IRC Log for #openid on 2008-05-02

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  39. [11:38:56] <mikejw> is anyone here familiar with the PHP standalone server?
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  49. [13:09:53] <jibot> TedThibodeauJr is a Technology Evangelist from http://www.openlinksw.com/ and a Troublemaker from Way Back
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  57. [14:52:26] <bamnet> I'm trying to convert a PHP appliction to use OpenID for authentication. It currently uses the phpCAS library to handle all the authentication stuff. Is there an easy way to go about this conversion?
  58. [14:53:13] <conner_bw> http://openidenabled.com/php-openid/
  59. [14:53:23] <conner_bw> Are you looking to make it multi-user?
  60. [14:54:24] <conner_bw> This is pretty simple... http://siege.org/projects/phpMyID/
  61. [14:54:42] <bamnet> Yes, it definately needs to support multiple users.. let me open that link
  62. [14:54:47] <conner_bw> I'm working on a forked version here: http://sux0r.cvs.sourceforge.net/sux0r/sux0r2/includes/suxOpenID.php?view=markup
  63. [14:54:54] <conner_bw> but it's not done.
  64. [14:55:22] <bamnet> Now is that to host identies or to verify them?
  65. [14:55:36] <conner_bw> Also, this is openid 1.1, not 2.0
  66. [14:55:41] <conner_bw> This is to be a server...
  67. [14:56:47] <bamnet> I think I'm trying to be the client, or relay, whatever its called. I'd like to authenticate people against whatever identity they provide. Right now I'm a client in the CAS network (I send them off to the central server) and I'm looking to do the same with OpenID if possible
  68. [14:57:28] <conner_bw> Ok, well have a look at : http://openidenabled.com/php-openid/
  69. [14:57:36] <conner_bw> download that, and look at the examples
  70. [14:57:43] <conner_bw> it's probably the most supported PHP class
  71. [14:58:12] <conner_bw> being a consumer (client) is a lot easier than being a server
  72. [14:58:19] <bamnet> thats very reassuring!
  73. [14:58:23] <conner_bw> Haha
  74. [14:59:51] <bamnet> I started with that but got confused... I currently call 5 phpCAS functions checkAuthentication, forceAuthenticaton, isAuthenticated, getUser, and logout. In an ideal situation I would just be changing the function names to OpenID equivalents... is that possible?
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  81. [15:35:39] <hacim> i'm trying to figure out how to debug an openID problem with a website. I put in my openid account, and submit it. it brings me to my openid broker where I have to login. Once i login I normally am presented with a page where I can approve the authentication with the server that I am trying to login to
  82. [15:35:59] <hacim> but in this case, I am not presented with that trust decision page (what is this page called?)
  83. [15:36:06] <hacim> how can I go about debugging this?
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  85. [15:44:45] <hacim> could it be that my openid is https?
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  92. [16:26:25] <dazjorz> Hey
  93. [16:27:04] <dazjorz> I upgraded my blog to use OpenID 2 a while ago (instead of 1) - (though it's a while ago, so I don't really remember the details, if I say something stupid here, please correct me)
  94. [16:28:03] <dazjorz> However, it seems I don't get any sreg arguments anymore
  95. [16:28:19] <dazjorz> I'm using the JanRain libraries and I've got this line:
  96. [16:28:25] <dazjorz> $authreq->addExtensionArg("sreg", "optional", "nickname,email");
  97. [16:28:30] <dazjorz> but I don't get the nickname, anymore
  98. [16:28:44] <dazjorz> am I doing anything wrong?
  99. [16:33:03] <dazjorz> When I get to the OpenID verification page, I am not asked to give my persona...
  100. [16:33:49] <dazjorz> so does anybody have any working PHP code that works with OpenID 2.0 (JanRains library) and sreg arguments?
  101. [16:40:45] <hacim> how can you tell if you are using openid 1.1 or 2?
  102. [16:42:44] <dazjorz> got it, I thhink
  103. [16:42:49] <dazjorz> hacim: by the library you use?
