IRC Log for #openid on 2009-06-20
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- [05:04:36] <jonathanzenor>
hey, anybody here? I have a real quick question then I need to get to bed
- [05:04:59] <jonathanzenor>
I'm setting up OpenID consumer on my website
- [05:05:15] <flaccid>
cool
- [05:05:28] <jonathanzenor>
I just need to know how to retrieved the proper openid_url that the user is submitting
- [05:05:35] <jonathanzenor>
not from the post
- [05:05:48] <jonathanzenor>
but after openid libraries do their thing to make them all lowercase and everything
- [05:06:03] <flaccid>
i'm not sure what you mean jonathanzenor
- [05:06:35] <jonathanzenor>
Currently I grab the $_POST['openid_url'] and (if they authenticate properly) I check that against my database
- [05:06:38] <jonathanzenor>
but I just ran into a problem
- [05:06:43] <jonathanzenor>
my database has http://www.zenorsoft.com
- [05:06:49] <jonathanzenor>
and I tried to login with www.zenorsoft.com
- [05:07:05] <jonathanzenor>
and they don't match, doesn't the openid libraries format all the links the same inside its code?
- [05:07:24] <jonathanzenor>
I just wanted to know if there is a way to get that url
- [05:07:32] <flaccid>
jonathanzenor i think you are referring to URL normalisation
- [05:07:47] <jonathanzenor>
yeah, that sounds like it might be it :)
- [05:07:56] <flaccid>
so it should convert www.zenorsoft.com to http://www.zenorsoft.com/
- [05:08:02] <jonathanzenor>
yes
- [05:08:05] <flaccid>
which software are you using ?
- [05:08:08] <jonathanzenor>
how do I do that?
- [05:08:09] <jonathanzenor>
php
- [05:08:15] <flaccid>
php what ?
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- [05:08:25] <jonathanzenor>
PHP OpenID Library
- [05:08:33] <jonathanzenor>
Version 1.2.3
- [05:08:33] <flaccid>
the janrain one ?
- [05:08:36] <jonathanzenor>
yes
- [05:08:53] <flaccid>
why are you using such and old version ?
- [05:09:16] <jonathanzenor>
http://openidenabled.com/ says that 1.2.3 is the ...
- [05:09:18] <jonathanzenor>
nevermind
- [05:09:22] <jonathanzenor>
I'm using the 2.1.3
- [05:09:43] <jonathanzenor>
just typed in the first line I saw, but I did download the newest 2.x release
- [05:09:50] <flaccid>
ok
- [05:10:01] <flaccid>
ok so the api is http://openidenabled.com/files/php-openid/docs/2.1.3/
- [05:11:01] <jonathanzenor>
yeah, I've checked there once, and looked through the consumer.php file, couldn't find what I was looking for
- [05:11:52] <flaccid>
i havnt looked at this implementation for a while. i'll probably have to look at the example/consumer or example/server to find how its done
- [05:12:07] <flaccid>
i have to have lunch now so i can look in about 20mins
- [05:12:46] <jonathanzenor>
it's already 11:15pm and I have to get up at 4 for work
- [05:12:54] <jonathanzenor>
could you email it to me? Or I could come back tomorrow
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- [05:16:51] <jonathanzenor>
my email is JonZenor@Gmail.com
- [05:17:08] <jonathanzenor>
I'll keep looking it up on my own tomorrow, but if you can help out that would be awesome! :)
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- [05:37:49] <flaccid>
meh
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- [06:20:23] <A4Tech>
Hey all. There are people who can help with OpenID in PHP?
- [06:22:27] <A4Tech>
I have this problem: from my OpenID provider returns only the nickname, although I designed the code so: $sreg_request = Auth_OpenID_SRegRequest::build(array( 'nickname', 'fullname', 'email'));
- [06:27:28] <flaccid>
you are using php-openid 2.x ?
