IRC Log for #openid on 2009-04-16

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  32. [07:46:56] * _fil_ tries to understand delegation
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  35. [08:14:24] <_fil_> why on earth does delegation need more info than login?
  36. [08:15:31] <_fil_> login: one url
  37. [08:15:40] <_fil_> delegation: three urls
  38. [08:15:45] <_fil_> makes no sense to me
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  45. [10:07:09] * _fil_ I don't understand delegation
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  53. [13:04:28] <ric> ?
  54. [13:04:32] <ric> anybody there?
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  62. [14:26:21] <dvheumen> hi, I'm wondering if OpenID (Foundation) is planning to extend it's reach from just identification/authentication to a trust platform? I have looked on the roadmap on the wiki (or I think it was a roadmap) but I couldn't find a clear answer.
  63. [14:45:19] <Getty> i wouldnt bet on it ;) even tho i have nothing todo with them
  64. [14:46:24] <dvheumen> Getty: thx :)
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  67. [14:59:40] <singpolyma> dvheumen: I'm pretty sure everything OpenID related has always been very clear that it's *not* about being a trust platform
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  72. [15:04:27] <_fil_> anyone can help with delegation?
  73. [15:05:16] <_fil_> on a laconi.ca platform users may add an openid to their profile, and use it to log in
  74. [15:05:19] <_fil_> so far so good
  75. [15:06:00] <_fil_> but I'd like to then use their laconi.ca/username page as a new openid url that delegates to the one they've given
  76. [15:06:27] <_fil_> and this doesn't work because delegation needs three uris, and i only get one from the user
  77. [15:06:42] <_fil_> am i missing something?
  78. [15:09:15] <singpolyma> You get those URLs when you do the OpenID authentication
  79. [15:09:41] <singpolyma> So you could capture them in the discovery step there, and then store all the URLs together in the DB
  80. [15:11:51] <Getty> singpolyma: i guess he ment more "in addition" cause of the "trusted power" that it involved so far, whatever will not happen ;) we know reality better lol
  81. [15:13:14] <Getty> singpolyma: probably you can give me a hint, i found tons of documentations about anything, can you give me a some more direction about the exact process how the Provider works? I want to be one (or actually political i must be one) and i wanna know what i do, but most documentation mostly covers integration of OpenID itself or just using OpenID
  82. [15:13:21] <_fil_> ah ok singpolyma i see
  83. [15:13:54] <_fil_> i still don't understand why we need three uris and not just one, but that will do
  84. [15:14:31] <singpolyma> Getty: if you know PHP the provider in wp-openid (the WordPress plugin) might be informative. Or phpMyID
  85. [15:15:13] <Getty> i know PHP, but actually i avoid it now successful sind 5 months, so i wanted to avoid THIS step
  86. [15:15:22] <Getty> sind=since
  87. [15:16:02] <singpolyma> _fil_: You need more than one URL because you must delegate directly to the OP, and not to any OpenID which may also be a delegated one... to prevent chaining delegations, etc, which is slow and unsafe
  88. [15:16:24] <singpolyma> Getty: Well, you don't have to do yours in PHP, but reading their code might help in understanding what's going on
  89. [15:16:46] <Getty> yeah i wouldnt do it in PHP for sure, i even dont need to code it at all cause i will use Net::OpenID::Server
  90. [15:16:56] <Getty> but that documentation doesnt cover the concept, it just gives the API
  91. [15:17:02] <Getty> and i love to know what i do
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