IRC Log for #openid on 2008-05-28
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- [04:40:01] <flaccid>
i would like to highlight. it was hard enough (and still is) getting people to do web standards/valid code. same problem exists with openid RP adoption unfortunately. the =< average developers letting us down..
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- [09:42:45] <flaccid>
ok. another one. the security problem is password/account access retrieval. without human intervention/assistance, how can credentials be given back to the customer securely enough (equiv to a bank on the phone)?
- [09:43:20] <flaccid>
essentially ot transfers the identity theft from online to offline
- [09:43:27] <flaccid>
has this problem ever been solved?
- [09:43:46] <flaccid>
ot=it
- [09:44:14] <Chaz6>
For my online banking i use a combination of chip and pin and a token reader.. When I enter my pin into the reader, it generates a one time code, similar to RSA keys
- [09:45:18] <Chaz6>
It still doesn't stop a MitM attack
- [09:45:52] <Chaz6>
However, in order to transfer money, i have to enter a code from the website onto the reader, and certain digits match up with the account number
- [09:46:42] <flaccid>
and for password retrieval?
- [09:46:54] <Chaz6>
There is no retrieval
- [09:46:58] <Chaz6>
A new password has to be set
- [09:47:06] <flaccid>
and how is that done
- [09:47:15] <Chaz6>
I contact my bank
- [09:47:16] <flaccid>
was using pr as a term..
- [09:47:24] <flaccid>
and verify so many personal details right?
- [09:47:28] <Chaz6>
Yes
- [09:48:00] <Chaz6>
I don't have much choice since my bank has no agreement with any others in this country, so phone/fax is my only method of contact
- [09:48:13] <flaccid>
so the 2 things can't really avoid are identity theft getting the password reset and MitM
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- [10:23:23] <flaccid>
http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/05/17/the-openid-mobile-experience-part-ii/ hmm the sms verification
- [10:27:55] <flaccid>
i guess i should be looking at OAuth
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metadaddy is Pat Patterson - http://blogs.sun.com/superpat/ - federation architect at http://www.sun.com/identity/ and Sun's 'community guy' on http://opensso.dev.java.net/
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hey metadaddy how are ya?
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keturn is Kevin Turner
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- [16:06:36] <metadaddy>
Hi flaccid - doing well, but was in another IRC channel
- [16:07:29] <metadaddy>
That jibot thing is a bit of a pain, to be honest
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metadaddy is Pat Patterson - http://blogs.sun.com/superpat/ - federation architect at http://www.sun.com/identity/ and Sun's 'community guy' on http://opensso.dev.java.net/
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- [20:21:21] <jibot>
metadaddy is Pat Patterson - http://blogs.sun.com/superpat/ - federation architect at http://www.sun.com/identity/ and Sun's 'community guy' on http://opensso.dev.java.net/
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