- [06:27:56] <A4Tech>
yes
- [06:28:53] <flaccid>
well your code there does exactly what you said - returns only the nickname
- [06:29:01] <flaccid>
oh my bad
- [06:29:04] * flaccid slaps himself
- [06:29:40] <flaccid>
lets have a look and see if that is the right way to do it
- [06:30:32] <A4Tech>
http://paste.ubuntu.com/199822/ identify.php
- [06:31:12] <A4Tech>
http://paste.ubuntu.com/199823/ complete.php
- [06:32:15] <A4Tech>
http://paste.ubuntu.com/199824/ some function from my library
- [06:33:17] <A4Tech>
flaccid launchpad.net provider return identify url & nickname
- [06:33:31] <flaccid>
thats the provider ?
- [06:33:44] <flaccid>
well i know for a fact the implementation on LP is poor
- [06:33:45] <A4Tech>
flaccid but yandex (http://yandex.ru) return only identify url
- [06:34:09] <flaccid>
so you are requesting those three fields and its not returning them from LP ?
- [06:34:32] <A4Tech>
and from yandex too
- [06:35:04] <flaccid>
it only happens with these 2 sites ? the request works with others ?
- [06:35:05] <A4Tech>
From yandex do nothing except url returns
- [06:35:15] <flaccid>
you will need to complain to those providers i guess
- [06:35:43] <A4Tech>
on LP? :)
- [06:35:53] <flaccid>
just check that your request follows the openid spec ie. correctly done in the URI etc.
- [06:36:03] <A4Tech>
They have so much work :)
- [06:36:06] <flaccid>
yeah openid w/ LP has had problems since the start
- [06:36:33] <flaccid>
the people that run it should have enough competency do something about it
- [06:37:22] <A4Tech>
Now try a third provider, if it does not, it means that I have something wrong
- [06:38:02] <flaccid>
test with myopenid.com that would be your best bet
- [06:38:47] <A4Tech>
array(1) { ["identity"]=> string(28) "http://icd2.livejournal.com/" }
- [06:39:03] <A4Tech>
(livejournal.com)
- [06:39:26] <A4Tech>
array(1) { ["identity"]=> string(21) "http://rmpic30.ya.ru/" }
- [06:39:27] <flaccid>
A4Tech check that the request matches the spec http://openid.net/specs/openid-simple-registration-extension-1_0.html
- [06:40:01] <A4Tech>
and LP: array(2) { ["identity"]=> string(30) "https://launchpad.net/~rmpic30" ["nickname"]=> string(7) "rmpic30" }
- [06:40:38] <A4Tech>
flaccid ok, one sec
- [06:40:43] <flaccid>
A4Tech check it complies with http://openid.net/specs/openid-simple-registration-extension-1_0.html#anchor3 specifically..
- [06:41:57] <A4Tech>
http://paste.ubuntu.com/199827/ :)
- [06:43:03] <flaccid>
is that the request or the response ?
- [06:43:25] <flaccid>
take note of "All of the following request fields are OPTIONAL, though at least one of "openid.sreg.required" or "openid.sreg.optional" MUST be specified in the request."
- [06:43:29] <A4Tech>
response
- [06:43:38] <flaccid>
you should be checking the request first.
- [06:43:47] <A4Tech>
ok
- [06:44:56] <A4Tech>
http://paste.ubuntu.com/199829/
- [06:45:11] <A4Tech>
....openid.sreg.required=nickname%2Cfullname%2Cemail...
- [06:49:08] <A4Tech>
flaccid Any idea? :)
- [06:49:51] <flaccid>
the request looks fine to me
- [06:50:13] <flaccid>
so it looks like those two providers are failing to implement sreg correctly
- [06:50:29] <A4Tech>
3
- [06:50:32] <A4Tech>
LP too
- [06:50:49] <A4Tech>
Although it is at least my nickname back ...
- [06:51:02] <flaccid>
yeah so they only 'hardcoded' that support probably
- [06:51:13] <flaccid>
i've not been happy with LP and openid at all tbh
- [06:51:45] <A4Tech>
And Google is OpenID?
- [06:52:01] <flaccid>
i wouldn't call it that no
- [06:52:30] <A4Tech>
Maybe worth it to check?
