IRC Log for #openid on 2010-01-07
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- [18:46:22] <gast129>
hi, what information is stored on a site with openid access? only the url like myname.provider.net?
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- [21:14:24] <flaccid>
gast129: potentially none at all
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- [21:49:13] <gast129>
how is then my profile connected to me?
- [21:50:14] <karstensrage>
userid/password
- [21:50:26] <karstensrage>
same as everywhere else
- [21:50:53] <gast129>
uid/pwd isst stored by the provider i think
- [21:51:19] <karstensrage>
oh right...
- [21:51:27] <karstensrage>
sorry i thought you were talking about the provider
- [21:51:57] <flaccid>
well tehnically, an OP only needs to know the openid identity, and depends how you define 'store'
- [21:52:42] <flaccid>
the RP has no idea of the password, if one exists or how the OP verified the user
- [21:54:31] <gast129>
but when only the url is used an some sells e.g. .openid.net the new owner can log in to all sites of the users? (btw whats RP exact?)
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- [22:02:25] <flaccid>
gast129: i don't understand that question at all. RP = relying party
- [22:05:57] <karstensrage>
flaccid, bad guy at OP can login as user
- [22:07:26] <flaccid>
karstensrage: thats nothing new, the OP like any website has control over its users
- [22:08:02] <karstensrage>
flaccid, i know.. i was just translating for gast129
- [22:08:12] <flaccid>
oh my bad sorry
- [22:08:24] <karstensrage>
np :)
- [22:08:24] <flaccid>
this convo is a bit confusing and just woke up :)
- [22:08:48] * karstensrage DCC's flaccid an espresso
- [22:09:13] <flaccid>
hehe thanks. i was just about to go and get one i.e. flat white
- [22:09:45] <karstensrage>
gast129, typically you talk about 3 attack vectors
- [22:10:07] <karstensrage>
#2 motivated insider and #3 well-funded government you dont worry too much about
- [22:10:35] <karstensrage>
they are not interested in you specifically
- [22:10:36] <gast129>
not only openid provider but also if i delegate it to my small personal homepage, when i change my homepageprovider anyone else can get my id
- [22:11:42] <flaccid>
gast129: thats not true. its up to you if you want to use someone else's domain then loose it. you can register your own domain and own the whole thing. there is also something in the openid spec that address the re-use of identifiers via fragments
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- [22:17:12] <gast129>
hm, ill search the specs for this, tnx
- [22:19:12] <flaccid>
i don't think many providers go to the extent of doing this identifier recycling but. that is of course a support issue however
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