:21] <wycats_>
tjohns: I'm going to try and convert them to pdf via xml2pdfrfc
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- [04:58:07] <wycats_>
tjohns: xml2rfc is getting mad because some lines are bigger than 72 chars
- [05:00:02] <tjohns>
That's strange. I wasn't aware there was a limit on the number of columns in an XML file.
- [05:00:40] <tjohns>
Though, if that's the problem, it shouldn't be too hard to run it through a script that adds line breaks
- [05:01:33] <tjohns>
Some of the URLs in are longer than 72 chars though, so I have no clue what will happen to those.
- [05:21:05] <wycats_>
it seems to be a limitation with rfc2pdf
- [05:21:14] <wycats_>
tjohns: do you know of any other way to convert to PDF?
- [05:38:46] <tjohns>
I've had good results with Prince before
- [05:38:55] <tjohns>
http://www.princexml.com/
- [05:39:12] <tjohns>
There's a free version for personal use.
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- [19:12:34] <darren-b>
hi
- [19:26:51] <wycats_>
tjohns: is there a good stylesheet for RFCs?
- [19:27:24] <tjohns>
Well, there's the one that's used on openid.net when the XML sepcs get converted to HTML
- [19:28:15] <tjohns>
But if you want something that looks good on print (or that doesn't require use of XSLT to convert from XML to HTML), you'll need to tweak it.
- [19:28:36] <wycats_>
there must be something out there to convert XML=>PDF
- [19:28:42] <wycats_>
since all the RFCs are available in PDF
- [19:29:08] <tjohns>
Ya, I'm sure there is.
- [19:29:20] <wycats_>
an exhaustive search has not turned anything up
- [19:29:42] <darren-b>
text/plain
- [19:30:33] <darren-b>
does anyone here have an opinion on LID? I'm trying to identify if there's any support for it out there or if it's generally considered a dinosaur.
- [19:30:49] <darren-b>
the have some interesting service definitions
- [19:31:15] <tjohns>
wycats_: Ah, here's something that might work...
- [19:31:38] <tjohns>
http://www.rfc-editor.org/formatting.html mentions that there's a RFC to LaTeX converter
- [19:31:45] <tjohns>
That would get you a PDF
- [19:32:23] <tjohns>
Then again, that might be a LaTeX to RFC converter....3
- [19:32:51] <wycats_>
yep
- [19:32:53] <wycats_>
it is :(
- [19:33:55] <wycats_>
http://tools.ietf.org//inventory/author-tools
- [19:34:01] <wycats_>
xml2pdfrfc totally fails
- [19:37:28] <tjohns>
I think the reason why there isn't a good converter is because the "primary" version of an RFC is the ASCII text version, and the Postscript/PDF/HTML copies are just produced to make them look nicer.
- [19:37:49] <tjohns>
And since looking nicer could means converting ASCII art to image files
- [19:38:07] <tjohns>
In many cases there'd still be a lot of manual work involved.
- [19:38:46] <tjohns>
Not that helps. Just me thinking out loud. :/
- [19:41:58] <tjohns>
I think the easiest solution would be to run Prince on the HTML version of the spec. I just tested, and it actually comes out pretty nice.
- [19:42:15] <tjohns>
I'd say just tweak the margins a bit, add a couple page breaks, and it would look pretty nice.
- [19:45:41] <tjohns>
http://tjohns.net/files/openid/auth20_test.pdf is what it looks like without any tweaking.
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- [19:49:54] <wycats_>
I really just want to be able to print the spec
- [19:50:08] <wycats_>
I'll probably add something to remove the <TOC>
- [19:50:24] <wycats_>
and the annoying HR
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- [20:44:16] <nathanpbell>
Are there a set of environment requirements for the janrain openid libraries to work? I can get it to work on one of our servers but not the other.
- [20:44:40] <nathanpbell>
We're using the unmodified consumer examples included with the library
- [20:44:48] <nathanpbell>
(PHP, sorry)
- [20:46:08] <nathanpbell>
When trying to authenticate a Yadis enabled OP (Yahoo) it fails immediately. Delegated OpenIDs (HTML discovery) make it through the OP redirect, but when we finally wind up on the RP to verify, we get a "server denied check_authenticiation" error
- [20:52:09] <nathanpbell>
WIth Yahoo OpenIDs the error that returns immediately is "Authentication error; not a valid OpenID"
- [21:06:52] <Chaz6>
So MyOpenId are probably going to offer site affiliations for custom domains, but it won't be free :-(
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- [21:12:06] <donomo>
i love the anonymous openid providers. they drive home the point that a url doesnt mean much by itself.
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- [21:31:53] <donomo>
im interested to see what sort of extra auth RPs will start asking for, but im afraid the answer will be to whilelist the providers they take.
- [21:32:20] <Chaz6>
Yeah :/
- [21:32:29] <Chaz6>
Quite a paradox
- [21:33:56] <Chaz6>
I conjecture that with more RP's there will be more sites using captchas upon login not just for registration
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- [23:08:25] <nathanpbell>
FYI (for the logs): The first part of the problem was that the server did not have an SSL cert bundle installed so CURL's HTTPS connections were failing silently.
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