- [06:52:39] <flaccid>
check what ?
- [06:53:08] <A4Tech>
google openid, if it is exist
- [06:53:16] <flaccid>
it doesnt
- [06:53:51] <flaccid>
it forked openid unfortunately
- [06:54:09] <A4Tech>
I have already look at the code of different engines, the module OpenID ...
- [06:54:10] <flaccid>
it is a provider but not a compliant one
- [06:54:26] <flaccid>
can i ask what you are trying to achieve ?
- [06:54:56] <A4Tech>
flaccid Make support for OpenID site:)
- [06:55:29] <flaccid>
what kind of support
- [06:55:46] <A4Tech>
login(register)
- [06:55:52] <flaccid>
so relying party support
- [06:56:13] <flaccid>
does your code work besides some providers not returning some sreg data ?
- [06:57:18] <A4Tech>
If they returned nickname then okay, but I have a bunch of identify + nickname
- [06:59:21] <flaccid>
your webapp relies upon sreg response ?
- [07:00:17] <A4Tech>
To a certain extent - yes.
- [07:01:08] <A4Tech>
I want to give users the convenience of using the site, therefore, began to make OpenID support
- [07:02:06] <flaccid>
thats not good
- [07:02:12] <A4Tech>
yes....
- [07:02:22] <flaccid>
sreg is an optional extension. you should do your logic in the same manner
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- [07:02:50] <A4Tech>
oh.. ok
- [07:03:40] <flaccid>
and also complain to providers that fail to support it properly. it is optional entirely but is a key feature to openid
- [07:04:01] <A4Tech>
okey
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- [07:04:15] <flaccid>
however you should support attribute exchange as well which is going to be used more than sreg
- [07:04:31] <flaccid>
http://openid.net/specs/openid-attribute-exchange-1_0.html
- [07:05:13] <A4Tech>
Maybe try the library is 1.x.x?
- [07:07:38] <flaccid>
huh
- [07:07:50] <flaccid>
use the latest php-openid 2
- [07:08:09] <A4Tech>
ok
- [07:09:25] <A4Tech>
I already read the specifications here http://openidenabled.com/files/php-openid/docs/2.1.3/ .. :)
- [07:11:46] <flaccid>
yeah. best of luck then!
- [07:12:16] <A4Tech>
thx :)
- [07:12:27] <flaccid>
wow i just tested out using google as my identity and my identity URL is https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawmdhBuy4Ji6aenuwIhWjPHUS_fxMAVQPaU
- [07:12:49] <flaccid>
man google needs a big slap in the face
- [07:12:57] <A4Tech>
gg
- [07:20:18] <flaccid>
also microsoft is full of it. I goto https://login.live-int.com/beta/ManageOpenID.srf and it does not allow me to login. what a load of (*&(*&
- [07:21:15] <flaccid>
A4Tech this could be useful for your testing https://test-id.org/OP/Sreg.aspx
- [07:21:28] <A4Tech>
thx!
- [07:22:43] <flaccid>
np
- [07:25:34] <A4Tech>
https://test-id.org/OP/Sreg.aspx This site is the same, only the LP returned nickname
- [07:27:08] <A4Tech>
Okay, I will change the code that would only identity was
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- [07:34:55] <flaccid>
A4Tech one thing we have both not thought about is the fact that the provider needs to actually have this information
- [07:35:34] <flaccid>
if the provider has no where on their site for the user to fill in this info then obviously its not going to return it from an sreg request
- [07:36:17] <A4Tech>
nickname for sure is:)
- [07:38:46] <flaccid>
yeah so just complain to the relevant providers to make them properly support sreg and ax i guess
- [07:40:23] <A4Tech>
flaccid I think my only one vote will not listen)
- [07:46:01] <flaccid>
did you raise a bug ?
- [07:48:17] <A4Tech>
вщтеэе лтщц
- [07:48:31] <A4Tech>
oh, => don't know...
