IRC Log for #openid on 2008-05-02
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- [11:38:56] <mikejw>
is anyone here familiar with the PHP standalone server?
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TedThibodeauJr is a Technology Evangelist from http://www.openlinksw.com/ and a Troublemaker from Way Back
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- [14:52:26] <bamnet>
I'm trying to convert a PHP appliction to use OpenID for authentication. It currently uses the phpCAS library to handle all the authentication stuff. Is there an easy way to go about this conversion?
- [14:53:13] <conner_bw>
http://openidenabled.com/php-openid/
- [14:53:23] <conner_bw>
Are you looking to make it multi-user?
- [14:54:24] <conner_bw>
This is pretty simple... http://siege.org/projects/phpMyID/
- [14:54:42] <bamnet>
Yes, it definately needs to support multiple users.. let me open that link
- [14:54:47] <conner_bw>
I'm working on a forked version here: http://sux0r.cvs.sourceforge.net/sux0r/sux0r2/includes/suxOpenID.php?view=markup
- [14:54:54] <conner_bw>
but it's not done.
- [14:55:22] <bamnet>
Now is that to host identies or to verify them?
- [14:55:36] <conner_bw>
Also, this is openid 1.1, not 2.0
- [14:55:41] <conner_bw>
This is to be a server...
- [14:56:47] <bamnet>
I think I'm trying to be the client, or relay, whatever its called. I'd like to authenticate people against whatever identity they provide. Right now I'm a client in the CAS network (I send them off to the central server) and I'm looking to do the same with OpenID if possible
- [14:57:28] <conner_bw>
Ok, well have a look at : http://openidenabled.com/php-openid/
- [14:57:36] <conner_bw>
download that, and look at the examples
- [14:57:43] <conner_bw>
it's probably the most supported PHP class
- [14:58:12] <conner_bw>
being a consumer (client) is a lot easier than being a server
- [14:58:19] <bamnet>
thats very reassuring!
- [14:58:23] <conner_bw>
Haha
- [14:59:51] <bamnet>
I started with that but got confused... I currently call 5 phpCAS functions checkAuthentication, forceAuthenticaton, isAuthenticated, getUser, and logout. In an ideal situation I would just be changing the function names to OpenID equivalents... is that possible?
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- [15:35:39] <hacim>
i'm trying to figure out how to debug an openID problem with a website. I put in my openid account, and submit it. it brings me to my openid broker where I have to login. Once i login I normally am presented with a page where I can approve the authentication with the server that I am trying to login to
- [15:35:59] <hacim>
but in this case, I am not presented with that trust decision page (what is this page called?)
- [15:36:06] <hacim>
how can I go about debugging this?
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- [15:44:45] <hacim>
could it be that my openid is https?
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- [16:26:25] <dazjorz>
Hey
- [16:27:04] <dazjorz>
I upgraded my blog to use OpenID 2 a while ago (instead of 1) - (though it's a while ago, so I don't really remember the details, if I say something stupid here, please correct me)
- [16:28:03] <dazjorz>
However, it seems I don't get any sreg arguments anymore
- [16:28:19] <dazjorz>
I'm using the JanRain libraries and I've got this line:
- [16:28:25] <dazjorz>
$authreq->addExtensionArg("sreg", "optional", "nickname,email");
- [16:28:30] <dazjorz>
but I don't get the nickname, anymore
- [16:28:44] <dazjorz>
am I doing anything wrong?
- [16:33:03] <dazjorz>
When I get to the OpenID verification page, I am not asked to give my persona...
- [16:33:49] <dazjorz>
so does anybody have any working PHP code that works with OpenID 2.0 (JanRains library) and sreg arguments?
- [16:40:45] <hacim>
how can you tell if you are using openid 1.1 or 2?
- [16:42:44] <dazjorz>
got it, I thhink
- [16:42:49] <dazjorz>
hacim: by the library you use?
- [16:43:01] <dazjorz>
I installed version 2.0.1 of the JanRain library
- [16:43:10] <dazjorz>
so I figured I was using openid2, too
- [16:43:34] <dazjorz>
Yay, it works :)
- [16:44:08] <hacim>
dazjorz: well I dont have access to my ID provider's library versions :)
- [16:47:54] <dazjorz>
w00t, it works :-)
- [16:47:59] <dazjorz>
hacim: I am my provider :-)
- [16:48:08] <dazjorz>
hacim: But if you want to know yours, I guess it's in the source in /usr/share/php
- [16:49:35] <hacim>
dazjorz: the source?
- [16:50:33] <dazjorz>
hacim: of the OpenID module
- [16:50:58] <dazjorz>
/usr/share/php/Auth/OpenID.php
- [16:52:48] <hacim>
dazjorz: you dont understand, I do NOT have access to my ID provider's server
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- [16:53:17] <dazjorz>
hacim: You can't even read it?
- [16:53:22] <dazjorz>
hacim: That's odd, how can you use them, then?
- [16:53:32] <dazjorz>
Oh... Right
- [16:53:38] <dazjorz>
You're talking about the *provider*
- [16:54:41] * hacim hands dazjorz a prize!
- [16:54:50] <dazjorz>
:P
- [16:54:54] <dazjorz>
heehee, sorry
- [16:55:01] <hacim>
dazjorz: i do think that there must be a way to find this out externally
- [16:55:42] <dazjorz>
Yeah, but I don't know any OpenID details, so I can't really help you on that
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- [18:11:35] <Jencha>
hello :)
- [18:12:04] <Jencha>
can someone look at the openid sequence diagram at http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/the_openid_sequence_diagram
- [18:12:31] <Jencha>
step 10 "The OpenId authentication endpoint finally sends a response back with a session cookie, giving access to various resources.."
- [18:12:49] <Jencha>
Shouldn't there be a different http response than 401, which is unauthorized?
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- [19:22:10] <zellyn>
Hi folks - question: if you're not using https for both endpoints, Attribute Exchange and Simple Registration data are sent in the clear, right?
- [19:23:10] <zellyn>
In my case, it is infeasible to give all RPs SSL certs, so only the OP will have a cert.
- [19:24:03] <zellyn>
Would it make sense to do the login via normal http redirects/javascripted form submissions, and then get extra attributes using AX over a separate direct connection from RP to OP over https?
- [19:26:21] <zellyn>
The problem is, the spec says direct communication is used only for associate and check_authentication: "It is used for establishing associations (Establishing Associations) and verifying authentication assertions (Verifying Directly with the OpenID Provider)." (http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#direct_comm)
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- [19:36:15] <jaraco>
I'm trying to update TGOpenIdLogin, which was originally written against openid 1.x, to use 2.x. Is there any documentation that covers specifically the API changes from 1.x to 2.x?
- [19:38:00] <jaraco>
I guess I'm asking specifically about python-openid.
- [19:39:58] <zellyn>
@jaraco, so you mean not this: http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#anchor34
- [19:41:10] <jaraco>
zellyn: Right. I'm not particularly interested in the underlying protocol changes as I am in the API changes necessary to use the 2.x libraries.
- [19:42:24] <zellyn>
Aah. Afraid I can't help you there, although I am increasingly familiar with the python-openid libs.
- [19:42:39] <zellyn>
Mostly OP-side so far, but moving into RP territory.
- [19:42:51] <zellyn>
I've only used the 2.x.x series, though.
- [19:43:40] <jaraco>
Okay. I'll keep working through it. I suspect the changes are modest.
- [19:43:52] <jaraco>
(based on what I've been able to accomplish so far)
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TedThibodeauJr is a Technology Evangelist from http://www.openlinksw.com/ and a Troublemaker from Way Back
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