IRC Log for #openid on 2009-12-03

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  23. [08:54:12] <daedeloth> OpenID authentication failed: Nonce already used or out of range
  24. [08:54:29] <daedeloth> are the nonce's stored forever?
  25. [08:55:07] <yangman> nounces expire
  26. [08:55:31] <yangman> they're designed to expire rather quickly, actually
  27. [08:55:37] <Brend> "The time-stamp MAY be used to reject responses that are too far away from the current time, limiting the amount of time that nonces must be stored to prevent attacks. The acceptable range is out of the scope of this specification. A larger range requires storing more nonces for a longer time. A shorter range increases the chance that clock-skew and transaction time will cause a spurious rejection. "
  28. [08:56:00] <daedeloth> could it be that my openid server is offering nonces that already have been used?
  29. [08:56:12] <daedeloth> I'm guessing my server has removed the tmp folder
  30. [08:56:17] <daedeloth> *server guys
  31. [08:57:32] <yangman> janrain's openid libraries, right? pretty sure it has checks to not generate tokens already in use
  32. [08:57:43] <daedeloth> yep, janrain
  33. [08:58:15] <daedeloth> but my server guys removed the tmp folder in my openid server, so it can't check if a nonce has been used or not
  34. [08:58:45] <daedeloth> is there something I can do to make it generate orhter nonces?
  35. [08:58:52] <daedeloth> like, a prefix or something?
  36. [08:59:16] <daedeloth> it's kindof urgent, got a lot of people waiting for a fix ;)
  37. [08:59:59] <yangman> is the error OP side or consumer side?
  38. [09:00:07] <daedeloth> consumer
  39. [09:00:57] <daedeloth> if I change Auth_OpenID_Nonce_TIME_FMT, it should generate other nonces, right?
  40. [09:01:12] <yangman> IIRC, any given nounce is only valid for a single authentication session. it's not something meant to be stored long term
  41. [09:01:24] <yangman> so it will be a new one every time you try authenticating
  42. [09:01:35] <yangman> might be a rather large clock mismatch?
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  44. [09:05:08] <daedeloth> great: http://id.browser-based-games.org/time.php
  45. [09:07:24] <yangman> it's the UTC time that matters
  46. [09:07:55] <yangman> that error message would be a lot more useful if it told you which of the failure case it is ;)
  47. [09:08:20] <daedeloth> it's gmdate
  48. [09:08:30] <daedeloth> so that's GMT
  49. [09:09:01] <yangman> well, in that case, there's your problem
  50. [09:13:51] <daedeloth> hm, fixed.
  51. [09:14:03] <daedeloth> 4 hours of bloody down time due to a wrong clock... i hate server guys.
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  75. [11:53:24] * Topic is 'http://openid.net | Got OpenID library questions? Check stackoverflow.com.'
  76. [11:53:24] * Set by yangman on Wed Oct 28 18:53:18 CET 2009
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  113. [18:11:17] <daedeloth> what datatype should I use to store an openid url in mysql?
  114. [18:17:07] <singpolyma> daedeloth: CHAR(255) *should* work, but TEXT is more sure (in case some OP uses way-too-long URIs ... I've never seen that, though)
  115. [18:17:24] <daedeloth> I'd like to have a key on it
  116. [18:17:27] <daedeloth> primary key
  117. [18:17:34] <daedeloth> so I'm using varchar255 atm
  118. [18:17:46] <singpolyma> sure
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