IRC Log for #openid on 2008-05-28

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  10. [04:40:01] <flaccid> i would like to highlight. it was hard enough (and still is) getting people to do web standards/valid code. same problem exists with openid RP adoption unfortunately. the =< average developers letting us down..
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  41. [09:42:45] <flaccid> ok. another one. the security problem is password/account access retrieval. without human intervention/assistance, how can credentials be given back to the customer securely enough (equiv to a bank on the phone)?
  42. [09:43:20] <flaccid> essentially ot transfers the identity theft from online to offline
  43. [09:43:27] <flaccid> has this problem ever been solved?
  44. [09:43:46] <flaccid> ot=it
  45. [09:44:14] <Chaz6> For my online banking i use a combination of chip and pin and a token reader.. When I enter my pin into the reader, it generates a one time code, similar to RSA keys
  46. [09:45:18] <Chaz6> It still doesn't stop a MitM attack
  47. [09:45:52] <Chaz6> However, in order to transfer money, i have to enter a code from the website onto the reader, and certain digits match up with the account number
  48. [09:46:42] <flaccid> and for password retrieval?
  49. [09:46:54] <Chaz6> There is no retrieval
  50. [09:46:58] <Chaz6> A new password has to be set
  51. [09:47:06] <flaccid> and how is that done
  52. [09:47:15] <Chaz6> I contact my bank
  53. [09:47:16] <flaccid> was using pr as a term..
  54. [09:47:24] <flaccid> and verify so many personal details right?
  55. [09:47:28] <Chaz6> Yes
  56. [09:48:00] <Chaz6> I don't have much choice since my bank has no agreement with any others in this country, so phone/fax is my only method of contact
  57. [09:48:13] <flaccid> so the 2 things can't really avoid are identity theft getting the password reset and MitM
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  59. [10:23:23] <flaccid> http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/05/17/the-openid-mobile-experience-part-ii/ hmm the sms verification
  60. [10:27:55] <flaccid> i guess i should be looking at OAuth
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  101. [14:59:30] <jibot> metadaddy is Pat Patterson - http://blogs.sun.com/superpat/ - federation architect at http://www.sun.com/identity/ and Sun's 'community guy' on http://opensso.dev.java.net/
  102. [15:04:30] <flaccid> hey metadaddy how are ya?
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  104. [15:12:54] <jibot> keturn is Kevin Turner
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  118. [16:06:36] <metadaddy> Hi flaccid - doing well, but was in another IRC channel
  119. [16:07:29] <metadaddy> That jibot thing is a bit of a pain, to be honest
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  140. [18:35:19] <jibot> metadaddy is Pat Patterson - http://blogs.sun.com/superpat/ - federation architect at http://www.sun.com/identity/ and Sun's 'community guy' on http://opensso.dev.java.net/
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  149. [20:21:21] <jibot> metadaddy is Pat Patterson - http://blogs.sun.com/superpat/ - federation architect at http://www.sun.com/identity/ and Sun's 'community guy' on http://opensso.dev.java.net/
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