- [07:57:28] <flaccid>
create a bug report and see what happens
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- [09:40:00] <A4Tech>
flaccid http://paste.ubuntu.com/199934/ :)
- [09:41:23] <A4Tech>
flaccid Solved the problem so that provaeryayu that your ISP is not enough, then ask the user to enter his hands:) and then continue the registration
- [09:41:45] <A4Tech>
provaeryayu == the check
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- [09:59:55] <flaccid>
A4Tech still don't understand your statement. whats an ISP got to do with openid heh
- [10:02:23] <flaccid>
and what the heck is ["identity"]=> string(40) "aHR0cHM6Ly9sYXVuY2hwYWQubmV0L35ybXBpYzMw"
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- [11:14:26] <BUGabundo>
hi
- [11:14:40] <flaccid>
howdy
- [11:14:44] <BUGabundo>
I was testing my openid on http://openidenabled.com/resources/openid-test/diagnose-server
- [11:14:54] <BUGabundo>
I used an https url but it changes it to http
- [11:14:57] <BUGabundo>
why is that?
- [11:15:14] <BUGabundo>
hi flaccid
- [11:15:37] <flaccid>
thats probably how the example is designed
- [11:15:50] <flaccid>
we can look up https in the spec but to what the go is with it
- [11:15:55] <BUGabundo>
see http://openidenabled.com/resources/openid-test/diagnose-server/start?openid_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpasswordless.appspot.com%2Femail%2Fopenidtest20062009%40spam.la
- [11:17:09] <BUGabundo>
http://openidenabled.com/resources/openid-test/diagnose-server/TestCheckidSetup/?action=response&attempt=1&nonce=xJW7iB3O&openid.assoc_handle={HMAC-SHA1}{4a3cc55f}{7kaHbw%3D%3D}&openid.identity=http%3A%2F%2Fpasswordless.appspot.com%2Femail%2Fopenidtest20062009%40spam.la&openid.mode=id_res&openid.op_endpoint=http%3A%2F%2Fpasswordless.appspot.com%2Flogin%2F&openid.response_nonce=2009-06-20T11%3A18%3A33ZEM5QOT&openid.return_to=http%3A%2F%2Fopenid
- [11:17:24] <BUGabundo>
Redirecting to http://passwordless.appspot.com/email/openidtest20062009%40spam.la?openid.assoc_handle=%7BHMAC-SHA1%7D%7B4a3cc55f%7D%7B7kaHbw%3D%3D%7D&openid.identity=http%3A%2F%2Fpasswordless.appspot.com%2Femail%2Fopenidtest20062009%40spam.la&openid.mode=checkid_setup&openid.return_to=http%3A%2F%2Fopenidenabled.com%2Fresources%2Fopenid-test%2Fdiagnose-server%2FTestCheckidSetup%2F%3Faction%3Dresponse%26attempt%3D1%26nonce%3DxJW7iB3O&openid.tru
- [11:17:36] <flaccid>
BUGabundo http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#anchor45
- [11:17:45] <BUGabundo>
openid.identityhttp://passwordless.appspot.com/email/openidtest20062009@spam.la
- [11:18:00] * BUGabundo reads
- [11:18:24] <BUGabundo>
" URL differing only be scheme is to setup a redirect from the HTTP URL to the HTTPS URL. Relying Parties will never store the HTTP URL as during the discovery and initiation phase will follow the redirect and use the HTTPS URL as the Claimed Identifier. "
- [11:18:29] <BUGabundo>
thanks so much flaccid
- [11:18:44] <BUGabundo>
one more question, if you allow me the spam :)
- [11:18:51] <flaccid>
sure
- [11:19:16] <BUGabundo>
[ot] btw so you guys know about it https://passwordless.appspot.com
- [11:19:24] <BUGabundo>
openid via email ehe
- [11:19:42] <BUGabundo>
now the 2nd Q: having trouble with openid on twitterfeed.com
- [11:20:00] <BUGabundo>
it uses RPX
- [11:20:17] <flaccid>
sidenote BUGabundo checkout http://eaut.org/
- [11:20:24] * BUGabundo checks
- [11:20:36] <BUGabundo>
thanks
- [11:20:47] <BUGabundo>
will give that back to the author
- [11:20:48] <flaccid>
whats the problem with it
- [11:21:42] <BUGabundo>
let me get a trace
- [11:23:07] <BUGabundo>
grr
- [11:23:10] <BUGabundo>
now I only get
- [11:23:13] <BUGabundo>
"Bad response from OpenID server"
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- [11:25:08] <BUGabundo>
flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/199985/
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- [11:27:29] <BUGabundo>
flaccid: any idea for it ?
