IRC Log for #openid on 2010-01-07

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  55. [18:46:22] <gast129> hi, what information is stored on a site with openid access? only the url like myname.provider.net?
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  68. [21:14:24] <flaccid> gast129: potentially none at all
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  73. [21:49:13] <gast129> how is then my profile connected to me?
  74. [21:50:14] <karstensrage> userid/password
  75. [21:50:26] <karstensrage> same as everywhere else
  76. [21:50:53] <gast129> uid/pwd isst stored by the provider i think
  77. [21:51:19] <karstensrage> oh right...
  78. [21:51:27] <karstensrage> sorry i thought you were talking about the provider
  79. [21:51:57] <flaccid> well tehnically, an OP only needs to know the openid identity, and depends how you define 'store'
  80. [21:52:42] <flaccid> the RP has no idea of the password, if one exists or how the OP verified the user
  81. [21:54:31] <gast129> but when only the url is used an some sells e.g. .openid.net the new owner can log in to all sites of the users? (btw whats RP exact?)
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  84. [22:02:25] <flaccid> gast129: i don't understand that question at all. RP = relying party
  85. [22:05:57] <karstensrage> flaccid, bad guy at OP can login as user
  86. [22:07:26] <flaccid> karstensrage: thats nothing new, the OP like any website has control over its users
  87. [22:08:02] <karstensrage> flaccid, i know.. i was just translating for gast129
  88. [22:08:12] <flaccid> oh my bad sorry
  89. [22:08:24] <karstensrage> np :)
  90. [22:08:24] <flaccid> this convo is a bit confusing and just woke up :)
  91. [22:08:48] * karstensrage DCC's flaccid an espresso
  92. [22:09:13] <flaccid> hehe thanks. i was just about to go and get one i.e. flat white
  93. [22:09:45] <karstensrage> gast129, typically you talk about 3 attack vectors
  94. [22:10:07] <karstensrage> #2 motivated insider and #3 well-funded government you dont worry too much about
  95. [22:10:35] <karstensrage> they are not interested in you specifically
  96. [22:10:36] <gast129> not only openid provider but also if i delegate it to my small personal homepage, when i change my homepageprovider anyone else can get my id
  97. [22:11:42] <flaccid> gast129: thats not true. its up to you if you want to use someone else's domain then loose it. you can register your own domain and own the whole thing. there is also something in the openid spec that address the re-use of identifiers via fragments
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  99. [22:17:12] <gast129> hm, ill search the specs for this, tnx
  100. [22:19:12] <flaccid> i don't think many providers go to the extent of doing this identifier recycling but. that is of course a support issue however
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