IRC Log for #openid on 2009-06-16

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  52. [12:56:52] <Ironhand> sorry if this is answered in a FAQ I missed somewhere; I recently started reading up on OpenID and am thinking of setting up my own identity provider (a simple one such as through phpMyID)
  53. [12:57:35] <Ironhand> however, before doing this I'm trying to figure some things out, such as: how would I actually tell for example the GMail login to use my OpenID identity provider?
  54. [12:58:12] <Ironhand> or is Google only playing identity provider but not actually allowing people to login to its system with externally created OpenID's?
  55. [12:58:14] <flaccid> Ironhand can you re-phrase your quesiton, i am having trouble understanding it
  56. [12:58:32] <Ironhand> ok in short: how do I log in to GMail with a non-GMail OpenID identity
  57. [12:58:43] <flaccid> yeah afaik google is not an RP
  58. [12:59:14] <Ironhand> ah ok, thanks (seems a bit lame on their part then but oh well)
  59. [13:00:22] <flaccid> Ironhand yeah the big players are not being true RPs yet
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  76. [15:21:16] <flaccid> i finally read http://notsorelevant.com/2009-06-08/facebook-is-a-relying-party-but/ . oh the big players only continue to dissapoint keturn
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  96. [18:30:53] <singpolyma> Has anyone here used checkid_immediate in practice?
  97. [18:31:38] <flaccid> sure singpolyma
  98. [18:32:07] <singpolyma> flaccid: How does it actually end up working? The spec is kinda high-level
  99. [18:32:42] <flaccid> sorry singpolyma its nearly 5am here i am sleeping right now
  100. [18:32:50] <singpolyma> flaccid: heh, ok
  101. [18:34:45] <flaccid> but the simple anser singpolyma yes servers that support immediate
  102. [18:34:54] <flaccid> if its implemented properly
  103. [18:35:34] <singpolyma> Well, I'm more looking for example code or a good explanation of how it works... cause I can't really figure out how to actually do it from the spec
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  105. [18:35:57] <flaccid> thats too bad
  106. [18:36:15] <flaccid> i'm sorry its AU here way too late for me, i've had about 30 drink
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  108. [19:06:53] <keturn> singpolyma: if you have an interface like the "always trust foo.com" or "don't ask this question again for foo.com", then if those sites later do checkid_immediate you can immediately respond with the id_res without showing the user any UI
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  110. [19:07:28] <keturn> (assuming also that the user-agent's session with you is still good and they don't have to re-authenticate)
  111. [19:07:39] <singpolyma> keturn: right, sorry, I meant as an RP
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  113. [19:12:19] <keturn> oh, right, of course
  114. [19:12:43] <flaccid> where you working now keturn ?
  115. [19:13:18] <keturn> I'm between jobs at the moment
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  117. [19:13:33] <flaccid> yeah same
  118. [19:15:48] <keturn> singpolyma: that's harder to summarize, I'm trying to figure out where a good demo is
  119. [19:18:41] <keturn> I think the typical approach is to have an iframe, kick off the check_immediate transaction in the iframe, and then if it's successful to use javascript to update the page so the user is logged in
  120. [19:19:23] <singpolyma> keturn: hmm, ok, that seems a rediculous hack, but is likely the only way
  121. [19:21:34] <keturn> writing applications in html/http seems to involve lots of ridiculous hacks
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  124. [19:31:30] <lupine_86> Can I publish my GPG key via OpenID?
  125. [19:31:49] <flaccid> lupine_86 not natively no
  126. [19:32:00] <lupine_86> :(
  127. [19:32:10] <flaccid> you can host it however you want but
  128. [19:32:19] <flaccid> gpg has nothing to do with OpenID
  129. [19:32:22] <lupine_86> still time to get it in for OpenID 3? ;)
  130. [19:32:46] <flaccid> like i said, it has nothing to do with OpenID auth
  131. [19:32:57] <lupine_86> eh, not for auth, just as a thing to pass around
  132. [19:33:04] <flaccid> no
  133. [19:33:05] <lupine_86> like name, email address, date of birth, etc
  134. [19:33:25] <flaccid> 05:33] <flaccid> gpg has nothing to do with OpenID
  135. [19:33:28] <lupine_86> (none of which have anything to do with openid except openid chose to make them its business)
  136. [19:33:49] <flaccid> if you want to share data with openid, please see AX
  137. [19:33:56] <flaccid> exactly.
  138. [19:34:00] <lupine_86> AX?
  139. [19:34:08] <flaccid> attribute exchange.
  140. [19:34:27] <lupine_86> ah, that's separate to openid?
  141. [19:34:39] <flaccid> no, its an extension
  142. [19:36:24] <lupine_86> rightyho
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  144. [20:14:58] <lupine_86> is thicke in ls
  145. [20:15:04] <lupine_86> whoops
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