- [11:27:36] <flaccid>
what spits that out exactly ?
- [11:29:00] <flaccid>
looks like the RP does which is that passwordless thing right?
- [11:29:14] <BUGabundo>
the email from passwordless, after trying to login on twitterfeed.com
- [11:30:31] <flaccid>
considering rpx is well tested and i can login fine with normal openid i assume that the passwordless people have a problem
- [11:30:55] <flaccid>
however the key is that it says 'Untrusted Return URL'
- [11:31:18] <BUGabundo>
humm thanks
- [11:31:24] <BUGabundo>
will point that out to the dev
- [11:31:33] <flaccid>
its coughing in provider.py and server.py so i assume they run a provider in the middle to do the 'proxying'
- [11:32:10] <flaccid>
the last line in that is the key
- [11:32:16] <flaccid>
"UntrustedReturnURL: return_to u'https://signin.twitterfeed.com/openid/finish?immediate=false&popup_mode=false&token_url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitterfeed.com%2Frpx' not under trust_root u'http://twitterfeed.com/auth'"
- [11:32:53] <flaccid>
what that means and why it is doing it i don't know off my head, someone here might but
- [11:34:58] <flaccid>
it could have something to do with http://wiki2008.openid.net/OpenIDChanges#trust_root_Renamed_to_realm but i am really not sure
- [11:35:14] <flaccid>
see trust_root is only in openid 1.0
- [11:37:06] <flaccid>
yes here is the problem http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#verify_return_to
- [11:38:08] <flaccid>
i think those passwordless people have failed to comply to this spec which is fairly important security wise too
- [11:38:33] <flaccid>
actually i'll retract that
- [11:38:37] <BUGabundo>
I've emailed jneves! he will take care of it soon
- [11:38:48] <flaccid>
the URL noted is twitterfeeds
- [11:39:18] <BUGabundo>
now trying something funny: using passwordless with emailtoid
- [11:39:19] <BUGabundo>
lol
- [11:39:40] <BUGabundo>
now I should be able to login to twitterfeeds with emailtoid
- [11:39:44] <flaccid>
that URL is likely not retained by passwordless and thus the error. so yeah i could be right that it is passwordless which explains why other logins work.
- [11:41:48] * BUGabundo wonders if RPX supports emailtoid !
- [11:43:12] <flaccid>
dunno its made by vidoop it seems
- [11:44:25] <flaccid>
chris messina is all over it
- [11:44:26] <flaccid>
http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/06/22/announcing-emailtoid-mapping-email-addresses-to-openids/
- [11:44:41] <flaccid>
yeah i remember this thing now but never had a need to use it
- [11:45:16] <flaccid>
will be nice when http://eaut.org/ gets ratified to address this
- [11:46:03] <flaccid>
probably doesn't require any ratification just for the spec to become final
- [11:46:20] <BUGabundo>
bbl
- [11:46:25] <BUGabundo>
thanks for the help
- [11:47:16] <flaccid>
np
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- [15:22:57] <jonathanzenor>
Hello everyone
- [15:25:20] <jonathanzenor>
What causes this error? error:Invalid AuthRequest: 769: Realm verification failed for: http://www.iptvwiki.com/wiki/
- [15:25:53] <flaccid>
an invalid auth request failing to verify the realm
- [15:26:22] <jonathanzenor>
lol, thanks :p
- [15:26:33] <jonathanzenor>
trying to install the mediawiki openID extension
- [15:27:18] <flaccid>
ah k
- [15:27:52] <jonathanzenor>
everythign seemed to work but I keep getting that error every time I try to login
- [15:28:07] <flaccid>
iptvwiki was the RP or is that your wiki ?