  104. [16:43:01] <dazjorz> I installed version 2.0.1 of the JanRain library
  105. [16:43:10] <dazjorz> so I figured I was using openid2, too
  106. [16:43:34] <dazjorz> Yay, it works :)
  107. [16:44:08] <hacim> dazjorz: well I dont have access to my ID provider's library versions :)
  108. [16:47:54] <dazjorz> w00t, it works :-)
  109. [16:47:59] <dazjorz> hacim: I am my provider :-)
  110. [16:48:08] <dazjorz> hacim: But if you want to know yours, I guess it's in the source in /usr/share/php
  111. [16:49:35] <hacim> dazjorz: the source?
  112. [16:50:33] <dazjorz> hacim: of the OpenID module
  113. [16:50:58] <dazjorz> /usr/share/php/Auth/OpenID.php
  114. [16:52:48] <hacim> dazjorz: you dont understand, I do NOT have access to my ID provider's server
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  116. [16:53:17] <dazjorz> hacim: You can't even read it?
  117. [16:53:22] <dazjorz> hacim: That's odd, how can you use them, then?
  118. [16:53:32] <dazjorz> Oh... Right
  119. [16:53:38] <dazjorz> You're talking about the *provider*
  120. [16:54:41] * hacim hands dazjorz a prize!
  121. [16:54:50] <dazjorz> :P
  122. [16:54:54] <dazjorz> heehee, sorry
  123. [16:55:01] <hacim> dazjorz: i do think that there must be a way to find this out externally
  124. [16:55:42] <dazjorz> Yeah, but I don't know any OpenID details, so I can't really help you on that
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  130. [18:11:35] <Jencha> hello :)
  131. [18:12:04] <Jencha> can someone look at the openid sequence diagram at http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/the_openid_sequence_diagram
  132. [18:12:31] <Jencha> step 10 "The OpenId authentication endpoint finally sends a response back with a session cookie, giving access to various resources.."
  133. [18:12:49] <Jencha> Shouldn't there be a different http response than 401, which is unauthorized?
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  146. [19:22:10] <zellyn> Hi folks - question: if you're not using https for both endpoints, Attribute Exchange and Simple Registration data are sent in the clear, right?
  147. [19:23:10] <zellyn> In my case, it is infeasible to give all RPs SSL certs, so only the OP will have a cert.
  148. [19:24:03] <zellyn> Would it make sense to do the login via normal http redirects/javascripted form submissions, and then get extra attributes using AX over a separate direct connection from RP to OP over https?
  149. [19:26:21] <zellyn> The problem is, the spec says direct communication is used only for associate and check_authentication: "It is used for establishing associations (Establishing Associations) and verifying authentication assertions (Verifying Directly with the OpenID Provider)." (http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#direct_comm)
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  151. [19:36:15] <jaraco> I'm trying to update TGOpenIdLogin, which was originally written against openid 1.x, to use 2.x. Is there any documentation that covers specifically the API changes from 1.x to 2.x?
  152. [19:38:00] <jaraco> I guess I'm asking specifically about python-openid.
  153. [19:39:58] <zellyn> @jaraco, so you mean not this: http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#anchor34
  154. [19:41:10] <jaraco> zellyn: Right. I'm not particularly interested in the underlying protocol changes as I am in the API changes necessary to use the 2.x libraries.
  155. [19:42:24] <zellyn> Aah. Afraid I can't help you there, although I am increasingly familiar with the python-openid libs.
  156. [19:42:39] <zellyn> Mostly OP-side so far, but moving into RP territory.
  157. [19:42:51] <zellyn> I've only used the 2.x.x series, though.
  158. [19:43:40] <jaraco> Okay. I'll keep working through it. I suspect the changes are modest.
  159. [19:43:52] <jaraco> (based on what I've been able to accomplish so far)
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  176. [22:24:33] <jibot> TedThibodeauJr is a Technology Evangelist from http://www.openlinksw.com/ and a Troublemaker from Way Back
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