IRC Log for #openid on 2009-10-12

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  30. [15:13:24] <emilsedgh> hi. it has been a few days that im trying to make things work on my webapp. i cannot fetch sreg data from server. im using janrain's openid-php and even its own example is not fetching sreg info. anyone has any idea?
  31. [15:15:04] <samsm> Did you confirm that you are in fact requesting sreg data? (you see it in the forwarding query string?)
  32. [15:15:30] <samsm> Or the OP behaves like it was requested?
  33. [15:16:18] <emilsedgh> i should look in querystring of the redirected page to server?
  34. [15:17:27] <emilsedgh> http://pastebin.ca/1615580
  35. [15:18:34] <samsm> Yahoo doesn't support sreg
  36. [15:18:41] <samsm> Or does it?
  37. [15:19:16] <emilsedgh> eh, really? maybe thats it. i read about that nowhere. how about google? i tried it too
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  39. [15:19:40] <samsm> I'm not sure. I thought they don't support OpenID 1 which I thought generally meant attribute exchange rather than sreg.
  40. [15:20:05] <samsm> But I don't really know. MyOpenID definitely supports both.
  41. [15:21:47] <emilsedgh> ah, i was counting on getting email address from openid, too bad thats optional
  42. [15:22:34] <emilsedgh> and, is there any place where i can get openid urls from? tired of searching for 'my google openid url' :p
  43. [15:22:46] <samsm> What do you mean?
  44. [15:23:23] <emilsedgh> well, now i want to try logging in using my google account. i cant find the url
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  46. [15:23:58] <samsm> https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id
  47. [15:24:58] <emilsedgh> thanks
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  51. [15:53:17] <emilsedgh> hm, so according to specification, if yahoo is not giving me back required sreg data, the authentication should not be completed. "will prevent the Consumer from completing the registration without End User interation." its almost unspecified what exactly should happen. now my authentication to yahoo just works but i sent email address as a required field to it
  52. [15:54:34] <samsm> My understanding was that the registration data is a bonus that the OP can just ignore.
  53. [15:55:05] <emilsedgh> well, then what is 'required' and 'optional' thingy if its...well, optional
  54. [15:55:06] <samsm> There are certainly providers that just ignore it and simply verify the identity url.
  55. [15:55:20] <samsm> It is confusing.
  56. [15:55:48] <samsm> It means required as in for your application, the user will need to enter that information one way or the other.
  57. [15:55:50] <emilsedgh> aah, so provider should consider paying attention to optional and required stuff?
  58. [15:56:41] <emilsedgh> thanks samsm
  59. [15:57:07] <emilsedgh> do you know any other provider which you know provides sreg? i cannot use myopenid due to countries restrictions
  60. [15:57:11] <samsm> So say email is required and nickname is optional. That means if my provider does not send email data, I (the user) will have to enter that data myself.
  61. [15:57:26] <samsm> nickname I could just leave blank and it won't matter.
  62. [15:57:34] <emilsedgh> aha
  63. [15:57:49] <samsm> The provider can use that information however it wants.
  64. [15:58:06] <samsm> Or however it feels best serves the user.
  65. [16:00:36] <samsm> And the email, full name, etc, aren't guaranteed to be verified.
  66. [16:01:02] <samsm> Though they might be for some providers.
  67. [16:05:01] <emilsedgh> ok, something must be wrong. im getting nothing from myopenid too :/
  68. [16:11:12] <samsm> Here's what I end up sending http://samsm.com/whatever/skitch/HTTP_Request_Detail-20091012-121121.png
  69. [16:12:15] <emilsedgh> thanks samsm. i appreciate your help
  70. [16:23:27] <emilsedgh> hm, yeah, im definitely sending sreg info
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