- [15:28:22] <jonathanzenor>
that is my wiki
- [15:28:50] <flaccid>
i'll check it out but its likely this http://groups.google.com/group/openid4java/browse_thread/thread/ccd874fee1c0720c?pli=1
- [15:29:00] <jonathanzenor>
trying to login with blogger, it gives the error, when I try to login with my main openid account it just returns a failed status
- [15:29:27] <flaccid>
so thats your wiki and the RP right ?
- [15:29:49] <jonathanzenor>
the wiki is the consumer
- [15:30:22] <flaccid>
consumer is a deprecated term in openid world. they are termed as relying parties now
- [15:30:38] <jonathanzenor>
ah, k
- [15:30:40] <jonathanzenor>
yes
- [15:31:03] <flaccid>
ah yes this is the same problem that BUGabundo came in with earlier today
- [15:31:25] <flaccid>
jonathanzenor please see http://wiki2008.openid.net/OpenIDChanges#trust_root_Renamed_to_realm and http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#verify_return_to
- [15:31:51] <flaccid>
maybe this mediawiki plugin only supports openid 1 or something
- [15:32:12] <jonathanzenor>
it says it requires 2.0.1 or greater
- [15:32:14] <qwp0>
jonathanzenor: you haven't probably set the wgTrustRoot setting
- [15:32:38] <jonathanzenor>
I think I did
- [15:33:18] <jonathanzenor>
$wgTrustRoot = "http://www.iptvwiki.com/wiki/";
- [15:33:23] <qwp0>
uhm
- [15:34:01] <qwp0>
try to change it to 'http://iptvwiki.com/w/';
- [15:34:18] <flaccid>
return_to u'http://iptvwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:OpenIDFinish&janrain_nonce=2009-06-20T15%3A35%3A25Z6a50Lo&openid1_claimed_id=http%3A%2F%2Fchris.xhost.com.au%2F' not under trust_root u'http://www.iptvwiki.com/wiki/'
- [15:34:43] <flaccid>
the trust roots match up
- [15:35:14] <qwp0>
jonathanzenor: it works for me with myopenid now
- [15:35:48] <flaccid>
oh yes
- [15:35:54] <jonathanzenor>
ah
- [15:35:58] <flaccid>
why does your wiki use /w/ and /wiki/
- [15:36:05] <flaccid>
i didn't notice the URL change in the address bar..
- [15:36:27] <jonathanzenor>
or is an alias for /w
- [15:36:39] <jonathanzenor>
/wiki/ is a virtual directory that points to /w/
- [15:36:43] <flaccid>
where does this /w come from
- [15:36:57] <jonathanzenor>
/w is the actual directory
- [15:37:07] <jonathanzenor>
IRC doesn't like it when I start a line with / :P
- [15:37:09] <flaccid>
right well your login with openid link points to /w/
- [15:37:10] <qwp0>
flaccid: w is a real dir, the wiki directory is usually handled by mod_rewrite
- [15:37:21] <jonathanzenor>
yes
- [15:37:23] <flaccid>
jonathanzenor some clients you can escape / by //
- [15:37:43] <jonathanzenor>
it works, so I'm happy, now to get this to work on my own website lol
- [15:37:46] <flaccid>
yeah i have 3 mediawiki instances personally
- [15:38:05] <flaccid>
i don't do that redundant practice fortunately
- [15:38:53] <jonathanzenor>
yeah, I have 3 as well, only have OpenID on one, but I'm trying to create a new sit ethat is all about OpenID
- [15:39:16] <jonathanzenor>
want to make a dedicated delegate website
- [15:39:48] <qwp0>
jonathanzenor: and don't forget to update your database according to the plugin's documentation
- [15:39:50] <jonathanzenor>
just for me and my friends mostly, to manage all of our OpenID's and just use my address to login to whichever I have set as primary at the time
- [15:39:55] <qwp0>
I saw a database error there
- [15:40:30] <flaccid>
jonathanzenor whats a dedicated delgate website ? you just want to give people a URL to own that they can delegate to their chosen provider ?
- [15:40:44] <jonathanzenor>
yup
- [15:41:07] <flaccid>
just remember if you shutdown you shut all your users down as well
- [15:41:45] <jonathanzenor>
don't plan on shutting down, I've had my server for 3+ years so far, just have to pay for a new domain name is all
- [15:42:39] <flaccid>
yeah just remember if you go into business providing this for anyone, smart users will know that you will own them which is why an OP is more attractive
- [15:44:13] <jonathanzenor>
yeah, I know, not trying to make money from it, using it for myself and if anyone wants to use it as well they can
- [15:44:35] <flaccid>
cools
- [15:45:18] <jonathanzenor>
some people don't have their own site to make their own delegation address
- [15:46:28] <jonathanzenor>
that was my thinking behind this site
- [15:46:47] <jonathanzenor>
and, I wanted a project that I could start from scratch to learn how to use PHP the OOP way :)
- [15:46:49] <flaccid>
yeah but i like to look at openid identities as a long term thing and unfortunately normal users are not aware of how it works
- [15:47:09] <flaccid>
jonathanzenor ah if thats the case use cakephp or code ignitor
- [15:48:11] <flaccid>
i wrote and OP and RP in cakephp with the php-openid 2.x libs
- [15:48:20] <jonathanzenor>
cool
- [15:52:52] <flaccid>
jonathanzenor an ot sidenote for you in regards to iptv. in australia here we will be getting 100mbps fibre to the home in something like 5 years
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- [15:53:11] <flaccid>
which means we will actually be able to watch iptv
- [15:53:24] <jonathanzenor>
nice
- [15:53:41] <flaccid>
no doubt i'll then be using your wiki then
- [15:53:45] <jonathanzenor>
i've canceled my cable tv and just watch tv online now :)
- [15:53:54] <jonathanzenor>
lol, cool
- [15:53:58] <flaccid>
sweet
- [15:54:00] <jonathanzenor>
it was down for a while, my host messed it up
- [15:54:08] <flaccid>
dangle
- [15:54:31] <flaccid>
i got rid of my dedicated and am now in amazon ec2 which is quite economical and performs
- [15:55:05] <jonathanzenor>
yeah I am in the process of moving back to my old host, 1&1
- [15:56:42] <flaccid>
cool
- [15:58:49] <jonathanzenor>
hey, anybody know how to run php from the command line?
- [15:58:58] <jonathanzenor>
trying to update the wiki db
- [16:00:21] <jonathanzenor>
nevermind, figured it out
- [16:00:31] <flaccid>
hehe php -v haha
- [16:00:56] <jonathanzenor>
lol
- [16:01:04] <jonathanzenor>
I had to use php5 instead of php
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- [16:02:14] <flaccid>
what os is that
- [16:02:47] <jonathanzenor>
don't know, some linux distro
- [16:02:55] <jonathanzenor>
the server has php 4 and php 5 installed
- [16:03:07] <jonathanzenor>
you have to specify that you want to use 5
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- [16:04:52] <flaccid>
ah understood. they probably do 1 as the apache mod and 1 as cgi
- [16:05:02] <flaccid>
on the web side of things
- [16:05:14] <jonathanzenor>
woot! http://iptvwiki.com is now OpenID enabled!
- [16:05:40] <flaccid>
add your site to the openid directory
- [16:06:14] <jonathanzenor>
now I just need to get a logo for the site :p
- [16:06:35] <flaccid>
sweet as
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- [16:24:09] <jonathanzenor>
i can't wait until the phpBB3 openid mod is finished
- [16:24:24] <jonathanzenor>
i hate creating accounts on a forum just for one post I want to make :p
- [16:24:45] <flaccid>
well like anything awesome uptake is the problem
- [16:24:54] <flaccid>
that really annoys me
- [16:25:01] <flaccid>
e.g. SPF
- [16:25:53] <qwp0>
jonathanzenor: I hate creating an account just for one bug report I want to make
- [16:26:12] <qwp0>
IMHO all bug tracking tools should support OpenID
- [16:26:23] <jonathanzenor>
yeah
- [16:27:16] <qwp0>
people say OpenID is for geeks, why the hell isn't it supported on all sites for geeks (including bugzillas) out there then?
- [16:27:50] <flaccid>
because geeks don't know crap about what they do
- [16:28:03] <flaccid>
in my experience most 'geeks' don't know didley squat
- [16:28:08] <jonathanzenor>
lol
- [16:28:14] <jonathanzenor>
I want geek.com to support it :p
- [16:28:55] <jonathanzenor>
I use too many emoticons ... :-/
- [16:32:52] <jonathanzenor>
Even yahoo has their openID url under a title that says "Feeling geeky?"
- [16:34:27] <flaccid>
yeah thats just rude
- [16:37:38] <qwp0>
nah, seriously, bug trackers are IMO the field where massive adoption of OpenID would make sense
- [16:38:10] <qwp0>
but there is no official plugin for bugzilla, IIRC, what is an utter fail
- [16:38:37] <jonathanzenor>
just looked it up, no OpenID for my bug tracker either
- [16:38:51] <flaccid>
yeah and the openid support on LP is poor
- [16:40:05] <jonathanzenor>
I got exited when I heard that Google and Yahoo are going to support it..
- [16:40:13] <jonathanzenor>
just to be let down to hear they are only providers
- [16:40:25] <jonathanzenor>
shows how much of a geek I am, getting excited over a new piece of tech :p
- [16:41:20] <qwp0>
jonathanzenor: facebook isn't a RP either, is it?
- [16:41:37] <jonathanzenor>
no
- [16:41:51] <jonathanzenor>
they are not even a provider yet...
- [16:42:11] <jonathanzenor>
they have been working on their own facebook login thing
- [16:42:19] <qwp0>
jonathanzenor: well, you can link your account with an OpenID, AFAIK
- [16:42:34] <jonathanzenor>
AFAIK?
- [16:42:48] <qwp0>
as far as I know
- [16:43:34] <jonathanzenor>
any idea where?
- [16:43:48] <jonathanzenor>
ohhhhh
- [16:43:50] <jonathanzenor>
i found it!
- [16:44:17] <flaccid>
FB has some RP support that needs to be manually enabled
- [16:44:17] <qwp0>
I don't use FB myself but it should be under settings -> Linked Accounts or something similar
- [16:44:28] <jonathanzenor>
yup
- [16:44:30] <jonathanzenor>
just enabled it
- [16:44:52] <flaccid>
rather pointless isn't it
- [16:45:18] <jonathanzenor>
so...
- [16:45:26] <jonathanzenor>
you can't "login" with an openid account...
- [16:45:28] <jonathanzenor>
but
- [16:45:38] <jonathanzenor>
if you are logged in to your provider, then facebook auto logs you in
- [16:45:55] <qwp0>
you must register to be able to log in with your OpenID which is pretty stupid
- [16:45:57] <flaccid>
yeah thats about all it does i guess
- [16:46:08] <jonathanzenor>
eh...
- [16:46:16] <jonathanzenor>
I'll give them a C for effort :)
- [16:46:20] <qwp0>
:)
- [16:46:26] <flaccid>
i'll give them an F for fail
- [16:47:15] <jonathanzenor>
LOL
- [16:47:59] <jonathanzenor>
I'd say a site with no OpenID is F, those that are providers only a D...
- [16:49:53] <flaccid>
yeah a d for dissapointment
- [16:50:00] <jonathanzenor>
eexactly
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Hello, I am playing a bit with JanRain's OpenID library in PHP, and so far I seem to have a server that is more or less working: http://alexandre.alapetite.fr/id/
- [20:55:53] <Alkarex>
But now, I am trying to get that to work with Facebook and their checkid_immediate mode. Anybody has succeeded in doing that?
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